doctor, what is the relationship between ucla and the l.a. va hospital? >> like many of our institutions we have an affiliation agreement and a institution and a member of them have joint appointments with both of these within the university and also with the va. so i ask because this is a very egregious case and i shared my colleagues comments and it was a case ultimately against ucla board of regents. >> that is correct. >> so the settlement was with this and not with the va? >> well, it is a complicated case in with my case we both satisfactorily agreed to part ways. but if you have noticed, there is tremendous overlap in a federal component two. >> so here is my question. trying to distinguish this. the incident he referred to was the june 2006 party of one of these parties. so was it strictly ucla party? or was it also the va institutional involved in our? >> at a particular party of there were a number of members who were employed as physicians at the va. a component of that was directly related to that investigation occurred at the va. >> the facts

he had apparently as early as november or december of 2009 spoken to someone in the va in the l.a. va about suicidal thoughts, that's on one of his reports, at the end of 2009. he had separated from the marines at the end of april of 2009. i knew nothing of that. we didn't learn until the fall of 2010 when he told us, he said, i have struggled with this thought, but i could never do that to you all. i just can't. and i don't think -- i think in his mind he believed i'm thinking these thoughts, but i could never do that. as far as we know there were two times during the fall of 2010 that he did have enough serious suicidal thoughts that he did reach out, one time he called and talked with me, and another time he spoke with a close friend, and then after that second time he shared with me, you know, that -- or with all of us. so we knew in 2010 at the end of the year, we knew he had struggled with suicidal thoughts. and we also knew that he was on medication and we're assuming that with post traumatic stress and suicidal thoughts and that that the va knew best how to take care of him. i

he had apparently as early as november or december of 2009 spoken to someone in the va in the l.a. va about suicidal thoughts, that's on one of his reports, at the end of 2009. he had separated from the marines at the end of april of 2009. i knew nothing of that. we didn't learn until the fall of 2010 when he told us, he said, i have struggled with this thought, but i could never do that to you all. i just can't. and i don't think -- i think in his mind he believed i'm thinking these thoughts, but i could never do that. as far as we know there were two times during the fall of 2010 that he did have enough serious suicidal thoughts that he did reach out, one time he called and talked with me, and another time he spoke with a close friend, and then after that second time he shared with me, you know, that -- or with all of us. so we knew in 2010 at the end of the year, we knew he had struggled with suicidal thoughts. and we also knew that he was on medication and we're assuming that with post traumatic stress and suicidal thoughts and that that the va knew best how to take care of him. i

he had apparently as early as november or december of 2009 spoken to someone in the va in the l.a. va about suicidal thoughts, that's on one of his reports, at the end of 2009. he had separated from the marines at the end of april of 2009. i knew nothing of that. we didn't learn until the fall of 2010 when he told us, he said, i have struggled with this thought, but i could never do that to you all. i just can't. and i don't think -- i think in his mind he believed i'm thinking these thoughts, but i could never do that. as far as we know there were two times during the fall of 2010 that he did have enough serious suicidal thoughts that he did reach out, one time he called and talked with me, and another time he spoke with a close friend, and then after that second time he shared with me, you know, that -- or with all of us. so we knew in 2010 at the end of the year, we knew he had struggled with suicidal thoughts. and we also knew that he was on medication and we're assuming that with post traumatic stress and suicidal thoughts and that that the va knew best how to take care of him. i

the vast majority of the va projects are sinless, louisville , american lake, san francisco, palo alto, west l.a., long beach. for the most part they high prioritized items because of structural deficiency. some to have patient care for additional space >> with this top aide be the same topic as the list of 20-some projects that are out there waiting to make their way ? >> it is from that list. yes, sir. >> with a match if i took that list and matched it with what you just describe for me? >> if you talking about the 26 or 27 major leases? >> not leases. >> i think you're talking about the historical projects that were ranked. it would match, and it would match against that list for the most part. yes. >> for the most part. what is the most part missing here? >> for the most part, just to give you a direct answer, the ability to complete a project given the size of the required funding it would fit in whereas somewhere else that might only be 20 percent of that project. that is what i mean. >> at the committee hearing in may 1 of the things i talked about and other members did, too, the expanded

va hospitals? does minneapolis look like l.a.? >> i have only been in phoenix and we give tons of really good care. the problem is with health care needs, when you ignore them, a veteran falls through the cracks and that has devastating consequences to their health. we're focusing on the hundreds of thousands of cases where there's been bad care given. we shouldn't lose sight of the fact we've given millions of instances of quality care and that's the reason the va's worth saving. >> our young graduates of our medical institutions, will they still choose to continue to go to the va and give careers ? my fear is we make it so unattractive, so poison that we can't. >> i wouldn't recommend in the current state that people get a job at the va as a physician physical there's some guarantee that whistle-blower retaliation will be protected, that the pay will be commensurate with what's in the community, that there's a professional work environment. everyone just -- i'm really proud to be a va -- >> that's a nightmare scenario because we

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