she was in guana at the time that really the evacuation orders were going out, according to the "l.a. times she was at embassy cocktail party literally at the time that the palisades area got the evacuation orders to come. >> brian: pictures have emerged proving that, griff. it's no longer antidotal pictures out there. >> lawrence: she promised when she ran that she wasn't going to do out of lawrence. >> steve: she wasn't going to leave the country. >> lawrence: she obviously didn't do that also, i think it's interesting that kamala harris, when things were happening in florida, she wanted to insert herself. even though ron desantis was talking to the president, she wanted to insert herself in the conflict. now she is from california. and now that she is not running for president, she is doing zero to help these people. >> brian: i know. >> lawrence: she is not on the ground. this could be a leadership moment for her. >> brian: no one blames her. one of those things everything plus, kamala harris is here today. malibu today. oh she is at this fire. she is at the firehouse. wow, isn't that i

owner. >> the change is, scott jennings, -- >> the l.a. times at a voice like that. >> what you said there is no evidence that jeff bezos had anything to do with killing the cartoon. >> as of now, the editor said it is all on me and an issue of repetition and we had a lot of these statements but not necessarily a cartoon like that. >> my answer to your question will be , is a courageous to draw a cartoon that makes the same point that is of other people are only making in the same kinds of spaces? i mean, how courageous is it? >> it does not happen everyday. >> that you make points that other people made? >> i try not to. but the state of reason for killing the cartoon was this was repetitive to what everyone else is already saying and come up with better content is what i'm hearing. what is courageous about just doing what everyone else is doing when the point has been made? >> why not just run it on a different day and the form is so different, the art room of cartooning versus an editorial. >> i want to raise is because it is part of the conv

i want to put up the front page of the "l.a. timesrage today, obviously all of the fire aspect of the fire like a thousand fires is the headline. it is something. we have been covering it nonstop for the few days it's been going on. what is it like covering it from your perspective and being there in l.a., the owner of this pa paper. >> very proud of our team and our effort, # 4/7 quite living roomily every level of the newsroom to photo journalists to the livestream studio he is this is exactly why local newspapers are needed to really inform and give hope to the local community. >> there is this balance of covering the strategy and what is happening in helping people get information. and also, dealing with the story that's really going to bubble up, and that's the anger about how things have been handled, how are you balancing that in the paper? >> well, i think today we saw wrote in newsletter, we pointed out exactly what the poor planning, the poor judgment of a budget cut as i have tweeted tweeted something we didn't expect. and

the l.a. times the fire was moving so quickly that police started yelling for people icto abandon their cars d telling residents to run for your lives. the l.a. times is also reporting firefighters could be heard telling dispatchers over the radio that as many as 100 abandoned vehicles are blocking the road. you can see right here that authorities had to use a bulldozer to move the

but you brought up the owner of the l.a. times. let me play what he had to say about the endorsement of the mayor, karen bass. >> will accept some blame. right. so at the l.a. times, we endorsed karen bass. um, i think right now in front, that's a mistake. and we admit that. but maybe we should think about how we elect people, um, on the basis of did they actually run a job? did they actually make a payroll? do they understand what it is? and rather than having professional politicians whose only job is really to run for for office, i mean, not not not great. >> well, not for nothing, but i guess the, the era of, you know, newspaper owners kind of staying out of the business of what the newspaper is doing on the editorial side are over, is over. >> yeah, those days are over. i think. i think what's happening in california is a natural disaster. it's a tragedy. and i do think we people ran to politicize it in the first 24 hours. and that's unfortunate, because the reality is, is that democrats and republicans homes are burning. and

the l.a. times the fire was moving so quickly that police started yelling for people icto abandon their cars d telling residents to run for your lives. the l.a. times is also reporting firefighters could be heard telling dispatchers over the radio that as many as 100 abandoned vehicles are blocking the road. you can see right here that authorities had to use a bulldozer to move the parked cars out of the way in order to let the firefighters through. right t now there are no report of injuries or deaths, but orseveral structures have been destroyed, and the fire is continuing to grow. joining me now is chase kane. i know you're right in the middle of harm's way here. can you give us what the situation is like this hour? >> reporter: alex, the scene you were x,just describing where people were abandoning their cars in the middle of the road, that's sunset boulevard behind me. there's not a lot to see because they've turned off power. that road you're looking at is sunset boulevard and on lthe horizon

l.a. area, and he said basically this is going to take a really long time. aid don't expect for all these housing starts in l.a. to be popping up in six months. obviously, still a very fluid situation but this is going to take a really long time to rebuild. so that comes on top of that orders which you said were up 41% but again the big comments were about i think how long it's going to take. fortunately what he said his company, his employees given they are based in westwood, are not yet affected by the fires. stuart: thank you, taylor. we're in the final days of the biden administration. one question lingers who is leading the democrats? >> between next monday, and 2028, whose the leader of the democrat party? >> oh, my goodness, wow. 2028? that is honestly, that is for people much smarter than i to make that assessment. stuart: oh, right now, they ap to be rudderless. as preside biden made his final foreign policy address he claims he's leaving america in a stronger position. >> my administration is leaving the next administration with a very strong hand t

the l.a. times has an interesting story.cific palisades is a reservoir called the santa inez reservoir and apparently it was off-line because the cover was being repaired. 117 million gallon reservoir that according to the officials the l.a. times said could be helpful to relieve pressure problems they were experiencing. it might not have saved the day but certainly could have helped but the big reservoir 117 million gallons was apparently off-line when the fire blew up. >> that would be a problem. we're seeing a chopper take to the air right there. that's the opponent. the winds have died down enough for aircraft to go up and drop water on these fires. this is the archer fire they are trying to put out now. the evacuation orders had to be put in place immediately because there are highly populated residential neighborhoods right there as you can see in some of the live shots they have to get and tackle this as soon as possible. you are only talking a few acres but from watching the other fires you know you can go from a few

there are local outlets like the l.a. times and the local tv stations in l.a. that are doing heroic work, trying to get accurate information out. >> it is striking what a double edged sword this is. sarah, because to brian's point, you go on x or and you know any of these sites and you do have to kind of sift through all of this stuff, all of the negative stuff. brian, you were just outlining to find the actual good information and people right now need information. they need help. they need to know what to do next. and so it is such a double edged sword. the other thing that has been so interesting to watch play out in real time. sarah, i'm on instagram. i went to school at usc in los angeles. it is a place i love so much. i have a lot of people i love who live there, who have been affected by this and and some i haven't talked to in a while, you know, friends of friends kind of thing that you went to school with. we have been able to connect with people and send donations. that is how people are getting help right now is like friends of friends of friends and

"l.a. times" retracted its endorsement of the mayor of los angeles. welcome to reality.hink this is a conversation a lot of americans are going to be having and demand of congress, real safeguards and real accountability when we send out disaster relief. this is -- we are going to look at this honestly and not political. we have to do the right thing for the people when we'll get back to you all soon. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2025] captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org. >> house democratic leadership also spoke about the california wildfires and speaker johnson's comments about putting conditions on aid to the state. members commented on the transgender athlete bill that passed the u.s. house.

. >> the owner of the "l.a. times," the "l.a. " historically a left leaning newspaper wrote on x last night fires in l.a. are sadly no surprise let the mayor led the l.a. fire department cut the l.a. fire department budget by $23 million. okay, so when we think if there are budget cuts, what do you think? okay. not as many trucks? no. it's across the board. they can't afford to hire enough mechanics, they have yards full of fire trucks and fire engines that cannot leave the field because they do not work. they need mechanics. it's start to finish. what have we heard from california? from this couch we heard about all the crazy super liberal policies over the last couple of decades and over the last couple of months since the election, what has california been doing? they have been trying to trump-proof california. do you know what? they should have fireproofed it. and what they should have done is should have planned for a really big fire because it happened this week. >> lawrence: focused on the dei recruitment videos that focus

and now, the owner of the l.a. times has some regrets. >> at the l.a. s, we endorsed karen bass. i think right now in front. that's a mistake. and we admit that. and it's an interesting thing, is that maybe we should think about how we elect people on the basis of did they actually run a job? did they actually make a payroll? do they understand what it is? and rather than having professional politicians whose only job is really to run for, for office, no one is defending california politicians. >> even the new york times says la's been crushed under the weight of inaction. they don't need cuddles. they need a leader. bass is in africa. newsom's dancing to the beat of his own drum and kamala is m.i.a. she just says, be patient, because that's what i'd like to hear if my house burned down, you know? wait, we'll get to you eventually. it's almost like the media is begging for a man of action. i wonder who could that be? michael shellenberger is the founder of public news. all right, so what are you hearing about what people are saying out there? mike, you'v

that being said, the l.a. timesporting that experts said that it probably wouldn't have made that big of a difference in totality, that this fire was just an exceptional, exceptionally powerful fire and that the winds were really helping it along, that there is no amount of fire. there were no fire crews that could have feasibly gotten this thing under control, given the conditions. and i think that's just a hard reality for folks to face. and they're going to want to want to have some more concrete answers. they're going to want to have somebody to blame for all of this. and they're going to ask very difficult and fair questions. and they already are. of the los angeles city government about the response, whether they were prepared, whether there was water, whether the municipal system needs to be upgraded and bolstered, given the world we now live in with climate change and these fires burning faster and hotter. and, you know, there used to be a fire season here in la, but there were in california. but it's all ye

but the l.a. times is reporting that there's an electrical transmission tower up in eaton canyon that is currently cordoned off. it's being investigated as a possible origin of the fire. now, socal edison has put out a statement. they put out a statement yesterday saying that they have checked all of their electrical equipment in eaton canyon, and that all of it was working correctly and that it could could not be the start of the fire. however, the l.a. times reporting that an electrical transmission tower up in eaton canyon is currently cordoned off, possibly the start. and the origin of that fire. back to you. >> all right, veronica miracle for us in altadena, california. veronica, thanks very much for that. and joining us now is los angeles county district attorney. nathan hochman, sir, thanks very much for being with us. next hour, you're expected to announce the first fire related charges, one in that arson case you said is not related to one of the major fires. what can you tell us about this so

it's just a very difficult moment for us. >> the l.a. times

. >> the l.a. timeseports that fire investigators are focusing on a hiking trail as the possible starting point for the palisades fire. a smaller wildfire there was ignited by fireworks on new year's eve. >> now, you can see on this map where the fires are still burning and where the mandatory evacuation zones remain. the areas in yellow are the zones where evacuation warnings are underway. now to reporter josh einiger from our sister station in new york, who is in altadena today. >> there isn't a lens wide enough to capture the extent of what happened in altadena, california. thousands of homes have all but vanished. now there are row after row of ash, very established homes and established communities, generational family homes that have been passed down. >> and it's extremely sad to see the devastation that has happened here. >> jake rodriguez works for the u.s. forest service, which owns the land where the fire started, in the mountains that ring this city and from which the firestorm raged. >> when

"l.a. times" retracted its endorsement of the mayor of los angeles. welcome to reality. i think this is a conversation a lot of americans are going to be having and demand of congress, real safeguards and real accountability when we send out disaster relief. this is -- we are going to look at this honestly and not political. we have to do the right thing for the people when we'll get back to you all soon. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2025] captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org. >> house democratic leadership also spoke about the california wildfires and speaker johnson's comments about putting conditions on aid to the state. members commented on the transgender athlete bill that passed the u.s. house. >> good morning. grateful to be joined by representative ansari, new members to the 119th congress and so pleased to have them playing leadership roles in the democratic caucus and always joined by ted lieu as well and start by expressing our prayers from t

the l.a. times rorts that last week, ice agents made arrests in kern county. that's near bakersfield. after that, were posted in several other bay area cities, including san jose and san francisco. those false reports are triggering real consequences. unfortunately, what we did see is that when that scare came out, parents did come to pick up their students. wait until that comes down to figure that out. laura says one of those false reports started when someone spotted a swat team serving a routine arrest warrant unrelated to immigrants. many others are linked to false social media posts. some immigrants rights supporters say that they feel at least some of those posts were meant to instill fear in the community. okay, here's something you don't hear often. the bay area is at the bottom of a new real estate survey. yes, zillow report is looking at the hottest housing markets in the nation. so why is the bay area left out in the cold? and what does that mean for buyers and sellers here? here's nbc bay area's ian cull. generally speaking, the bay area ends up a

the l.a. times is reporting fire agencies are investigating whether a downed power line may have caused that fire. southern california edison said friday a downed conductor was found near the fire, but added that it's unclear if it happened before or after the fire started. >> governor newsom has signed an executive order to help rebuild homes and businesses destroyed by the fires in southern california. this executive order suspends permitting and review requirements under the state's environmental quality act and the california coastal act. the goal here is to get these rebuilding projects underway a lot quicker. his order also aims to curb price gouging on building materials and other construction services. the governor says more will be done to help those affected by the fires. >> part of that is prepping the site, getting all the debris removal done, dealing with the hazardous waste. getting that done as quickly as possible. getting those contracts in order. at the same time, simultaneously get

just an incredible thing that alta vista has helped us with, united teachers los angeles told the l.a. timest 150 school employees it represents have lost their homes, and 550 are displaced. earlier today, governor newsom announced measures to help schools recover and maintain funding. raj jess audrey, thank you. also headed here to the bay area, 30 dogs and cats from la animal shelters will arrive at sanan francis's spca tomorrow evening. the goal is to create space down in southern california for animals displaced by these wildfires. so if you're wondering, like a lot of people are, how to help? just go to nbcbayarea.com. click on the tab in our trending bar. you'll find a long list of valid organizations that are focused on helping the fire victims. okay, w we're following some breaking news overseas. impeached south korean president yoon suk yeol was arrested early wednesday morning, local time. nearly 3000 officers were on hand at his home to bring him into custody. this is the second attempt to arrest yoon follong a failed attempt earlier this month. yoon is facing insurrection charges

at the end of the day, the -- the homeless situation as well, i was looking at another statistic l.a. times 2021, 24 fires on average breaking out everyday. and one of the city's have also encampments los angeles. >> people lost everything homes burnt to the ground, so attributes turning angry toward the leadership, and failed policies, california governor gavin newsom passing the blame on local leaders even his own team. here he is object the podcast this weekend. >> i am governor california want to know answer i've got that answer i can't tell you how many people with a happened on my object team saying what happened i want thence can't even get straight answers. >> can get answers karen bass downplaying the ingredients between california democrats and president trump, but of course he former california congressman he devin nunes broke it down laid out foiled policies that got us here watch this. >> pretty simple, swatters, grazing, lobbying those industries have all been hampered agriculture, down in, land because of lack of water this means when farms don't get water guess what l.a. bas

l.a. timesorting in mandeville canyon area, firefighters are trying to stop the palisades fire, they stole $ $200,000 in one house and in the eaton fire, an individual stole an emmy award from a home. that is why l.a. new da dan hockmans they will not put up with this. listen. >> we anticipated this was going to happen, these people are seeking to exploit this tragedy. we are here to announce prom i was is we made that criminals would be arrested and prosecuted and punished is a promise we're keeping. >> griff: finally we have learned that president-elect trump will be coming here, fox news confirming. we don't know a date or when. we know the incoming president will come to california and view the damage as it continues. back to you. >> todd: griff jenkins, thank you. a navy veteran and single mom of four now searching for a new place to live after her home and community were destroyed in the palisades fire. sarah joins us now. i am so sorry. can you find words to describe what the last week ha

this is the headline it "l.a. times." strong winds this week ventura county as major risk of fires and now what is it four or so days later the fires that were protected have killed 11 and destroyed more than 10,000 homes businesses and schools. we have seen the video. they are dazed. confused many are furious with former officials asking why given the wind warning and the dry conditions that newsom and karen bass did not preposition sufficient fire fighting resources in the most at risk areas. now, obviously the fire department budget cuts did not help and the dim witnessed dei hires are way out of their league. but even they can see how much the city's liberal leadership has failed. >> the fire department needs to be properly funded and it's not? >> it's not at this point. >> did the city of los angeles fail you and your department and our city. it's my job to stand up as a chief as exactly justifiably what the fire department needs to operate to meet the demands of the community. get us what we need so firefighters can

he should also look into this disturbing new report from the l.a. times. claims of major pacific palisades reservoir was offline and empty when the fires broke out. so the last thing people in la needed was a false panic. but thousands of their phones started buzzing last night with this emergency evacuation alert. turns out it was an error and meant for people in a different fire warning zone. top officials then acting totally clueless on how it happened. and like kamala, they promised to find out the root causes. watch. >> i want to clarify. this is not human driven. there is no one sitting at a desk right now initiating emergency alerts as these alerts are being issued. they are not being activated or initiated by a person. we have every technical specialist working to resolve this issue and to find the root cause. >> and after that screw up, gavin newsom had the gall to lecture people about misinformation. >> i ask you. we've got to deal with this misinformation. there were hurricane force winds of mis and disinformation lies. people want to divide thi

time to try align. different parts of the l.a. county.he latest flaring up in the hollywood hills area threatening iconic land marks. >> lawrence: at least five people are dead and more than 100,000 are under evacuation orders. scenes of heart breaking loss playing out all across the region. >> steve's pet store is gone. fox's gone. al patron gone. everything in this neighborhood. altadena. we have been here since 8:00 a.m. fighting them ourselves. no one is safe from this. >> it's really scary when you can see the flames coming up over the houses two blocks away and you're just getting out of the driveway and the smoke and the ash is so thick, you can't even see. >> brian: pacific palisades fire burning over 17,000 acres so far and the eaton fire outside of pasadena charring over 10,000 acres. both at zero percent containment. >> as you have seen lye here on fox, a lot of people have lost their houses, including celebrities like screen right. paris hilton who says she is heart broken beyond words after watching her malibu home go up in f

jeff bezos, the owner of the l.a. times, all of these places have other business interests that they need to kind of be in the good graces of the next incoming trump administration if they want to care about those businesses. there's also, of course, fear -- increasing fear about lawsuits. we have already seen abc, of course, pay out $16 million to donald trump. there's been threats of further defamation lawsuits. and also there is actually a fear that we are -- the medi writ large has sort of lost sight of the readership and the population of america that maybe they're kind of getting them wrong. when you do look at the favorability pols, donald trump's favorability, he is in a bit of a honeymoon phase right now, so that is changing. some people so far, slight majority, are okay with how he's handling the transition. there is that feeling that maybe there needs to be some sort of change. that's what you hear from people like "the la times" owner. >> the change is -- >> add a voice like scott jennings. >> you add. that's ri

they shut off the power,, the that controls for the ability to pump the water. >> reporter: the l.a. times is reporting the power outages had nothing to do with water not being available. congress recently approved $100 billion in aid for hurricanes helene and milton. that -- some refrain lawmaker -- republican lawmakers blame l.a. and state officials for the mess. >> help is on the way from president trump and a new administration. but when it comes to congressional funding, the idea that we're going to have an open checkbook no matter how bad your policies are is crazy. if. >> reporter: biden was supposed to be in italy this weekend meeting with the pope. that trip was scrapped so he could monitor and direct federal resources from here in the white house. we are not expecting to see him today to. alicia? alicia: okay. lucas tomlinson live at the white house. good to see you. thank you. griff? ♪ griff: alicia, as we continue to show you the damage, walls the only thing standing here. and then you get through the damage a little bit, in this doorway you can see nothing standing in this are

. >> trace: the owner of the "l.a. timeshere he came on this show talking about changing the ideology to make it more fare and balanced he said the following about karen bass the mayor. watch. >> the "los angeles times" we endorse karen bass. i think right now upfront that is a mistake and we admit that. >> trace: that is a bad declaration if you were karen bass to have the guy who runs the biggest paper in town to say it was a bad decision to endorse. >> that is right. and i bet they feel like they are eating a little bit of a crow right now why he felt the need to replace the entire editorial board at the "los angeles times" and mayor bass is in the same boat as gavin newsom. she has refused to answer for how ill-prepared the state was for this type of wildfire. in fact, her and gavin newsom were actually pointing fingers at people calling out their lack of preparedness accusing them of spreading misinformation and singing they are distracting from the assistance efforts it is actually discussing. >> trace: amber duke, kev

bass knew about the fire and the wind warnings in effect before she chose to fly to africa as the l.a. times says she returned to a burning city. senior correspondent williamness is? our los angeles bureau reports on this. >> let me tell you about the latest trigger for a city on edge. when the county wants you to evacuate you get an alert on your phone and it tells you to get out because a fire is coming. twice energy deluding at 4 am last night thousands of los angeles citizen got one to find it was a mistake. county supervisor tweets saying that was a mistake. the county says go to a website to get more information even though $250,000 people here have no power and even less cell or internet. >> to tell people to go on a website when they may not have access to internet is absolutely absurd and quite frankly not something that i'm recommending. i think that we need to fix this problem so that in fact, when an alert goes out it's legitimate. >> some scrutiny is not saying the politics were responsible for the fire, they are not. it's about asking those in charge the governor, the managemen

. >> and city water official now tell the "l.a. times" reservoir was off line when the fire started causing a shortage of 117 million gallons of water. one official says the water would have helped but would not have saved the day. gavin newsom and l.a. mayor karen bass facing intense criticism about fire preparedness and water shortages. >> he would not going to allow people to divide us for political gain. >> and, bret, this afternoon, california governor newsom posted an online invitation inviting president-elect trump here to california. bret? >> bret: matt finn, thank you. >> the eaton fire is estimated to be 13,956 acres. with 3% containment. we have over 7,000 structures damaged or destroyed and 1,527 fire fighting personnel on scene. >> bret: los angeles county fire chief there. joining us tonight is christopher, the lead pastor of expressions church. in pasadena. he says the building his congregation rents looks like a total loss. pastor, thanks for being here, i know it's a tough time. tell us about the situation. >> yeah, than

however, the l.a. times is reporting that there's an electrical transmission tower in eaton canyon that is currently blocked off, that is being investigated as the possible source of the origin of the fire. now, socal edison did put out a statement yesterday saying that all of their electrical equipment in eaton canyon was working fine and is not the cause of the fire. but again, there is a reportedly an electrical transmission tower that is cordoned off right now as the possible source of this fire. there are many people who are waiting to come back in, but officials are saying the worst is not over yet. you can see the winds are picking up just a little bit here. there's another wind event that ends on wednesday, and authorities are saying people from ventura all the way to san diego, essentially all of southern california, need to be prepared to evacuate omar. >> and of course, keeping an eye on the on those conditions is critical for for those firefighting efforts. veronica miracle in altadena, californi

. >> is not true according to l.a. timesrts of water pumps were not affected by the power outages. congress originally approved one or billion dollars in disaster relief for hurricanes helling and militant victims those estimates to fight the fires in l.a. to help rebuild or greater present number coming in one or $50 billion for some republican lawmakers blame state and city officials for the mess. >> help is on the way for president trump. and a new administration for what comes to congressional funding the idea are going to have an open checkbook number matter how bad your policies are is crazy. >> what just as there's no plans for president biden to speak today. eric: art lucas to the white house thank you. arthel: it is hard to wrap our minds around the devastation from these fires. property damage is estimated in the tens of billions of dollars. the big question, will insurance companies cover that? that's especially troubling issue in california were a lot of companies have left the market because of the high wildfire

we mentioned this a while ago rick crouso who ran for mayor out there he says to the "l.a. timesand apparently there is no water pressure they turn on the hydrants no water. served by great big tanks up in the hills letting these houses burn because they don't have anything. there is no insurance being written right now out in california. you know, these people are going to be left with nothing. i had a friend who just texted me that said they got a friend, my "friends" friend's family lost four houses overnight out there. >> steve, you are right. pumper trucks go dry. 300-gallon capacity and bring in the water tenders as well. when you have a fire widespread as this one was and water supply in the palisades is limited. you have large tanks up in the hills basically that feed it. and they ran out of water pressure. and that was a situation until palisades facing several different areas that firefighters reported. that happened in malibu during the woolsey fire they ran out of fire. private fire crews they had their own pumper trucks and able to knock down some of the flames. that

the l.a. timesre investigating whether a downed power line may have caused that fire. southern california edison said friday a downed conductor was found near the fire, but added that it is unclear if that happened before or after the fire started. >> today on meet the press, governor gavin newsom was interviewed from inside the fire zone in altadena. he was asked if the fires in los angeles will end up being the worst natural disaster in u.s. history. >> i think it will be in terms of just the costs associated with it, in terms of the scale and scope. i don't need to remind the folks in california where the tubbs fire, 5600 houses were lost, and of course, camp fire, where we had 18,000 housing units lost and 80. >> governor newsom also called for a california version of the marshall plan, the american effort to rebuild western europe after world war two. >> we already have a team of looking and reimagining la 2.0, and we are making sure everyone is included, not just the folks on the coast, people

but "l.a. times" reports that they have been unable to act.e fire hydrants turned up dry. >> we're fighting a fire with urban water systems, and that is really challenging. what happened in palisades, we have three large water tanks, about a million gallons each. we ran out of water, and the first tank around 4:45 p.m. yesterday. we ran out of water in the second tank, about 8:30 p.m., and the third tank, about 3:00 a.m. this morning. >> reporter: joining me now is sheila kelleher, captain of at this time los angeles fire department. thank you so much. i can see you're on the road. you have plenty on your hands right now. is there water in pacific palisades to fight this fire? >> yeah. they're getting a handle back on it, like you heard her talking. she's the expert in that facility. but these water systems were never meant to sustain that kind of water usage over 15 hours. and that's what we did. we pumped over three million gallons of water on that fire. so it does drain that system. and they're doing everything they can to fill it back up.

. >> hi, dakota smith with the l.a. times. i have a two-part question for the two fire chiefs. first off, have drones -- unauthorized drones been a problem and have they hurt fire-fighting efforts? and secondly, in terms of the lafd hydrants, was there any scaling back of the inspection of the hydrants in the last year, and did that affect the firefighting effort to chief crowley? >> sure, as to your first question with the drones, i don't have any information on that. so i can't share anything with you on that. in regard to the hydrants, historically, january is our hydrant testing phase. what i can tell you is we work closely with the department of water and power. those hydrants themselves are dwp's hydrants. they are there to service the fire department. we partner with dwp in regard to the testing. the dynamic situation where we are currently with the wildland season, if you may, there was a decision to postpone. we did not -- in regard to the january start date. we have all year to test them. our -- and also, mind you, our local fire stations are every single day going up

last tuesday, and the l.a. times is is reporting that investigators have cordoned off the area around that tower. how seriously are investigators looking at those images, or do you think investigators are any closer today than yesterday in determining a cause of any of these fires? >> well, the professional investigators working on this are going to stay open to any cause. and of course, they want to look for something that may have been caught in some images. but keep in mind that is just one perspective. and so they have to look at the entire area and see what kind of information they can gather in order to make a proper determination using their investigative methods, ensuring that they're ruling out not only what couldn't have happened, but also making sure that they can determine exactly what piece of any sort of material, or if it was a person or however that may have happened. they're going to make sure that they have that all dialed in before they release a report. >> with the investigation clearly underway.

. >> ainsley: the "l.a. times" owner dr. patrick she on endorsing the karen bass democratic mayor.portant to choose leaders based on confidence rather than political affiliation. imagine if this happens to you, brian, you have been through it you don't need a moving truck. you can literally pick up and move everywhere. everything you have collected throughout your entire life is gone. >> steve: everything is you got is in your car if it's not that car right there or those cars. i was readings this morning a lot of people who just ran for their lives are living out of their cars or if they are lucky enough to have a pickup truck like that they have got a little more room and they don't know where they are going to go. >> brian: real quick, instant payments i think of $44,000. i remember we got one. we weren't online then and 200 or i had absolutely no money. $2,200 gave you showed up in a parking lot application did it. now online you can do it. they are built to act quickly. i di don't know where you are gg with that not enough housing. >> ainsley: we talked to that one family they

southern california edison telling the l.a. times it was aware of the lawsuits, and that the cause of the fire remains under investigation. >> law enforcement agencies in the los angeles area have arrested nearly 50 people who were in mandatory evacuation zones, including some who disguised themselves as firefighters. nine were charged today for looting in the areas of palisades and eaton fires. >> the warning shot remains. do not go ahead and engage in looting. engage in internet scams. engage in price gouging. do not violate evacuation orders, and do not commit any of these crimes in which people are trying to profit from the tragedy of the people who have suffered from these various fires with various leads. >> authorities released ring video of some looting suspects entering an evacuated home. officers say they stole more than $200,000 in property in altadena. one man says he's become neighborhood watch. >> and filmed the car show. and they can see us with the license plate, and then they disappear really quickly. >> in the small

the owner of the l.a. times just admitted his paper's endorsement of karen bass for mayor was an error. wow. you think that's a gutsy take? next, he'll say it was a mistake to smoke cigarettes on the hindenburg. so it seems common sense is spreading faster than crabs at larry kudlow's seafood bonanza. the backlash has backed off. bottom line, january 20th is really going to be about the return of the adults. so enjoy your playtime, kiddos in six days. recess is over. yes. gary, it's welcome. >> tonight's guest. >> he was in the shark tank and now he's in my hot tub. shark tank star kevin o'leary. she traded the sidelines for the headlines. host of the michele tafoya podcast, michele tafoya. someone gave her a baby shower, but she still uses her regular one. new york times best selling author and fox news contributor kat to. and for him, all golf is miniature golf. new york times bestselling author, comedian and former nwa world champion tyrus. no. kevin, you are a businessman. a wealthy businessman, a billionair

scrapping winter festivities this year, the l.a. times is reporting in an email sent to some seasonal pass holders. the theme park in santa clara said the park's upcoming season would run from april 5th through october, and that seasonal events will not be part of this calendar year, potentially meaning an end to winterfest and its annual snoopy ice show. we've reached out to the theme park officials for comment and have not yet heard back. a napa restaurant recently fined over child labor violations has closed its doors. the u.s. department of labor says the si casa restaurant and bar at the oxbow market hired children as young as 14 years old. it was fined more than $45,000 last month. the federal agency says the teenagers often worked outside of permitted employment hours during school days, and sometimes operated hazardous equipment. the restaurant confirmed e closure on its website. it is unclear at this point if the other si casa locations will remain open. >> three oakland fire stations will be unoccupied, browned out and not answe

according to the l.a. timesty of the show will be focused on raising money for wildfire relief, and there are plans reportedly in the works for a benefit concert in the days leading up to the show put on by musicares, the grammys charity foundation. the academy of motion pictures arts and sciences announced it will delay the oscar nomination announcement because of the fires. the academy planned to announce the oscar nominees on this friday, but have now pushed it to january 23rd. several events that come before the oscars were also postponed or canceled. the oscars will take place, though, on march 2nd. >> i am urging the feds and the relevant agencies tackling this outbreak to keep their pace. >> cases and concerns climbing over bird flu. coming up, the federal response some lawmakers want to take as the virus spreads roun d flew a man in southern california says two of his cats died when they drank infected milk. and then just last week, san francisco confirmed its first case of bird flu in a human. fox's jon

in fact one guy i read about in "the l.a. times", he said that they chased away a thief on a moped, and watched another one walk into what was left in the house and steal a bag of toys from a christmas gift. this is horrible. i mean, you got all hands-on deck. >> you know the number is 20 and unfortunately it will increase. we fully expect there is a criminal out there, a criminal element out there that is looking at this as an opportunity. we just want to make sure they understand that the cost of this opportunity are going to be significant. the police have basically done an all hands-on deck approach. they have got detectives putting on uniforms right now to make sure they are patrolling the streets. they have asked for resources beyond this county and the resources are arriving. so they are going to do their best to protect us but if those cases land with the d. a.'s office as they will, we will prosecute them to the maximum extent possible. liz: nathan, to you and all of your team at the district attorney's office and all of t

this week, four lawsuits have been filed laying blame on southern california edison and today the "l.a. timesors criticized ellison for falling behind in inspecting its transmission lines and high risk areas just months before this fire. the eaton fire ravaged block after block here in altadena. and the paper did report that edison is reviewing those lawsuits. now to help those in need, take a look. the disaster resource center did open to the public at pasadena city college yesterday. those impacted they were able to talk with fema representatives as well as state and local authorities to apply for financial help and for special loans all of which will be very much needed here as this community continues to try and get back on its feet. we spoke with one woman who lost her home and her business. she runs a mental health program for school children. >> we don't know what we're going to do. where we're going to go. and we just hate that we can't be there now to get to the kids because they really need everybody more and it's almost like covid again. >> reporter: and this really is a beautiful

>> and they're struggling to, by the way, a lot of people who work for the l.a. times in these local papers are people who are impacted themselves by the fires. you know, we've seen some nonprofits really step up, which has been interesting. there's this app called watch duty, which is being heavily relied on by people in los angeles and around the country to follow in real time updates about the fire. and it's very accurate. this is where people are going to understand evacuation information. it's run by volunteers. so there is a place where third parties that aren't government and aren't necessarily for profits can play a role. but i think in the meantime, everybody has to create sort of their information diet that they can go to, to rely on in times of emergency. and i wish i could say that people can just rely on government, but we're in a place right now where even the government is struggling to get ahold of this. >> all right. sarah fisher for us this morning. always grateful to have you. thanks so much for being here. thank you. all right. let's turn now to pol