education secretary, bridget phillipson. expect some fireworks with that. welcome back. labour'sousing and planning minister, matthew pennycook joins me now. good morning, minister. thank you very much indeed forjoining me on gb news. can we talk about andrew gwynne? and i do think the prime minister deserves credit for immediately sacking him from government and suspending him over these extraordinary whatsapp messages. but my question is , genuinely, but my question is, genuinely, should any mp who messages dear resident f your bins, i'm re—elected and without your vote, screw you. ps hopefully you'll have croaked it by the all outs which mean the local elections. should that person be able to remain in parliament at all? he shouldn't be able to continue to be an mp, labour independent or anything. >> well, you're absolutely right camilla. the comments made by andrew gwynne are completely unacceptable and i appreciate you giving credit to the prime minister for acting decisively as he has. he's been very clear since the time we entered office that this is going to be a governme

fundamental point here is to drive up the standard of education for children, and that means having a competitive school system, which i think the labourault. yeah, it means having incentives in place that schools will want to achieve that, that that high outcome now, i think are the great headteachers i've known in the course of my political career. and they don't really need they don't need driving forward because they know what their job is and they are, you know, they tend to naturally deliver outstanding schools, but they're just bound to be places in the country where people won't do what needs to be done unless there's an incentive to get there. so i'm really worried that this change in sort of softening it for everyone will take out the incentives which are necessary. so that's why i say, although one needs to take the suicide very take it very seriously, it can't be allowed to put in place institutions which end up diminishing the quality of education. >> can i ask you, steve, then? because i've not and this is not a gotcha or anything. i'm genuinely intrigued. i haven't got any kids. it's not something i've given great though

headteacher, katharine birbalsingh, following the publication of a very hard hitting open letter to labour education secretary bridget phillipson. we'll be hearing her views about what is going wrong in our education system. and as donald trump is busy tearing up the international liberal consensus, i'll be speaking to world leading geopolitics expert ed husain about trump's controversial plans for the middle east. plus, as the bank of england cuts interest rates, its new report spells out an alarming forecast for the year ahead as the government faces a growing crisis of confidence. that's state of the nation tonight with me, matt goodwin starts right now. now i'll also be joined tonight by my top panel founder of novara media, aaron bastani and political commentator charlie downs. as ever, let me know your views at gbnews.com/yoursay and hit me up on x at goodwin mj. now it's time for the news bulletin with mark white. >> good evening. the latest headunes >> good evening. the latest headlines from the gb news centre . conservative leader kemi centre. conservative leader kemi badenoch has criticise

starmer is being accused of fudging the facts about his education by the founder of social mobility charity the sutton trust, sir peter lampl claims the laboureader pretends that reigate grammar was a state school when it became private. during his time there, he argues the government's plan to tax private school fees is regressive, and is warning it will deprive children of key opportunities. but a government spokesperson says the tax will bring an estimated £1.7 billion a year for state schools and improve standards and hiring of more teachers. and a breaking update on the situation in the middle east. hamas and israel have now exchanged more hostages and prisoners today, in the fourth swap of a fragile ceasefire ongoing in gaza. in tel aviv, earlier supporters were seen clapping and throwing their handsin clapping and throwing their hands in the air as they watched. the last of three hostages crossed the border into israel this morning. meanwhile, in exchange, 182 palestinian prisoners are currently being freed. buses carrying those released palestinian prisoners from israeli prisons have just in the last few minutes, arrived in the last