l.e. oppenheim was running things over there, they had a brainstorming session about how can we draw people to reno-tahoe reno industrial center in the winter months, you know, you have skiing, but the convention really aren't there and the big for the convention center, have -- they were short track olympic skating, hockey tournaments that would draw a lot of tourists from canada. you could do a lot with that, but it's never happened. and you must have heard that hey, we got to get a sheet of ice here and people say it all the time, it never happens. >> yeah, i thank you has been a lot of different plans put on the table for a number of years. we submit -- you know, myriad of different things, but the ice has always been one. we're talking about it currently within the reno event center. talking about adding ice sheet down the reno event center and bringing in a triple a hockey team. they're talking about actually in washoe county working with the city of reno to put south valley sports complex where the working with the in private/public partnership to build ice arena for the kids. but yo