the labour leadership debate. we're going to pause briefly for the news headlines. >> welcome back to the sky news labour leadership debate. we've been discussing ed miliband's question as to who the other candidates has the prestige of them. what is your answer? and they are great answers and all the candidates have brought something to this campaign. when in new labour leader is elected, we need to unite behind that letter. we did not see that under gordon. we should not stop debating policies. we have to focus our fire on this coalition government. we need to provide the strong opposition. didn't come what may, we're one to see all five of you in the shadow cabinet. >> that as a matter for the parliament. i think everyone has merit. >> all going to be there? >> happy to be there subject to the parliamentary elections. >> let's move on to our next question. >> when you deal with the plight of those who have been treated unfairly compared to many immigrants and asylum seekers for a period of probably more than 40

but unlike labour, we'll be tough on tax cheats too. we will crack down on the super rich who hide away money overseas. we will take on organised crime gangs set up to avoid tax. and we will prosecute five times as many tax cases as labour ever did. so the message is loud and clear: just as the public sector must be made affordable, the banks must be held to account. and tax avoiders and evaders must have nowhere to hide. i want to make something crystal clear about the coming spending review. it is not an ideological attack on the size of the state. there is one reason and one reason only for these cuts: as liam byrne said in that infamous letter: there isn't any money left. it's not smaller government i believe in. it's a different kind of government: a liberating government. this government will transform the state. reversing generations of centralisation. putting power into people's hands. because the job of government is not to run people's lives. it is to help people to run their own. i want britain to have the best schools and ho

will next labour day be a more happy one? >> things are a little better in some respect than they were a year or so ago. >> this street fair was packed. >> i think what they are looking at is trying to go ahead and look to the future and hope it will go ahead and be stronger. and this type of event encourages that. >> i was out of work for four years. so i just did an information al interview. i knocked on the door, called them up and asked, you know, would you do an informational interview? and he said yes and i got the job. >> we're gearing up for a more positive fall season. and i'm ready for it. ani really believe that my customers are ready for it, too. so we are looking optimistically down the road. >> anything optimistic on labour day 2010 that i see, it's the strength of the entrepreneial culture among yoger people to get out there and start businesses, new enterprises, try new things. >> that's how california's agricultural aerospace tourism and high technology industries came to be. i'm consumer editor tom vakar. kt

i hope that labour members will back those plans.problem we have is that there are not enough good school places. it does not matter how many different schemes are devised for lotteries or anything else for getting kids into good schools, we need more good school places, not least in great yarmouth. >> talking of schools, on september 2 the department for education sneaked out the equalities impact assessment associated with the building schools for the future decision. that assessment showed that the scrapping of that policy had a disproportionate impact on poorer children in our society. can the prime minister explain what is progressive about that? >> one person's announcement is another person's sneaking out; i do not quite understand that. let me tell the person who was largely responsible for designing building schools for the future what a completely shambolic and disastrous program it was. it took three years and £250 million before a single brick was laid; well, maybe we should assess that. the other thing that we could perh

we had had a very strong definition of new labour, new labour policies, new labour outlook, new labouronnection with mainstream center-ground voters in this country and i think that many of those voters felt they had sort of lost their compass a bit, they had gone off piece and the result is that many didn't vote or they voted for the next new fresh alternative and that appeared to be the conservatives. >> charlie: what do you think of david cameron? >> i think he's a good politician. i'm not sure how good his policies are going to be, but that's a different question. >> charlie: he just lost his father -- >> he lost his father, yes, and he is a very strong family man -- look, he's a regular sort of nice guy, and he does his politics well. he communicates wellment he leads his party well. >> charlie: does he remind you of tony blair? >> he does, slightly, yes, but with different policies, and i think that -- look, this is a government that's not even out of its honeymoon period, that it's now shaping up to take some major decisions about public spending. they are signaling, now, that t

labour is about nothing if we're not breaking down this. it looked like we were courting the super rich. it appeared that we are intensely relaxed about that gaps in society. i never was. [unintelligible] >> i want to make this point which is that immigration is a class issue. it affects different people in our society differently. if you see people coming in to compete for your job, you worried that it lowers your wages and conditions. if you're looking to hire a builder, that is good for you. that does to the question that i and raised. we have to be tougher and protect people's wages and conditions with the right regulations. people in my constituents raised -- were same -- [unintelligible] >> it is business which makes the case for free markets. we should make the case of their markets. -- of fair markets. you have to have proper controls and wages to start -- to stop undercutting. we can win the argument for immigration and diversity. >> let me say quite straight you about the immigrants. my daughter is an immigrant. -- i am the daught

minister under prime ministers tony blair and gordon brown, a key architect of the labour campaign that helped his party rise to power in 1997. he served as secretary of state for trade and industry, secretary of state for northern ireland and secretary of state for business. he has now written a book about those years of public service. it is called "the third man, life at the heart of new labour," i am pleased to have peter mandelson back on this program. welcome. >> nice to be back. >> charlie: let me get to some of the controversy first. that tony blair is not happy that your book is coming out as it did, because -- and that somehow it's created a little tension between the two of you. >> no tension between the two of us. tension between our respective publishers. >> charlie: did you -- >> it would make a great deal more than a book to come between me and tony blair. >> charlie: i'll come to that later. were you intent on getting out first? >> i was intent on getting my book into the book shops as soon as i could mainly because, while it's fresh in my memory, i wanted to get it on t

his book was published on the day when labour members start voting on the party member who will succeed him and gordon brown. he is clearly backing it david miliband . >> is fairly obvious and we were backing coming in for some reason, you'll have not set. >> it may be obvious, but i have not said it. >> no one wants to be clear to -- close to the former leader. >> [unintelligible] do you think it hinders you to be seen as the heir to blair? >> i am tired of people asking me that. >> tony blair and gordon brown both make -- but made mistakes. they both lost trust. i am afraid, they have to come out of touch. >> the significance is whether this in the end of the new labour journey or helps to ensure it's a continues. bbc news, westminster. >> you were watching "bbc world news." still to come -- taking a look at an old wreck. robots shine the light on one of the world's most famous shipwrecks. now, a team of divers have begun to salvage bottles of what is thought to be the world's oldest champagne. despite an estimated two centuries in a shipwreck at the bottom of the baltic, the champagn

-- labour leadership. >> are you actually on your way out? out of the building. >> david miliband has just left a meeting with his brother. he is determined to say nothing about his future in labour and in the cabinet. today's private meeting of the brothers happened after this public display of affection from the man who lost. he promised to keep both party and family united. >> no more cleats, no more -- cliques, no more factions, no more soap operas -- when united labour party taking on one united government. >> that sounds and this looks like happy families. what is all the fuss about? it is quite simple. when david miliband arrived at a conference today he made clear he had yet to make up his mind about his future in politics. on the day the imf endorsed the government's approach to cutting the deficit, the man who was chancellor warned his party not to think it could opposed every public spending cut. tomorrow, we will find out whether his new leader was listening and whether ed miliband can convince people to stop talking about his bro

he created new labour, which made the labour party a formidable force. blair was a centrist with a vision of a third way that focused on social justice and free market capitalism. he forged close relationships first with president clinton and then with president bush. his most significant decision by far was supporting the u.s.-led invasion of iraq. he has come to understand the controversy of that decision and reaffirmed the convictions that led to it. since leaving office in 2007, he has led a full and engaged life. he converted to catholicism, he established the tony blair faith foundation to promote interreligious dialogue, he teaches at yale university, he is a consultant to a number of private enterprises around the world. he's continued in public service as the middle east envoy of quartet, that keeps him involved in the peace process. many have come to this program and talked about tony blair's decisions. here are two that showed the dramatic difference of opinion. one from the dramatist and late nobel laureate harold pinter and the other recentl

be milliband 21 said that labour should not blame themselves for the -- who once said that labour should not blame themselves for the defeat. he blamed tony blair for invading iraq. >> we were wrong to take britain to war. we need to be honest about it. >> watching, stony faced, the leaders of the war, including brother david. he appears to answer angrily, "you voted for it. why are you clapping?" >> if we did not build up sufficient alliances, which undermined the united nations. >> a policy that has earned in the nickname "be rejects -- the reject." >> , on. let's have of grown-up debate in this country about the we are, what we believe. >> the next challenge -- the country. bbc news, manchester. >> stay with us, if he can, and "bbc world news." still to come -- a new heart treatment. first though, it is a piece of technology that is indispensable to many in the big commercial opportunity. the latest blackberry device is called the play book. >> introducing the world's first professional tablet. the blackberry playbook. >> they may be billing it as the first of its kind, but it is curi

it was under the labour government that no further action was taken. it is their former home secretary who is making all sorts of pious remarks who decided not to involve the hmic, the director of prosecutions. the crown prosecution service decided not to take further action. if the police not think that new evidence has come to light, let them decide. >> jack straw. >> mr. speaker, the media select committee chaired by your honorable friend, said, "the evidence we find makes it inconceivable that no one else at the news of the world, bar mr. goodman, was aware of the activity of phone hacking." what does the prime minister know that the select committee does not know? >> the police now need to decide whether, in the light of the new allegations that have been made, there is new evidence which requires further investigation. that is what the police are there for. i want them to get on with appier that is what i expect they should do. honestly, i am not going to take any lessons from a party that spent all its time in office back fighting against each o

here in britain, the new leader of the labour party did his speech.d miliband said he relishes the chance to take on prime minister david cameron as part of labour's new generation. >> the phrase that he kept on using time and again in his speech was my generation, the new generation. the reason he was doing that is he wants to separate himself away from tony blair and gordon brown and their eria in government. he was a very critical of the war in iraq. he said it was a wrong and that britain undermined united nations. not everyone in the hall like that. >> off iraq divided our party and our country. many sincerely believes the world face a real threat. i criticize nobody, faced with making the toughest decisions, and i honor my troops who fought and died there, but i do believe we were wrong. >> he was also critical on the labour record on regulating banks. he argued that britain did not do enough to make sure its economy was stable. the other thing he wanted to separate himself up from was the unions, the people who helped to elect him. he said he w

here in britain the opposition labour party -- opposition labour party conference is address by the man expected to be their new leader, 48 hours after losing out to the younger brother. here is our political correspondent, naomi griffin. >> likened it to shakespeare, two brothers pitted against each other, a lesser and more experienced man emerging victorious. finding himself thrust into the limelight as the new leader of the opposition. not everyone thinks it is a good move. and he has to reassure his critics that he will not let things lurch to the left. >> all of these characterization's are tiresome and rubbish, frankly. >> as he gets to grips with his new job, his older brother, david, has missed out on achieving a lifetime ambition. will they be able to get over his disappointment and serve with his younger brother? or will he simply want to quit british politics altogether? it does not sound like the brothers have even spoken much since the result was announced. >> are you confident? >> i think if he will make his own decisions. >> nevertheless, david may prefer to hunt for a jo

to be honest, he built up this new version of the labour party. again, somewhat ridiculed now but the concept of new labour was a good one, i think. the concept was we're not on about the class war, we don't think it's wrong for people to make money. what we do want to do is take thatcherrism and we want to take off some of the rougher edges of it. as he points out, he did win a lot of elections as a result. >> rose: he says that when you talk about it. i'm not sure he appreciates the depth of the kind of complaint about iraq but he... >> i think that's true. i think it's an element whereby he's somewhat... his life is insulated from that. he does... he hears a bit from there. the sheer anger and fury, blair amongst the british middle-classes and beyond is very deep... >> rose: it hasn't disappeared. >> and it's not just predictable people. people feel really strongly and bitterly about it sphoovment up his self-image is what? do you think? how does he see himself? >> i think he sees himself as so n some ways wronged. he sees himself as a guy who

this is not my first time at labour fest.ome of you remember i stood here with you to years ago when i was still a candidate for this office. during that campaign, we talked about how, for years, the values of hard work and responsibility that have built this country had been given short shrift. how it was slowly hollowing out our middle-class. everybody who has a chair, set down, because everybody is hollering. sit-down. i'm going to be talking for a while. everybody, said. [applause] -- everybody ,sit. you have a lot of hard-working people here. you deserve to sit down for a day. you have been on your feet all year, working hard. but two years ago, we talked about some on wall street who were taking reckless risks, cutting corners to turn huge profits while working americans were fighting harder and harder just to stay afloat. we talked about how things were all too often stacked in favor of special interests and against the interest of working americans. what we knew even then was that these years would be some of the most

that's 11% more than last labour day. gasoline prices are helping. down 7 cents a gallon over the past month. >> they seem to be going down a couple cents or two. it is not that big of a deal to me because my car doesn't waste that much gas. >> reporter: the campgrounds in livermore was a place that a number of people wanted to get to as evidenced by the long line of cars at the park entrance this evening. >> i like this place because we got that lake over there where the kids can swim. it's a nice place here. >> reporter: frank says it took him a while to get here from san jose. he was pitching his tent this evening in a camp ground that was booked up 11 weeks ago. all 151 campsites were reserved well in advance. although overall, the state park system reports attendance this year is down. camping fees were increased from last year as the state continues to struggle with budget deficits. still he says that it was all worth it to sleep under the stars. >> well, i needed to get away from the city and get some time off and relax. this relaxes me. >> re

opunit giview david camer app him his full support, wi contivengup accuse labour of playing politics.are questions for downing street and the police need the answers and they look set to keep asking them. >> it's a scary thought that your cell phone message can be hacked, what can be learned from all that. they say this is as high up in the palace as it could have gone. the queen and charles don't use their cell phones regularly but the prinh@h@h@h@h@h@h@h@h@h@h@h@ >>> welcome back on this tuesday morning, everybody. as some teenagers head to college for the first time, their safety, of course, is on the minds of their parents. rightfully. understandably so. >> absolutely. in a chilling report by the center for public integrity, most universities and colleges underreport campus sexual assaults. cynthia mcfadden reports. >> she had beautiful freckles. i used to tell her she was kissed by the sun. >> reporter: cindy mcgrath lives every day with a tragedy. >> this is her first holy communion. she looked like an angel. >> reporter: made worse by her deep sense it could have all been avoid

we do not have to settle for the dead and waste and taxes left to us by labour.onomic incompetence, the breakdown, the political division, and the mistrust. of course, i hope that a conservative majority would be the outcome of this election and that we could have started today making the changes that i believe our country so badly needs. i know how much the conservative party itself -- all my colleagues in parliament, all the members and activists from the country -- wanted that as well, but i also know they wanted something more than that. they want the best for britain. the conservative party has always been a party that puts the national interest first, and the best thing, the national interest, the best thing for britain now is a new government that works together in the national interest, and i hope with all my heart that is something we can achieve. that is all i have to say for now. i hope you understand, but i will not be taking questions because this urgent work must begin. thank you. >> we leave the british leader's speeches. you can find them in their

that's 11% more than last labour day. gasoline prices are helping. down 7 cents a gallon over the past month. >> they seem to be going down a couple cents or two. it is not that big of a deal to me because my car doesn't waste that much gas. >> reporter: the campgrounds in livermore was a place that a number of people wanted to get to as evidenced by the long line of cars at the park entrance this evening. >> i like this place because we got that lake over there where the kids can swim. it's a nice place here. >> reporter: frank says it took him a while to get here from san jose. he was pitching his tent this evening in a camp ground that was booked up 11 weeks ago. all 151 campsites were reserved well in advance. although overall, the state park system reports attendance this year is down. camping fees were increased from last year as the state continues to struggle with budget deficits. still he says that it was all worth it to sleep under the stars. >> well, i needed to get away from the city and get some time off and relax. this relaxes me. >> re

i did not want to be labour the point, but shorter-term lease at a location that moves it as far as practical away from existing businesses. >> i understand. i just want to understand that you are approving the contingent, but you wanted to come back to the location? >> i want it to come back as an information item, and if the commission chooses to take action not to approve the location, they have a problem of finding an acceptable location. >> we can reject the location, which would come back to us. >> i would like to approve the leases for two years with an acceptable location to be determined shortly at a future meeting. is there a second? all those in favor? it is unanimous. thank you all for coming. >> we are now on item 13, which is washington square, the north beach festival of states -- festival of state -- update. i think we will adjourn the meeting, and then we will have information items. we are going to lose our forum, so i think i have to officially adjourn the meeting, and then we can hear public information items and presentations to the committee. i would entertain a motion t

my wife was in the labor room with other people in labour. we are -- we buy high and health care. whether it is worth that are not is another question. will disband the curve? our estimates are no. in fact health care expenditures will be bigger. part of that is because we introduced more free care. if you are introducing free care, you will not make health care expenditures lore. it appears health care expenditures will rise relative to where they were before the current legislation. what we have done in the free care is to make health care expenditures as a share of gross domestic product which is the big issue they have with the united states. i will not get involved and that argument -- in that argument. the main thing is to demographics. medicare is expanding rapidly. 2011 is the first year the baby boomers will become eligible for medicare and the medicare population will increase exponentially in the next decade. that is the problem that everyone is trying to bet -- address. these are the estimates of what medicare costs per beneficiary. the blue line are -- is what the pri

. >> he came here from puerto rico 30 years ago as an intern at the department of labour.oday, he owns an i.t. company. he has $14 million in revenue. as an hispanic business owner, he is part of a trend. >> these businesses are growing and growing. >> according to new census data, the number of hispanic-owned businesses in our area grew 32%. the areas of largest growth have been construction and administrative services. >> between 2000 and 2008, the hispanic population here grew 53%. >> by the end of 2007, there were more than 44,000 hispanic- owned businesses in the region. that is more than 8% of all local businesses. it also has to do with the fact that more and more latinos are furthering their education. >> even if your english is not sometimes great, you are able to communicate because you are familiar with the economics. >> they bring their flavor and culture to the nation's capital. >> it makes it easier for everybody. latin is very in. >>> that is making as very hungry. [laughter] >>> we hear that there is terrific rain fall. >> by this time tomorrow, there will

now to the labour market, that is where the recession really settled in. we lost over 8 million jobs. still down 7.5 million jobs. we have an unemployment base that has been stuck and will lead to rise before it comes down again. reason is when the marginally attached workers start to look for work, they will suddenly be calculated and counted as unemployed workers. they will show up in the statistics again. if we see little improvement. part-time for economic reasons, that number is bouncing around. at some point that will start to decline. when we look at some of the initial claims numbers like the ones that came out today, they are elevated again. they were down 6000. the four-week moving average is at 480,000 or so. at this stage of the record, we would like to see that a lot lower. the duration is extraordinarily long. there have been recent studies. barrow wrote an op-ed in a newspaper recently about how the administration policy to extend unemployment insurance may have inadvertently created an incentive for people to remain unemployed logger, that

the dax not doing much this thursday despite better than expected labour market data in the united states. they are busy positioning themselves for friday's trading. businesses are coming to a close. >> looking at several market indexes, we stayed in frankfurt, where we see the blue chip dax index clsoose lower. this finished 0.3% in negative territory. the dow industrials ended the session up about 0.25%. the euro is currently trading for $1.37 -- $1.37. analysts blamed a decline on the end of gernment incentive schemes ]imed at encouraging car buyers to operate their model. the surge of new automobile sales in asia is helping make up for the drop in europe. demand for cars in china, india, and japan have risen between 20% and 40%. >> in germany, the father of a teenager who carried out high school shootings has gone on trial. he was originally charged with violating gun laws. 17-year-old son was on a rampage in a southwest -- southeast germantown. he killed 15 people before killing himself. he used the gun that was stored in his father's bedroom unlocked. >> this was the first time that