labour will make brexit work. labour will deliver change. you'll never get that from the tories.rence, you won't get it from the snp either. conference, the challenges we face, the cost-of-living crisis, climate change, standing up to putin, are common across our four nations. we saw off the threat of fascism and deadly disease, together. we built the nhs and the welfare state, together. but i don't believe in our union just because of our history. i believe in it because of our future. i know we can meet the great challenges to come. build new beacons of fairness that light up the islands we share. scotland needs a labour government that can deliver change. but it also needs the power and resources to shape its own future, whoever is in power in westminster. and the snp are not interested in this. for them, scotland's success in the u.k. is met with gritted teeth, seen as a roadblock to independence, and so, they stand in the way. we can't work with them. we won't work with them. no deal under any circumstances. a fairer, greener, more dynamic scotland in a fairer, greener, more

absolutely, and we have many wealthy labour- labour believe in?our party members and supporters out there because people that have come from humble beginnings that to create great wealth, they understand, people that haven't had wealth bestowed upon them because that wellit —— relatives were wealthy, people who crafted from the shop floor and got their wealth, they absolutely get it may the challenges that others face and is not pulling that others face and is not pulling that ladder up, it is about making sure you give opportunities to others, you understand and recognise... one of the things that frustrates me, people say to me you should be a tory because you have done well for yourself, you have worked hard and done well, but it fails to understand that there is opportunities that are snatched away from people and therefore it doesn't enable them to get on, you know, when people said we have had conservative ministers saying to people work a bit longer, get a betterjob, they are not truly appreciating the difficulties that people have. just ap

party coming in to govern the party, _ labour party coming in to govern the party, get _ labour party, get the economy under control and actually _ party, get the economy under control and actually deliver. fine party, get the economy under control and actually deliver.— and actually deliver. one backbench u-rou and actually deliver. one backbench a-rou of and actually deliver. one backbench grow) of mps _ and actually deliver. one backbench grow) of mps has — and actually deliver. one backbench group of mps has promised - and actually deliver. one backbench group of mps has promised it - and actually deliver. one backbench group of mps has promised it at - group of mps has promised it at least is not planning to cause trouble for whoever wins. the erg have resolved _ trouble for whoever wins. the erg have resolved that _ trouble for whoever wins. the erg have resolved that whoever - trouble for whoever wins. the erg i have resolved that whoever becomes the prime minister of the united kingdom, be that tonight or on friday, we will unite behind them and assist them in seeking to unite

so the discipline of labour, not onlyl discipline of labour, not only the desire _ discipline of labouro make _ discipline of labour, not only the desire to make a - the desire to make a confidence, - the desire to make a confidence, but - the desire to make a confidence, but the i the desire to make a - confidence, but the discipline was extraordinary. _ another little kind _ of "from the notebook" as well was, another shadow cabinet minister said to me, - "i have been doing this for years out of power, "just grinding it out - in shadow cabinet, "not being able to make policies, "working really hard, - just in opposition." and they said, "i cannot do| another term in opposition. and i think the thing is, | is that now the hope of, like it didn't look, 2019, - 80—seat conservative majority of borisjohnson, likel completely dominant, you just thought this - is a two—term programme for labour. and i think now because they, they can see it in their grasp, | they're so worried that they'rei going to mess it up or throw it away that i think it is really concentrating the minds. l and it was

we have a pretty vibrant labour marty —— labour market at the moment— labour marty —— labour market at, you want to— moment so on the basis of that, you want to bring people into filled the -aps want to bring people into filled the gaps that — want to bring people into filled the gaps that still exist in it, so i can see — gaps that still exist in it, so i can see as— gaps that still exist in it, so i can see as part of her growth plan this kind _ can see as part of her growth plan this kind of— can see as part of her growth plan this kind of thing could actually work _ this kind of thing could actually work. now, asjo has pointed out, suella _ work. now, asjo has pointed out, suella braverman doesn't want to, she wants — suella braverman doesn't want to, she wants to curb immigration and is not keen— she wants to curb immigration and is not keen on— she wants to curb immigration and is not keen on issuing more visas to people _ not keen on issuing more visas to people from abroad. but in this particular— people from abroad. but in this particular instance, i think probably the pm is r

labour party whenjeremy was leader because i'm labour party when jeremy was leader because i'm not labourader because i'm not in labour party when jeremy was leader because i'm not in politics because i hate the tories, although, my goodness, they're making it quite easy at the moment. and in politics because i believe this country can because i believe this country can be better. i know we can be better and it only happens if everybody —— every generation picks up the pattern invites for it. it’s pattern invites for it. it's interesting _ pattern invites for it. it's interesting you - pattern invites for it. it's interesting you say - pattern invites for it. it's interesting you say that. our young comfortable with the idea that you should say of your opponents, i despise in question like i am, actually. i despise in question like i am, actuall . despise in question like i am, actuall. , ., actually. i was listening to question _ actually. i was listening to question time _ actually. i was listening to question time the - actually. i was listening to question time the other l actually. i

do labour, some people are saying labour— the rhetoric.ying labour need to raise their game a bit, to... say a little bit more about why they should be in government? yes we have had some specific commitments on windfall tax and so on, but there is a feeling that perhaps they are a bit coy on what they would do if they were elected at the next election. funnily enough, i watched the pmqs on the _ funnily enough, i watched the pmqs on the bbc and the panel beforehand, clive lewis _ on the bbc and the panel beforehand, clive lewis at the labour mp was making _ clive lewis at the labour mp was making that point, i agree with this, _ making that point, i agree with this, i— making that point, i agree with this, i think the labour party has done _ this, i think the labour party has done a _ this, i think the labour party has done a very— this, i think the labour party has done a very good job and keir starmer— done a very good job and keir starmer has done a very good job in decontaminating the brand. that is what i _ decontaminating the brand.

so the whole of that period then is spent under a labour government.nce you've been directly in politics as a member of parliament, at least, you're under the tories again. yeah, although that is part of the reason that i stood for parliament in 2010, because i'm from manchester originally, although towns, towns, towns and everyone knows that i spent my teenage years in bury and i've made my home in wigan. i grew up in manchester in the 1980s in a very angry, divisive time, and i was 17, i was almost 18. i didn't get to vote, but i was 17 when i saw my first labour government, and there was this feeling during that time that progress was inevitable. and if i've learnt anything in the recent years, it's that if you want a better country you do have to go out and. fight for every day. that battle is never won. so in 2009, i came back to manchester for conservative party conference. i was working with child refugees at the time and the conservatives were here and hadn't seen lots of conservatives in manchester for a very long time. it was quite an unusual

i people in the labour party who can't welcome it?— welcome it?nk there are issues around rishi — welcome it? i think there are issues around rishi sunak's _ welcome it? i think there are issues around rishi sunak's wealth, - welcome it? i think there are issues around rishi sunak's wealth, and i around rishi sunak's wealth, and obviously he is a chancellor who was increasing taxes for working people at the time when obviously he has great wealth and his wife at the family were avoiding tax through the non—dom status, but you could congratulate and see a prime minister of asian heritage getting into number 10 minister of asian heritage getting into numberio and minister of asian heritage getting into number 10 and seeing how amazing that is, and congratulating him on that basis without bringing everything else into it, and i think sometimes, especially with the fast pace of politics, it can get ahead of itself, whereas sometimes it is nice to stop and look at something for what it is and say, this is a good thing. you might not like everything tha

labour party. 0r street. you cannot say that about the opposition. labour party.ts. let's talk up with what is happening tojonathan riley with the editor. he spoke to us a little earlier and it's good to see you envision submit to listen to your voice and listen to the pictures from the house of commons. can you give us an idea of what is going on behind the scenes? take for example, that uncertainty over whether or not the chief whip and the deputy chief whip are still members of the what is your understanding?— whip are still members of the what is your understanding? these kind of discussions have _ is your understanding? these kind of discussions have been _ is your understanding? these kind of discussions have been quite - is your understanding? these kind of discussions have been quite frankly l discussions have been quite frankly often behind the scenes. the difference tonight is that they exploded out in the voting lobbies, in front of plenty of backbench mps and plenty of opposition backbench mps. that kind of frank rao that is been rippling through westm

labour has not diverged.ost: the fact is -- [overlapping voices] >> they have few division demons in the closet with brexit, union strikes, there are a few divisive issues in the labour party, were it to make it to a general election. afzal: what i said was to do with brexit. i am trying to say, how come with such high inflation, and it years of stagnation, and how is it for the last 12 years, the most growth in 200 years -- surely this is not all about brexit. i am bringing home the point the chaos at the heart of the government, failing to deal with the brexit issue as well. the idea of brexit is that everything will be fine. host: the question now is, labor also has --labour also has its divisions and does not have a clear vision when it comes to some of these issues, whether it is exit, positions on union strikes, voter reforms, true or false? afzal: i do not accept that. the whole country was divided on brexit. half wanted to remain and half wanted to leave. host: but you have to have a policy and that i

fiur obligation in the labour party? our lan obligation in the labour party?d up in the _ plan is to ensure that we don't end up in the situation for some in wales— up in the situation for some in wales we _ up in the situation for some in wales we haven't got the strikes that we — wales we haven't got the strikes that we are seeing in england. the reason _ that we are seeing in england. the reason that— that we are seeing in england. the reason that we are in the situation is the _ reason that we are in the situation is the government stoking up the tensions — is the government stoking up the tensions. this week they want trauma — tensions. this week they want trauma. they were the ones that have caused _ trauma. they were the ones that have caused chaos— trauma. they were the ones that have caused chaos in this country. people make _ caused chaos in this country. people make sure _ caused chaos in this country. people make sure that there is fair. agreements people get around the table and that we solve the disputes. we want minimum operation -- we _ dispute

what was the prime minister like and, indeed, the labour leader like?cenes? i was really struck listening to the conversation about liz truss and her demeanour and her capacity to keep going. because you do see leaders in the immediate moments before you do an interview and the cameras aren't rolling and you get other opportunities at conference to see them, not in a private setting really because they know that we're journalists and we know that they're the prime minister or the leader of the labour party. but in moments that aren't as formal as an interview and the prime minister's capacity to just keep going and actually to keep smiling and be chipper when the overall mood of her conference was one of being winded because of the about turn over the tax rates, the higher tax rate for the best paid in england, wales and northern ireland. and then the row about benefits was really quite something. as for keir starmer, he kind of — it's hard to kind of measure this, james, but you can kind of feel it. it seems like he's kind of walking a couple of inches

if you i look at the labour party and liberal democrats — look at the labour party and liberal democratser greater scrutiny. there is an _ government, under greater scrutiny. there is an important debate. the new home — there is an important debate. the new home secretary is very experienced and very mindful of the prime _ experienced and very mindful of the prime minister's comments. we need migration— prime minister's comments. we need migration but needs to be managed in the right— migration but needs to be managed in the right way. yes, there's the more drama _ the right way. yes, there's the more drama in_ the right way. yes, there's the more drama in westminster today. whatever stay to— drama in westminster today. whatever stay to my _ drama in westminster today. whatever stay to my constituents and those listening — stay to my constituents and those listening to this is the focus of the government is delivering and we have started very well the last few weeks _ have started very well the last few weeks of _ have started very well the last few weeks of bringing jeremy hunt, that is

i. think labour are already to set out a ptah _ think labour are already to set out a ptah for— thinkl— put their ideas on the table and we'll hear— put their ideas on the table and we'll hear more _ put their ideas on the table and we'll hear more from _ put their ideas on the table and we'll hear more from jonathanl we'll hear more from jonathan reynolds _ we'll hear more from jonathan reynaldo— we'll hear more from jonathan re nolds. ~ . . , , reynolds. wheel him and a second but ou've reynolds. wheel him and a second but you've acknowledged _ reynolds. wheel him and a second but you've acknowledged clearly _ reynolds. wheel him and a second but you've acknowledged clearly and - reynolds. wheel him and a second but you've acknowledged clearly and it - you've acknowledged clearly and it sounds like you are very worried about what a lot of your customers might experience in the next couple of months, but tesco, your projected profit is around £2.5 billion. would it be possible for big businesses to maybe absorb more of the cost? we are, we have taken our forecasts of profit _ we are,

labour mp after labour mp was calling for a general election. , . ., election. thank you very much for 'oinin: election. thank you very much for joining us- — election. thank you very much for joining us- in _ election. thank you very much for joining us. in five _ election. thank you very much for joining us. in five minutes' - election. thank you very much for joining us. in five minutes' time i election. thank you very much for. joining us. in five minutes' time we are going to have prime minister's questions. more drama and excitement or maybe not depending on the strategy taken on by kier starmer. look at this piece in the guardian. does this mean there is going to be a change of strategy? kier starmer has had a busy time dealing with borisjohnson, liz has had a busy time dealing with boris johnson, liz truss and has had a busy time dealing with borisjohnson, liz truss and now rishi sunak. he boris johnson, liz truss and now rishi sunak-— boris johnson, liz truss and now rishi sunak. . , , . , rishi sunak. he has been warning his shadow cab

the labour leader aaain said bring us down. the labour leader again said there _ bring us down. again said there should _ bring us down. the labour leader again said there should be - bring us down. the labour leader again said there should be a - bring us down. the labour leader i again said there should be a general election to let the public decide. there are worries among tory mps that mr sunak would not be able to win votes in the same way as mr johnson when the next election is called. but for now he is the only declared candidate who is certain of a place on the ballot tomorrow. helen catt, bbc news. well, whoever becomes the next conservative leader and prime minister will have the cost of living crisis at the top of their in tray. this morning there was a stark warning from the former governor of the bank of england, lord king, about the size of the challenge they'll face. he said whoever is in power will need to impose public spending cuts or tax rises in order to tackle inflation. mervyn king said economists had got in wrong by suggesting printing money to support peo

i extraordinary allegation from a labour mr— extraordinary allegation from a labour mp. , , , labourur mp. i saw members being physically manhandled into i labour mp. i saw members being l physically manhandled into another lobby and being bullied. itrailiiile lobby and being bullied. while c inc! if lobby and being bullied. while crying! if we — lobby and being bullied. while crying! if we want _ lobby and being bullied. while crying! if we want to _ lobby and being bullied. while crying! if we want to stand up| crying! if we want to stand up auainst crying! if we want to stand up against the — crying! if we want to stand up against the bullying _ crying! if we want to stand up against the bullying in i crying! if we want to stand up against the bullying in this i crying! if we want to stand up i against the bullying in this house of our staff, we have to stop bullying in this chamber as well, don't we? louie bullying in this chamber as well, don't we? ~ ., ., , don't we? we will have a little bit of aood don't we? we will have a little bit of good behaviour _ don't we? we will have

is he a labour supporter? he . is he a labour supporter? he sanu is he a labour supporter?g chris martin is _ really for my wife. meeting chris martin is like - really for my wife. meeting chris martin is like me i really for my wife. meeting - chris martin is like me meeting atop _ chris martin is like me meeting a top footballer. _ chris martin is like me meeting a top footballer. it _ chris martin is like me meeting a top footballer. it is _ a top footballer. it is absolutely _ a top footballer. it is absolutely amazing i a top footballer. it is i absolutely amazing and a top footballer. it is - absolutely amazing and so we were — absolutely amazing and so we were lucky— absolutely amazing and so we were lucky enough _ absolutely amazing and so we were lucky enough to - absolutely amazing and so we were lucky enough to meet i absolutely amazing and so we i were lucky enough to meet him at that— were lucky enough to meet him at that concert _ were lucky enough to meet him at that concert but _ were lucky enough to meet him at that concert but that - were lucky enough to m

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- polls lately and labour storming _ polls lately and labour storming ahead - polls lately and labourls lately and labour- storming ahead but are saw how quickly _ storming ahead but are saw how quickly boris _ storming ahead but are saw how quickly boris johnson's - storming ahead but are saw how quickly boris johnson's watches i quickly boris johnson's watches shifted — quickly boris johnson's watches shifted from _ quickly boris johnson's watches shifted from an _ quickly boris johnson's watches shifted from an 80 _ quickly boris johnson's watches shifted from an 80 seat - shifted from an 80 seat majority _ shifted from an 80 seat majority being - shifted from an 80 seat majority being booted i shifted from an 80 seat . majority being booted out shifted from an 80 seat - majority being booted out of office — majority being booted out of office by— majority being booted out of office try his _ majority being booted out of office by his own _ majority being booted out of office by his own mps - majority being booted out of office by his own mps and i majority being booted out of offi

to show labour on course continue to show labour on course for a majority. what do you make of that? for a ma'ority. what do you make of that? �* , , ~ that? it's interesting, i think david was — that? it's interesting, i think david was saying _ that? it's interesting, i think david was saying earlier, - that? it's interesting, i think david was saying earlier, if l that? it's interesting, ithink- david was saying earlier, if you're an mp _ david was saying earlier, if you're an mp and — david was saying earlier, if you're an mp and your somewhere looking at the fact_ an mp and your somewhere looking at the fact that labour at the moment — if there _ the fact that labour at the moment — if there was_ the fact that labour at the moment — if there was a — the fact that labour at the moment — if there was a election tomorrow, they lose — if there was a election tomorrow, they lose their seats. it's your job. _ they lose their seats. it's your job, i— they lose their seats. it's your job, i get— they lose their seats. it's your job, i get that, but personally a

on the l surface, labour are writing- stop surface, labour are writing— stop their enjoying leads in. they own every single issue in british politics, economy, crime, they are even more popular among brexit voters. the labour party are more popular among people who voted to leave the european union then the conservative party. not some thing i thought i would ever say! on the surface, things look good for labour, but it will be nervous. people will look at rishi sunak and think, this is a different operator. considerably more experience. he had the economy in his control during the economy in his control during the pandemic, he knows the mechanics of government in whitehall and this is all going to lead to this big showdown tomorrow, between keir starmer and rishi sunak, and all eyes will be on that showdown. the conservative party will be looking, wondering if they made the right call, antilabor mps will be looking at keir starmer and saying, ok, going against borisjohnson, going against liz truss, that is one thing — can he maintain that lead, that sense of confidence, against rish

former labour in dire straits right now. former labour party — in dire straits right now.iz truss as now it was going through trauma over europe, funnily enough and whether european union should acquire more power through what was called the parliamentary treaty which had been approved by parliament, john major who was the premise that a torrid time and only did he have mps dying due to crazy by elections run by opposition parties slowly diminishing his majority, but he had mps defecting from both a liberal democrat party which was a smaller opposition party and even to the others. it was a time of political trauma knows a time of political uncertainty knows a time and party loyalty was strained to the limit by those who felt the public interest, the national interest is not being served by the government. john major hung on despite the odds, despite losing his chancellor who was sacked in the chancellor who subsequently accused him of being in office but not in power and he carried on and went into that election and he went out to a terrible defeat for the conservative pa

switching en masse to labour.ent, there has been a lot of bad publicity about the government mini budget, and has been a lot of good publicity off the back of labour's conference. this may be in the best time to take a snapshot of what could happen at a future general election but ultimately polls are a shout —— snapshot in time but ultimately it shows if there was a poll tomorrow, there would be a conservative wipe—out. and what is driving at? a mini budget. the cut in the basic rate etc will be popular but removing the bankers bonus cap, the abolition of the top rate, that is incredibly unpopular, and none of these policies are going to be seen by the public to generate growth which is ultimately what liz truss and the chancellor want them to do, so when the markets reacted as they did and with all of the negative headlines it will naturally lead to conservative voters deserting them and this time going to the labour party. and this time going to the labour pa . ., ., ., _, . party. you are at the conference, wh

what about labour in this?, keeping out of it, sort of letting the conservative party go down the route they're going down, which is obviously an awful lot of turmoil? no, i don't think, there's two things to say about that. i think labour should be attacking, you should always be attacking your opponents when they're weak, and labour should be doing that. but i think one of the reasons has been this sense of a feeling of kind of movement towards labour because actually even though the tories were already in a quite a lot of turmoil at labour's conference, i thought keir had a real sense of confidence, and i thought particularly the green energy thing, i thought he had a sense of there's a different agenda coming here. i want to see more of that agenda, and i think actually keir should be doing more of the kind of the forward policy stuff. you have not got it in the bag, because, yes, you've got the government imploding, but things can change. let's just say that they do get rid of truss and they manage to inst

it is matter if it was tory or labour, rachel, they were _ was tory or labour, rachel, they were both as bad as each other. emit for the last 12 years, we haven't been building enough gas storage facilities and they have closed storage facilities under this government and the previous ones. i think there is a certain amount of responsibility you can lay on the part of the party that has been there for ten years. if we going to blame the last labour government, i am sure we can blame the next one as well. ~ ., ,., , am sure we can blame the next one as well. ~ ., , , well. we have some very differing opinions there. _ well. we have some very differing opinions there. we _ well. we have some very differing opinions there. we love _ well. we have some very differing opinions there. we love healthy . opinions there. we love healthy debate on the show. let's move on now. i don't think we will agree on that. if we cannot, we will go on to the guardian. this paper takes it a step further. the article saying these rolling power cuts. if it were to happen and this was to go ahead, charities ar

— doable, and with energy prices and labour costs going up, where are they going — labour costs goingy framework in place and a fair tax system — framework in place and a fair tax system. looking at business rates, they have — system. looking at business rates, they have to look at the holistic picture — they have to look at the holistic picture of — they have to look at the holistic picture of finance when it comes to recovering — picture of finance when it comes to recovering the economy for small businesses. recovering the economy for small businesses-— businesses. people watching this thinkin: businesses. people watching this thinking that _ businesses. people watching this thinking that business _ businesses. people watching this thinking that business pressures| businesses. people watching this i thinking that business pressures are far removed from their own life, these all feed into staff pay rises, doesn�*t it? bi]! these all feed into staff pay rises, doesn't it? , , ,, , these all feed into staff pay rises, doesn't it?— doesn't it? all businesses want to -a a fair doesn't i

last night the labour party is supported bringing _ night the labour party is supported bringing downorry— want to hear the prime minister, i'm sorry of— want to hear the prime minister, i'm sorry of her— want to hear the prime minister, i'm sorry of her own party does not, but i want _ sorry of her own party does not, but i want to _ sorry of her own party does not, but i want to mr— sorry of her own party does not, but i want to. mr speaker, i am generally— i want to. mr speaker, i am generally unclear... we generally unclear... jeering. we don't want _ generally unclear... jeering. we don't want an _ generally unclear... jeering. we don't want an early _ generally unclear... jeering. we don't want an early bath - generally unclear... jeering. we don't want an early bath at - generally unclear... jeering. we don't want an early bath at this i don't want an early bath at this stage. — don't want an early bath at this stage. the _ don't want an early bath at this stage. the rugby— don't want an early bath at this stage, the rugby world - don't want an early bath at this stage, the rug

how would labour fix that? the spending black hole. how would labour fix that?s come down to the mismanagement of the economy. the reckless approach the conservatives have taken. labourwould be approach the conservatives have taken. labour would be responsible where it comes to the public finances and we would get value for money. unlike rishi sunak who presided over industrial scale levels of fraud and waste when he was chancellor during the pandemic and made no effort to claw back any of that money. and made no effort to claw back any of that money-— of that money. bridget phillipson for labour. _ of that money. bridget phillipson for labour, thank _ of that money. bridget phillipson for labour, thank you _ of that money. bridget phillipson for labour, thank you very - of that money. bridget phillipson for labour, thank you very much. helen catt, our correspondent, is in central lobby in the palace of westminster. i central lobby in the palace of westminster.— central lobby in the palace of westminster. . . ., westminster. i am and i have with me somebody who

have over— that not only is the gap that labour have over the conservatives growing, it also _ havehows the underlying data is painting a — it also shows the underlying data is painting a very negative picture for the government ahead of their own party— the government ahead of their own party conference, when it comes to questions _ party conference, when it comes to questions like leadership, who would make _ questions like leadership, who would make the _ questions like leadership, who would make the best prime minister, who would _ make the best prime minister, who would be _ make the best prime minister, who would be the best to handle the economy, — would be the best to handle the economy, it is labour who wins time and again. _ economy, it is labour who wins time and again, they also win out in lots of demographic groups, including not 'ust of demographic groups, including not just those _ of demographic groups, including not just those seats gained at the last election— just those seats gained at the last election by the conservatives but also those seats held by conservativ

labour party around 30% ahead, which ism it's_ labour party around 30% ahead, which ism it's really—ich is... it's really huge, i mean, this is... it's really huge, i mean, this is really. — is... it's really huge, i mean, this is really, really significant and of course, — is really, really significant and of course, li2— is really, really significant and of course, liz truss' own personal ratings — course, liz truss' own personal ratings were historically low and meanwhile, the real concern to the public— meanwhile, the real concern to the public is _ meanwhile, the real concern to the public is the — meanwhile, the real concern to the public is the economy. it is all of these _ public is the economy. it is all of these public sector issues. not a leadership campaign.— these public sector issues. not a leadership campaign. have you ever seen anything _ leadership campaign. have you ever seen anything like _ leadership campaign. have you ever seen anything like it, _ leadership campaign. have you ever seen anything like it, that _ leadership campaign. have you ever seen anything lik

and as for what labour make of it. the mini - what labour make of it.et showed _ what labour make of it. the mini budget showed what _ what labour make of it. the mini budget showed what their - what labour make of it. the mini | budget showed what their instinct were, it was to cut task force the wealthiest in society, paid for by borrowing which in the end, current and future taxpayers will have to pay for. and future taxpayers will have to -a for. ~ , ., pay for. the prime minister and chancellor _ pay for. the prime minister and chancellor have _ pay for. the prime minister and chancellor have binned - pay for. the prime minister and chancellor have binned one - pay for. the prime minister and chancellor have binned one bit| pay for. the prime minister and i chancellor have binned one bit of plans that improved impossible to sell. there is a lot else that may not prove popular either, the prospect of spending cut, benefits cuts and spiralling interest rates which critics will blame on them. and then there are those within the conservative party who

labour seats tumbled. fear on the conservative benches now is that the next time they face the public, those gains will be lost, and perhaps they will also lose seats even in their heartland's, places in southern england that have been tory for as long as those redwall seats have been labour. two election this year. one in the far southwest of england where conservatives have always held that seat, and that went to the liberal democrats by a significant majority. there are warnings that the conservative position is far from secure with the public, and this business of the change of prime minister from boris johnson to liz truss, and then the trauma of her having to abandon her economic policy minister because the markets were no longer prepared lend money to the british government at an affordable rate means conservatives are now confused as to which direction they are going. we are seeing that being played out in the trauma being unveiled today. for more on suella braverman's departure as home secretary,

labour thinks we should be having a general election.one i've spoken to in the public has said we should be having a general election. there is no mandate now. he having a general election. there is no mandate now.— having a general election. there is no mandate now. he should call an early general _ no mandate now. he should call an early general election. _ no mandate now. he should call an early general election. he - no mandate now. he should call an early general election. he is - no mandate now. he should call an early general election. he is the i early general election. he is the second — early general election. he is the second person in a row to be appointed as prime minister by tories, — appointed as prime minister by tories, not elected by the population. mr tories, not elected by the pepulation-_ tories, not elected by the --oulation. ~ ,, ., , .,, population. mr sunak's rapid advances _ population. mr sunak's rapid advances a _ population. mr sunak's rapid advances a significant - population. mr sunak's rapid l advances a s

labour party to take over the order -a er. , ., labour party to take over the order --aer. , . ., labour vote for any change in the rules on the triple lock on pension, so it sounds like you would potentially vote against your party leader the prime minister on that but not on fracking? prime minister on that but not on frackin: ? �* .., , prime minister on that but not on frackin: ? �* .. , ., prime minister on that but not on frackin. ? �* .. , ., ., ,., prime minister on that but not on frackin. ? �* , ., ., ., fracking? because what labour want to do, is basically _ fracking? because what labour want to do, is basically put _ fracking? because what labour want to do, is basically put themselves i to do, is basically put themselves in government and take over control of the order paper, that is something i would be surs priced if any conservative mp were not going to vote to allow the labour party to do that. would labour be trying to do this, hand on heart, do you think they would be trying to do this mr double, if we hadn'tjust had the last few weeks, a rough few weeks for liz truss

record _ question and challenge labour's record in— question and challenge labour's record in chargenhs performances in wales was worse than anywhere else in the uk. theres— worse than anywhere else in the uk. there's likely to be riles if there are cuts— there's likely to be riles if there are cuts to _ there's likely to be riles if there are cuts to come. the welsh government has already started claiming — government has already started claiming that it's a lack of uk government funding that's stopping it from _ government funding that's stopping it from achieving everything it wants — it from achieving everything it wants to _ it from achieving everything it wants to do. those tensions can only increase _ wants to do. those tensions can only increase closer to a general election _ increase closer to a general election-— increase closer to a general election. ~ , ,, ., ,, election. well, when rishi sunak takes over _ election. well, when rishi sunak takes over as _ election. well, when rishi sunak takes over as head _ election. well, when rishi sunak takes over as head of— election

do you think labour have a leg to - think labour have a leg to sunderland at the moment?g that late we haven't got enough detailfrom labour. will there be rises in tax? will there be cuts in tax? will they be spending cuts? labour have not answered some of those big questions on what you would do if you are in government. this is a question that is asked of us all the time. the first thing is, the government have refused to produce any document that shows any of the figures of the consequences of the figures of the consequences of the figures of the consequences of the decisions they made in government over the last three years, let alone in this mini budget. untilwe years, let alone in this mini budget. until we see those, we are not meant to make anyjudgments on the fact of what our spending and losses cuts will be. if they produce the shadow budgetjust a few months ago, you would be right to be asking me questions about that shadowed the budget. but it would be out of date in the moment it was public because of the upheaval in this government. they go right to the hard

targeting both main parties of westminster, the snp have labour of westminster, the snp have labour insaid he would not be lumped in with the conservatives about the issues on brexits. the reality is the choice the next election is going to be _ a uk tory government that has| deliberately been picking fights with the european union in order l to cover for their own failures i and fight the culture wars i or a uk labour government that is proactively willing to work with european and the _ national interest. nicola sturgeon will address delegates here at conference tomorrow afternoon. a chance to rally the troops ahead of that all—important supreme court hearing. a former scottish judge at the court said today "that result could come within weeks." andrew kerr, bbc news. well as conservative mp�*s prepare to return to westminster after the conference season — let's discuss what might lie ahead for the government. joining us is laurren mcevatt who's a former conservative special adviser to the wales office. a former conservative special let's a former conservative special start first of

why does this leave labour?es are calling for a general election. they say the chaos we have seen means there is a moral case for a new government to be elected ahead of time and for whoever is leader to make that happen. but there are questions for labour at the moment about what they would do if they won power. they were forced into some tax policy announcements during the conservative party conference, excuse me, the labour party conference, in the aftermath of the mini—budget when those sweeping tax cuts that had to be backtracked on, sir keir starmer not been drawn on labour's economic policy in the detail of that this morning. whoever comes in as prime minister, we need that obr report because we all need to see the extent of the damage. what i've said from a labour party point of view, i know there are going to be tough choices. i said that three weeks ago. i said it last week again. tough choices which mean we can't do some of the things we wanted to do as an incoming labour government as quickly as we w

there is an alternative — - a stable labour government.are entitled to a say in this, and you've been out. and about, a lot of people coming up to me and saying, we _ can't go on like this. this is embarrassing. we do need to do something about it and shuffling the next one _ in at the top of the tory party for another experiment - is not the way forward. the thing is, you know we live in a parliamentary democracy and if a prime minister can command the majority of the house of commons they have a constitutional right to serve until the parliamentary term runs out. well, yes. but we are in unprecedented times. we have not been through a change of prime minister like this— ever in our history. change of personnel- at the top of the tory party. none of the government functions can actually operate _ because the personnel. are changing so quickly. and, you know, we really are seeing damage done to the economy. - in end it boils down to this, doesn't it? | for tory mps, do they put their party first or do - they put the country first? and if t

— label this vote on fracking, because labour tav— label this vote on fracking, because labour lay down motion — england... labour lay down this motion which was intended to argue that there _ motion which was intended to argue that there should be a vote on whether— that there should be a vote on whether or not to ban fracking. that places _ whether or not to ban fracking. that places a _ whether or not to ban fracking. that places a lot — whether or not to ban fracking. that places a lot of mps in a difficult position— places a lot of mps in a difficult position because they've previously stated _ position because they've previously stated that they oppose the practice. that includes backbenchers, ministers, cabinet ministers — backbenchers, ministers, cabinet ministers as well. as the day wore on, ministers as well. as the day wore on. we _ ministers as well. as the day wore on, we started to get hints from tory— on, we started to get hints from tory mps. — on, we started to get hints from tory mps, including the government's net zero _ tory mps, including the government's net zero t

government— would be a disaster to have a labour government now _ would be a disaster to have a labourt now. oh, my god. but it had an each seat _ government now. oh, my god. but it had an each seat majority. i government now. oh, my god. but it had an each seat majority. he i government now. oh, my god. but it had an each seat majority. he was i had an each seat majority. he was ready— had an each seat majority. he was ready guy— had an each seat majority. he was ready guy at — had an each seat majority. he was ready guy at the _ had an each seat majority. he was ready guy at the helm i had an each seat majority. he was ready guy at the helm with i had an each seat majority. he was ready guy at the helm with rishi i ready guy at the helm with rishi sunak— ready guy at the helm with rishi sunak as — ready guy at the helm with rishi sunak as chancellor. i ready guy at the helm with rishi sunak as chancellor. yesterday, ready guy at the helm with rishi i sunak as chancellor. yesterday, i was watching _ sunak as chancellor. yesterday, i was watching all— sunak as chancellor. yesterday, i

that is a problem for labour _ uncomfortable situation.uation. that is a | problem for labour as well, who at the moment, are in this opposition having, because they can just attack what is a very, wide open goal in terms of tory chaos, but if they came to power, they got to deal with this, and what would they do? malo absolutely, they have to deal with it, it is a terrible economic legacy to inherit. there is no question. they feel like they are in heaven but politically, lots of chaos, lots of open goals, but some would say that they feel that they have had an open goal for 12 months that they feel that they have had an open goalfor12 months now and it feels like the conservatives are losing this whole situation, rather than labour winning it, but at the moment they arejust than labour winning it, but at the moment they are just sitting back and letting it roll, because the conservatives have done a pretty good job of destroying themselves. there is this coverage of 90% of schools running out of cash, nine out of ten head teachers saying

party which is ahead _ be facing a labour party which is ahead in— be facing a labour party which isarty is good at usually. _ conservative party is good at usually, it's clinging to power, and ithink— usually, it's clinging to power, and i think we — usually, it's clinging to power, and i think we will see those survival instincts — i think we will see those survival instincts kick in, the closer we get to the _ instincts kick in, the closer we get to the next— instincts kick in, the closer we get to the next election.— to the next election. good to talk to the next election. good to talk to ou. to you. so, liz truss saying they're in her resignation speech just 44 days in office as prime minister, that she had not been able to deliver the mandate on which she had been elected, to lead the party to become prime minister. sojust elected, to lead the party to become prime minister. so just 44 days in office. the election campaign to become leader longer than her period as pm. joining me now is kirsten oswald, snp mp. thank you for joining me. first, give us your thoughts... i'm going

— that they had a massive lead over labour amongst mortgage holders and yet if you _ labour amongst mortgagentally you will come across as hideously unfair and if liz truss thinks _ as hideously unfair and if liz truss thinks this— as hideously unfair and if liz truss thinks this is her argument what she seems _ thinks this is her argument what she seems to— thinks this is her argument what she seems to be — thinks this is her argument what she seems to be missing out on as any kind of— seems to be missing out on as any kind of compassion she has understood why people might be feeling _ understood why people might be feeling uncomfortable about the policies — feeling uncomfortable about the policies announced in the budget so she has— policies announced in the budget so she has put— policies announced in the budget so she has put out half hot argument but that— she has put out half hot argument but that doesn't seem to be any understanding of what had critics are arguing. understanding of what had critics are arguing-— understanding of what had critics are arruuin. ~ , ., ., ., are arguing.

the argument the labour pa is herself. the argument the labour party is making — herself.or our special coverage of events in westminster, where the new chancellorjeremy hunt will be addressing mps in the house of commons about his decision, announced this morning, to scrap almost all of the key measures announced by his predecessor, kwasi kwarteng, in last

look at where labour are in the opinion— look at where labour are in the opinion polls.hat. but we should make the point you only have to look— should make the point you only have to look to _ should make the point you only have to look to recent history, gordon brown _ to look to recent history, gordon brown became prime minister through an election. _ brown became prime minister through an election, so did theresa may, so did boris— an election, so did theresa may, so did borisjohnson, so that liz truss and so _ did borisjohnson, so that liz truss and so did — did borisjohnson, so that liz truss and so did rishi sunak. theresa may and so did rishi sunak. theresa may and boris _ and so did rishi sunak. theresa may and borisjohnson both and fought elections — and borisjohnson both and fought elections and won. the others didn't~ — elections and won. the others didn't. there is plenty of modern presidents — didn't. there is plenty of modern presidents were offices resumed between — presidents were offices resumed between elections. that does not mean _ between elections.