companies, and then in your recent speech you talked about perhaps subsidies for broadband a la food stamps. could you reconcile those? >> guest: sure. [laughter] >> host: there's a lot of questions. sorry about that. [laughter] >> guest: let's start by saying that the investment in this space is huge. i mean, our company alone has been investing at the rate of $17 billion a year for the last several years, and when you look at that in contrast to all other american companies, it's much greater than any other american company but at&t. a few years we've been ahead, a few years they've been ahead, but our companies and the rest of the industry are investing huge amounts of money in infrastructure. the fcc estimated investment of up to $50 billion -- $350 billion needed to get our infrastructure to improve to match the services and the demands that will come from the marketplace. so you have to have a climate which encourages and permits that investment, okay? part of creating that climate is having a government policy that makes sense, so you want, you want a policy that insures the consumer