have been previously through the womens' initiative program or the renaissance program or the la cocina program, sf made or other partners that we work with. i can't tell you how more advanced, more knowledgeable, more holisticically think going their businesses these entrepreneurs are, and the beauty of the technical assistance training that they receive is that they're within this kind of small business network and resource group and support center to where they're telling us about resources instead of us telling them about resources even. and then i would say cost of living for families. i'm not sure what the city can do about that necessarily but it's something that has come up quite a bit. but i just want to wrap up by saying san francisco really progressive and when we're putting this together it was -- we just kept reiterating how far advance san francisco is compared to other communities in terms of what services they do provide for women, and you know barriers to entry for women are not as high as we would imagine them to be in other communities, so i want to leave it at that. >> great

la cocina. we partner with working solutions to get access to capital. we became a trustee for the new keepa zip program so they are having a local program interest free loans that are crowd sourced. people can go on the website and donate $25 and once you have the full amount can you get the interest free loan and doesn't reflect on your considered which is good and a bad thing. >> >> so things that the city can do to improve the environment for women business owners i would say recognize it's job creation. i don't think people think enough of it like that and unemployment is really high on the national agenda and on the city's agenda and thinking of self employment as a remedy to unemployment i think is a really positive step. small businesses also need incentives. nicole mentioned the grant programs for opening brick and mortars. that was a great program. many women got to start their businesses through these grant programs. another idea would be to increase city purchasing from small businesses and women owned businesses. i know there are some competitive contracts that are offered to small business