. >> but for that suspect of a the perpetrator of that hypothesis that you can test labatt is where it goes wrong very often. >> so working now with the innocence project but then it turns out the blood in the car was not the victim. very simple. this is so simple and that is not even allowed but that is the whole case. >> maybe you can explain it? >> so that has been used to dump the body -- the body of the victim in fact, there was one juror who said if that was the case and never would have found thompson guilty that was in 1993 your 94 when the trial occurred and it was found there was a 0 percent chance the victims' blood was in of the end so it is a very difficult thing but then the victim to have a shady dna evidence and then they changed the story then made the day had the wrong guy? with a convicted person so all the evidence is not adding up any more. we should do more dna testing. >> but then you get to the problem of the crime labs which is the terrible shortage of competent crime lab san the underfunded so it is great to have dna testing but who will do it?. >> there are c

. >> labatt as bad as smoking and to that as he was saying there is a tough analysis of what could be done with the iran contra experience the part of that which was understanding was that the testimony that have had not had the opportunity to interview even the of the mill it will be. beth to important with. >> because. >> you can do that in consultation but who is more important? but for those who have listened to the earliest to protect but if the witness refuses but normally but that special counsel was until the to the conflict because i mentioned in my opening remarks to this important but those repeated a serious is is important to know what to is possible. >> i apologize. >> but the you have to revise the first there was the fifth amendment privilege nut to shift on to you every. >> the other remedy is to determine what is it then interaction a real fast for the the los you think why we shouldn't be allowed to them read his lips -- because he insists that front a congressional hearing. >> the department of justice tells us with regard to law enforcement materials generated it