black witness doesn't matter. >> l.z. i know you're a tad angry.y at the hypocrisy of police shootings. mayor rude did i jewely giuliani he accused people of stirring up intense anti-police hatred and said in most occasions officers are justified in their actions. let's listen. >> if you commit a lot of crime, you're going to tend to have more interactions with police and you're going to tend to have more situations get out of control. most of these situations are justified. most of these situations the police officers are acting because we are dealing with people with significant violent records who act in a way to put the police officer's life in jeopardy. so i mean let's give the police a break. i mean this has been three months of anti-police hatred. >> okay. so do you think mayor giuliani will talk about the south carolina case l.z.? >> of course not. absolutely of course not. you know when have you seen him actually come out and say, i've made a mistake with anything in terms of both his policies as mayor and since he's run for president and

better than ferguson right, l.z.?in terms of what's happened since there's been video that can't be denied has gone public. sure it's much better than what happened in ferguson but keep in mind this was an incident that happened on saturday and so as i said before i'm curious as to what happened between saturday and the video being made public on tuesday. that's what i want to know what happened internally. i appreciate the fact that there's swift action taken once the video was made public. the personal information was made to the media so we can dissect who this officer was, but the fact of the matter is he said he feared for his life and the officers around him believed him and they believed the report. and they were going forward with this until the video, and that department needs to find out why. >> well other public officials want to find out why, too, because the governor nikki haley came out and said justice will be served. senator tim scott said he will be monitoring the situation very closely. he had very v

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right there, as l.z. was finishing his comment, what you could see were looters going in another store and starting to come out of it. as we're seeing that around this neighborhood in baltimore. our miguel marquez is seeing a lot of it where he is standing. next we're going to go back to baltimore. what began as rock throwing has now become a full-blown riot, looting, fires, multiple arrests. police officers are injured. and we're going to talk to someone who is on the scene when the riot began to talk about this moment. why did protests that had been lauded, rightfully so for being so peaceful turn so very violent? we also have the mayor of baltimore, stephanie rawlings-blake about to give life press conference with the baltimore police department. so many questions for them to answer tonight. that's going to be live and it's going to be on the other side of this break. financial noise financial noise financial noise quiet! mom has a headache! had a headache! but now, i...don't. excedrin® is fast. in fac

i think that's a very positive thing. >> l.z.ckabee had this to say about the situation in arkansas and indiana. i want to play that and get your response. >> the reason that those corporations put the pressure on indiana and arkansas was because militant gay community put the pressure on them. >> he's talking about, of course when apple's ceo came out and walmart came out and basically blasted both of these laws and these two respective states. but mike huckabee talking about the militant gay community. this is still a very touchy subject around the country. how do we navigate this? >> first of all, i'm upset. i pay my dues. i'm been openly gay for some time and i'm not part of this military organization he's talking about. i want to know where this military park is located. i haven't seen it yet. mick huckabee is dipping his toe in the water to see whether there is room for him to run in 2016. that's where his guns gods gravy book is all about that he released in january. i don't really pay that close attention to him. i do wan

joining us our cnn commentator, l.z. if a went eaze justice correspondent pamela brown, cedric alexander a member of president obama's task force on 21st century policing and president of the national organization of black law enforcement executives arnds our cnn anchor don lemon joining us from baltimore. don, start with you. what's your reaction to all of the news we're getting today, especially that bombshell, it's a bombshell citing multiple law enforcement briefed on the police report's investigation saying freddie gray actually sustained those injuries in the back of that van? >> reporter: well listen a lot of people still don't believe it and especially if you're paying attention to what people are saying on the streets and what people are saying on social media, but if you actually read into that report wolf, you see it's not conclusive. they don't know if it was self-sustained or if it was is a sustained through excessive force. the interesting thing is when i spoke to a family member a very close family member