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i'm not saying it's a labour government or any government.nment who are basically making the rules and the suspicion out there is that people are just essentially just going to promote the views that they think are acceptable and de—platform effectively cancel the views that they don't agree with. and that's the suspicion. and that gets to a very dangerous place, because essentially you're bringing in censorship, and it is a form of control that is used in totalitarian dictatorships. and that's the thin edge of the wedge. i'm not saying we're going down that route, but look at a rate of knots, inconsistencies and double standards, frankly, in all parties. >> you know, the tory party is in favour of free speech and open platforms until it's someone that they disagree with. then who did they disagree? >> who did we cancel? >> who did we cancel? >> well, well, you know, the strong campaign that anyone and i disagreed with them. but chanting pro—palestinian slogans on a demonstration, that was an incitement. >> i mean the issue there that you the

haste paymasters were benefiting from this labour government. . ._ labour government... been reading our— labour government... have you not been reading our inbox? _ been reading our inbox? that's likely to appoint our viewer wrote to us about, kevin newton, got in touch about winter fuel payments i spoke to him most other by asking him if he had written to his mp as well. �* ., ~:: ., , well. i've written over 60 e-mails to my local— well. i've written over 60 e-mails to my local mp. _ well. i've written over 60 e-mails to my local mp, pat _ well. i've written over 60 e-mails to my local mp, pat mcfadden . well. i've written over 60 e-mails| to my local mp, pat mcfadden and well. i've written over 60 e-mails - to my local mp, pat mcfadden and he hasn't even had the decency to return one e—mail to me. you see, i've got probably younger viewers who never get any help in their flat share. is it you are angry because you have worked all your life or do you think everyone is suffering? it is also, can i say, that it may have a drastic effect everyone that is just above the t

to maintain minimum service levels during public sector strikes is set to be abandoned by the labour government. what will this mean for the safety of you and me.7 and labour has also reversed more tory plans to cut 66,000 civil service jobs. this is despite chancellor rachel reeves instructing departments to find £3 billion worth of savings . £3 billion worth of savings. get in touch with your thoughts on tonight's topics by visiting gbnews.com forward slash your say but first, here's the news with sophia wenzler. >> chris thank you. good evening. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . the prime the gb newsroom. the prime minister is warning those inciting violence across england could face prison time following a weekend of unrest during this morning's emergency cobra meeting, sir keir starmer has promised additional police resources are being deployed nationwide in relation to the police. >> i am absolutely clear that we will have the officers we need where we need them to deal with this disorder and that is why the standing army has been set up. specialist officers ready to be deployed to

what do unions want in return for their money. >> they they want a labour government. s why they fund labour election campaigns. i mean it averages at nine grand per elected mp. and let's just let's look at what a union is a unions are associations of millions of ordinary working people, generally not very rich people, generally not very rich people, just ordinary working people, just ordinary working people who explicitly opt in to contribute a little bit of the subs they pay for political campaigning for uses exactly like this. and it's very highly regulated and it's completely transparent. so those labour mps get an average of nine k each from these associations of workers who choose to do this with their hard earned cash, you will be hard pressed to find a tory mp who didn't get a lot more than nine k during the election campaign, from all kinds of people that nobody's asking any questions about just because they don't happen to be trade unions. >> if a company boss gives 9000 or £20,000, because of course money comes from all over the place, is that different? a co

but i think underpinning what the labour government is doing i think will enhance our productivity., more studies on the impact it has on people's health. but the evidence i think is mounting that if people are allowed to work flexibly, whatever option, it might notjust be the short compressed week, they will be more productive, morejob week, they will be more productive, more job satisfied, week, they will be more productive, morejob satisfied, and week, they will be more productive, more job satisfied, and very important, in a skills situation, skills deficit situation we are in now, the employer will be able to retain employees more because the millennials and the young millennials and the young millennials and the z generation, they want more flexible working. the four—day compressed week is only one option but it is certainly an option that should be on the table. professor, essentially, sounds like you are saying this could have a positive impact on productivity. you would not lose productivity at the least. i wonder what your view is on the health and tax. you mentioned there

bill rammell does the labour government have any choice here apart from to release these prisoners early er, bluntly, no, i mean we can have a debate about how much of the legacy that labour has inherited is the responsibility of the last government. but this is emphatically the tories problem . sunak was repeatedly problem. sunak was repeatedly told by his justice secretary, alex chalk, that he had a choice. he either overrode local objections and built more prison places, or he agreed to early release. he shamefully did neither and said let the labour party deal with it when they come to power. it's also the case that we had to tackle the riots by early trials and early sentencing. bluntly that was the only way we were going to stop the riots and we did it effectively. so we've had to agree to this . but there are agree to this. but there are safeguards in place that i think can give the public reassurance. >> michael brown, though, you've got maybe some violent thugs being released next month and people being banged up for tweeting or putting remarks on facebook that they say they reg

this labour government has revealed its true colours of cronyism since 2019. senior labour politicians, now in the cabinet, collectively received nearly half £1 million in campaign donations from the unions. wes streeting, the health secretary, received more than £14,000 in support from unions since 2019. louise hague, the transport secretary, has received more than £24,000. the home secretary, yvette cooper , home secretary, yvette cooper, and the education secretary, bridget phillipson, have received donations to. in fact, of the more than 400 labour mps, more than half of them took money in cash or kind since the election was called, which totalled nearly £2 million. now you may wonder why does this matter? political parties take donations from various institutions all the time, and it's surely better that they're funded by outsiders rather than by you, the taxpayer. but since the labour party has got into office, what has it been up to since the 4th of july? well, it's been taking money from tory voters and giving it to labour voters, especially in the publ

the labour government is set to scrap anti—strike laws in what will be described, what is described ast for workers rights. tomorrow the government will remove what it calls unnecessary restrictions on trade union activity and simplify the process for workers to organise strikes and protests. but is this necessary to end the cycle of strikes of chaos in our workplaces, or is labour caving to in trade union demands? joining me now is trade unionist and author paul embry. paul unionist and author paul embry. paul, thank you for joining me tonight on gbn tonight. great to see you. hi, christopher. is this the white flag in the face of threats of strikes from pubuc of threats of strikes from public sector workers ? public sector workers? >> i think it's absolutely the right move actually by the labour government. i think that the minimum service levels act was an unethical piece of legislation. i think it was an unworkable piece of legislation. i think it was ultimately an attempt to ban strikes in certain industries and services by the back door when the government didn't have the guts to

i am very proud that not only did the labour government stand up to, our police across the country reacted said as a country, there is no place for hate or racism our society. but it speaks to a broader breakdown in public services where many of our prisons are full up and you have to take drastic decisions. when our justice system in many system has ground to a halt or is running at a snail�*s pace, this does speak to breakdown and these other issues which need fixed.— breakdown and these other issues which need fixed. jonathan ashworth, thank ou which need fixed. jonathan ashworth, thank you very _ which need fixed. jonathan ashworth, thank you very much _ which need fixed. jonathan ashworth, thank you very much for _ which need fixed. jonathan ashworth, thank you very much for talking - which need fixed. jonathan ashworth, thank you very much for talking to - thank you very much for talking to us. a line breaking news from the metropolitan police coming from the pa news agency. three men have been arrested in relation to the stabbing of a 32—year—old woman at the notting hill carnival w

the labour government _ you like that option? the labour government said _ you like that option? government said in _ you like that option? the labour government said in the - you like that option? the labour government said in the first - you like that option? the labour- government said in the first hundred days they were rescind anti—trade union regulations. we have had 30 years, we have been denied the right to strike, a basic human right. we expect the labour government to reinstate our right to strike, like the scottish government did in 2015 for the scottish prison service. let's speak to some callers. what do you have to say, will, you run a prison charity, thank you for getting in touch. how do we solve the prison crisis?— getting in touch. how do we solve the prison crisis? good morning. a massive question. _ the prison crisis? good morning. a massive question. i— the prison crisis? good morning. a massive question. i have _ the prison crisis? good morning. a massive question. i have not - massive question. i have not listened _ massive question. i have not listened to

and at the moment, millions of people do not feel safe in their own country under either the labour governmentr the preceding conservative governments . the elite class governments. the elite class generally have failed on all of these issues, and that is why people are so frustrated. >> and that was, i think, the point that adrian is making, that people have almost disconnected because i think we had one of the lowest turnouts in god knows how many years i was going to say a century, but i don't know if it was that long. >> at the last general election, we've got a government elected with about 20% of the national vote collectively, which is not that great. many of you watching perhaps would have voted for reform. and did you see the protests this weekend if you didn't see them ? luckily for didn't see them? luckily for you, i've got some footage of it. take a look at this. okay. it's coming. hold that thought. but you will have seen some of these scenes. i'll show them to you. >> i know i know. >> i know i know. >> let me respond to matthew because, you know, he he hadn't said anything yet.

labour government, worse than any of us could have ever feared.et something clear about the term far right. according to keir starmer and his labour government, anyone to the right of karl marx and lenin are considered far right. i mean, if thinking that we should have secure borders , if have secure borders, if believing that violent criminals should be in jail , if believing should be in jail, if believing that we should have a coherent immigration policy. if believing that we should be prioritising, you know, the government of the united kingdom should put citizens of the united kingdom ahead of citizens of foreign countries. if these are now to be considered far right, then god help us all. the reality is, what we're seeing in europe is a large number of people in the european populous waking up to the fact that totally uncontrolled mass migration , uncontrolled mass migration, catastrophic population explosion, and being incapable to build infrastructure to deal with it, seeing cultures like german culture, like french culture, essentially di

it's not just the handling of the riots , but also that the labour riots, but also that the labour government, perhaps people voted against the tories and have only now just realised that they voted for the labour party. >> yes. and taking away the winter fuel allowance probably came as a shock to some of you at least. anyway, let us know gbnews.com/yoursay get your thoughts coming in, but let's get the news headlines with sam francis . francis. >> very good afternoon to you. it's just after 12:00. and the top story this lunchtime. well, it's breaking news from sicily that one person has died. six still missing after a luxury yacht sank off the coast of palermo when it was struck by a tornado at sunrise. the british registered 56 metre bayocean, had 22 people on board, including 12 passengers, ten crew. they were british, american and canadian nationals. 15 survivors, including a one year old child , were rescued and year old child, were rescued and are now in a stable condition. meanwhile, divers are still combing the waters as search efforts continue around the wreck. a warning for those wa

when will this labour government get its priorities straight? oughts on my panel columnist and political commentator as well. patrick o'flynn. former london mayoral candidate susan hall. we also have ex—labour party adviser matthew lazer. and look, susan, i'll come to you first just because you were you were in that clip there. so i think it's only only right. really, when you look at what's going on now and there's two very stark cases, this is just today where you've got that guy who is a child rapist who's broken the terms of his, of his licence, essentially swerving jail. the judge explicitly saying, because prisons are too busy, you've got a guy there who's killed someone or been involved in the killing of someone being released early, but social media users getting a knock on the door from police. what do you think we're going wrong here or not? >> well, we all know we're going wrong. this cannot be right. nobody thinks this is right. i mean, we are talking about two tier policing now, but what faith does anybody have in the judiciary now?

the blame was put fair and square on the previous labour government. de economic crisis to deal with, but the coalition government and the conservatives capitalised on blaming labour for many, many years. and i think now we're going to have the same thing on the other side of the fence, with labour blaming the conservatives at each and every opportunity and the decisions that are coming, which it sounds are going to be very painful, are going to be very painful, are all going to be blamed on the conservatives. and i think the conservatives. and i think the fact that they were in the rose garden, you know, not missing an opportunity to have a dig there, the scene of the crime, if you like, in terms of dominic cummings with that non—apology after he'd driven up to durham in the height of the covid lockdown, then sat in the rose garden and famously didn't apologise , pointing out the apologise, pointing out the parties that had happened in downing street. but you know, this government has a huge majority, but it was a very sobering press conference and qui

i do mean and frankly, by that i do mean wealth creation is the number one priority of this labour government . government. >> in other news, the ministry of justice has confirmed that only 100 spaces are left in male prisons in england and wales. it comes as the number of people sent to prison has reached record levels. in july, the government set out legislation to reduce the amount of time inmates must spend in jail before they're automatically released from 50% of their sentence to 40% in a bid to manage overcrowding, a ministry of justice spokesperson has said. the new government inherited a justice system in crisis and has been forced into taking difficult but necessary action to ensure we can keep locking up dangerous criminals and protect the public. a man has been charged with murder after officers stopped him at notting hill carnival. detectives had issued an appeal to locate kamaal williams, who was wanted in connection with the fatal stabbing of a 53 year old man. he'll appear in court tomorrow and that's as three men have been arrested over the stabbing of a 32 year old mother at

labour government. but this. labour government. but this throws all of that out of the picture. tough for labour. the other thing, of course, which i think you mentioned a little bit earlier, is the spotlight . it's earlier, is the spotlight. it's going to throw on labour's green energy plans. you could argue that because ed miliband in particular is racing. so quickly towards net zero, it's ending up putting energy prices up for ordinary people. and that is what claire coutinho, the shadow energy secretary, has argued this morning. so this is going to be a real headache for the new government on lots and lots of different fronts. >> it absolutely is going to be a headache. and as you know, the gb energy, it might sound like a nice idea. it might be quite popular when people are polled about it, but what people really want is cheaper energy bills. they don't necessarily mind where it's coming from . yeah, where it's coming from. yeah, they'd prefer greener energy supplies, of course, but if those numbers don't go down in their bills, then it's, you know, it's another thing, isn'

this is a deeply unpopular government and i think it will become less popular over time. >> a huge majority, but a fragile one. not that many people actually did vote labournately. agreed. >> but let's let's try a different question, which is why is it moving in the wrong direction and so quickly? because i think it's very interesting with this government, what they've done with all of the pay awards that we've been discussing, the conservative party and people on the right generally think that the right generally think that the labour party and people on the labour party and people on the left generally are misguided, whereas they think we're evil. so they spent the time in opposition saying, oh, this government business, it's really easy. just press the do right button and then it'll all be fixed. if you just press that. that's what we'll do when we get in. then they get in and they find there isn't a do right button. they find. in fact, the government is quite complicated and difficult. and if you just give people what the unions wanted, which is or approximating what the unions wanted, or far further than the government wanted to, then it has all mann

and i don't just mean the labour government, i mean government in general.is a huge problem. now i don't have the answer to how that is resolved. and it certainly won't be resolved in a day, but i think thatis resolved in a day, but i think that is part of the context here. >> and part of that is to clarify what jess phillips has said and to make it clear that, as i was saying earlier, that i think the prime minister should now say, actually, he regrets taking the knee, that that would make it clear that he didn't endorse the violence that was going on. >> but i think, again, i think that's with sort of that is misplaced because i don't think there is a direct causal link to what we're talking about. i understand what you're saying, but what we're talking about today stemmed the trigger for the last week's worth of protest was this horrific incident in southport . and we're sort of southport. and we're sort of making leaps and bounds. and now we're talking about blm, and i don't think it is about blm or taking the knee. >> the one thing we can finish on and

so i don't care whether it's a labour government or a tory government who are putting their people, if who are putting their people, if that is what has happened into civil service jobs, then i will call it out. what i've said is that there doesn't seem to be any evidence so far that the ministerial code has been broken. >> don't you think, matthew? this job should have been advertised for people to apply for you. maybe you would apply for you. maybe you would apply for the job or henry. surely it should be advertised out there in the big wide world. i'm a believer in transparency when it comes to public service jobs. >> i think jobs should be advertised and advertised beyond either internal or or indeed given to people , to, to friends, given to people, to, to friends, or to or to supporters , if that or to or to supporters, if that is what has happened. >> matthew, if i may , even if >> matthew, if i may, even if there is no sort of foul play or no no sort of intention behind this, apart from to appoint the best person from for the the job. how does this look? it looks appalling. and

but for me and i voted labour, i broadly supportive of this labour government. we may see throughout the programme, i'll criticise them where i think they should be criticised. for me, the idea that the leader of the labour party is someone who then becomes prime minister is given money specifically for his clothes by a major donor. for me, i find it uncomfortable. it's not wrong, but i think actually your your word there. it's a bit weird. >> you may be consistent in your argument here, but is it consistent of sir keir starmer, who is a self—proclaimed socialist? >> it's not obviously the personal practice of socialism, is it, to take £16,000 from a multi—millionaire to tart up your wardrobe? not obviously not. not obviously the greatest exemplification of socialism. so i was defending keir starmer's actual activity from a completely non—socialist perspective. i think if sir keir starmer wants to be and profess to be a socialist, he should probably be somewhat more hair shirted. >> it is all a rather bizarre, but i will take you up on the sort of blase response

government was to right to settle the disputes. >> yes, it's a mixed picture. it's certainly a mixed picture. a lot of people concerned that these pay offers simply aren't affordable. some people saying labourey think the deals would make future strikes more likely. i think there is a concern, though, that the government have been too quick to give in to some of these pay demands , and some of these pay demands, and therefore that might make some of the union bosses or union members feel like every time they want something, they can just say, we're going to go on strike. and labour will just instantly give in. and you have to think the history, the history of the labour party and the history of labour governments is that we disagree with the trade unions from time to time and that will be the reality going forward. >> and there is no blank check, nothing to worry about. no, i'm nothing to worry about. no, i'm not saying there's nothing to worry about, but you know, you've got to handle this responsibly. and i think that's what the government has been doing. and the imperative was to get the country moving again. okay >> we're going to have to leave that there. but coming up, i'll come back

plenty of money to be saved by the labour government. they going after those who work the hardest. >> well , i who work the hardest. >> well, i just think that what's going on at the moment is absolutely insane. so we just obviously watched that video, and those people are in the middle of where, you know, obviously hyde park is and they're not being moved on. i don't understand why they're actually able to stay there. >> i think tfl , who owns the >> i think tfl, who owns the land transport for london, they are applying to get them kicked off. yeah. >> but it's been a while. they've been there for a very long time. >> they have. yeah i mentioned it. i drive past it every day. so do many other gb news presenters and contributors. and week after week it seems like there's maybe one more tent this week and then the next week. wow. >> it's insane. and it's hard to, well, you can't really see which ones are because, like you asked them, where are they from? who are uk citizens and who are obviously from overseas. so it's kind of like a bundl

and yougov polling has also revealed that only 23% approve of the labour government, so far. vernment in 2017, but not quite as low as the final throes of rishi sunak's tenure . throes of rishi sunak's tenure. and he hasn't even raised taxes yet. and he hasn't got an opposition. and parliament isn't sitting . so are things already sitting. so are things already beginning to unravel for keir starmer? i'm joined now by conservative mp greg smith . conservative mp greg smith. greg, thank you very much. so i mean it's all gone a bit pete tong for keir hasn't it. >> yeah it's even surprised me how quickly the wheels seem to be coming off this labour government. but i mean we were all staggered that almost the first thing they did was mess around with pensioners taking away the winter fuel allowance . away the winter fuel allowance. we were then having to pick our jaws up off the floor as they offered these eye—watering pay rises to please their trade union masters. then they managed to get themselves embroiled in a scandal in downing street around labour donors getting passes . lab

but first, the rail unions, they're reportedly ready to quote cash in now on a limp labour governmentmanding double digit pay hikes. but will starmer have the backbone to stand up to them ? backbone to stand up to them? former transport minister kevin foster takes on former labour mp shaun simon and that's next. tuned welcome back to patrick christys tonight. we're only on gb news now. we're going to be keeping you right up to date with this. that's going on in birmingham as we speak. so this is scenes outside a pub reportedly in birmingham , where it appears birmingham, where it appears that gangs of asian men have have massed. there was also an incident in the area as well on a roundabout. be interesting to see whether or not we get much political reaction to this, won't it? but in other news, coming up, as a transgender civil servant's choice of work clothing causes a storm. should you be allowed to wear fetish gear at work? yes, that is a serious question. but first, does sir keir starmer have the backbone to stand up to britain's militant trade unions? it's time for tonight's hea

and that's the that's the choice that's the that's the choice that this labour government has made inbeing in government. and, you know, yes , further tax rises ahead. we yes, further tax rises ahead. we agree there are going to be further tax rises, whether that's capital gains tax taxes to people's pensions, inheritance tax, which is a terribly unpopular tax across this country. you know, these are the things that are going to happen. and then you've got to look at labour in wales. what what have they done. they've lifted everyone's council tax too. so i think there's a lot of tax rises ahead. and that's going to fund not only these wage bill increases but more . wage bill increases but more. and of course inflation has risen as part of this. so you know all that hard work to get inflation down to keep prices down for people across this country who are working hard, who are trying to do everything possible to keep you know, to make ends meet, this is a big problem. >> and matthew, very briefly, do you think a lot of people who with long memories, they look back to the days of the 19

government? look, in opposition, labour—mack was demanding that the conservative government publish — the conservative advice. it's up to 12 _ publish the legal advice. it's up to 12 days of not publishing that advice they criticised david _ that advice they criticised david cameron for not publishing it. labour have been in power— publishing it. labour have been in power for over 50 days, they have _ in power for over 50 days, they have hot— in power for over 50 days, they have not stopped the arms sales. _ have not stopped the arms sales, they think the international criminal court or breest— international criminal court or breast warrants for war crimes is not — breast warrants for war crimes is not a — breast warrants for war crimes is not a basis to suspend arms going — is not a basis to suspend arms going into _ is not a basis to suspend arms going into that. the international court ofjustice investigating genocide is not because enough. an illegal occupation of the west bank which — occupation of the west bank which is _ occupation of the west bank which is 57 years long it is not — which is 57

and the whole labour government., of their rule, they're not actually responsible for what's happened to lead it in the lead up to these riots. i mean, certainly they could have handled the some things better, but really, the seeds of the this, upset has been sown a long time ago. so i think they will be very shocked at the kind of, of what government means and the responsibility they have. and certainly i think a holiday is a probably a good idea. >> yeah, i mean, you know, more than anyone else, as a former mp , than anyone else, as a former mp, i could perhaps envision a scenario in a year's time or something when his popularity, i mean, that daily telegraph poll tonight showing that his popularity has gone down again in the wake of the riots. i could maybe predict at a guess, there could be some sort of conservative style coup going on, you know, the infighting will start, but it remains to be seen. miriam cates, thank you for joining me tonight and forjoining me tonight and hopefully see you soon. thanks, ben. l

the labour government has said it's going is going to push ahead with reforming that act.hink one of the questions and the challenges for the labour government and my old colleague and friend wes streeting, is how reform of the mental health act will deal with people who are a danger to society, a danger to themselves and what the regime is. for sectioning. >> let's move on to another subject. when are you going to stop the boats? >> well, serious? >> well, serious? >> hang on. >> hang on. >> we've had hundreds and thousands since you lot got in. there was hundreds and thousands. >> what are the other lot as well? there were. >> there was a rwanda plan. i know you mocked it, but the first thing you did was cancel it. could you not have even tried to see if it was a deterrent? >> it was a fiasco, andrew. >> it was a fiasco, andrew. >> no, it wasn't a deterrent. you didn't give it a try. >> it costs £700 million and i think only four volunteers. so when are you going to censor more journalists went to rwanda than actual people, who were who came on boat hundred arrived on su

we also have a labour government here that is— have a labour government here that is less sympatheticrnment, what do you think will be the attitude towards those pleas from president zelensky?— those pleas from president zelens ?~ , , zelensky? we support it. those lectures are _ zelensky? we support it. those lectures are that _ zelensky? we support it. those lectures are that it's _ zelensky? we support it. those lectures are that it's once - lectures are that it's once again— lectures are that it's once again because once again, the ukrainians are in the back foot _ ukrainians are in the back foot. we've seen this issue with— foot. we've seen this issue with the _ foot. we've seen this issue with the shadow missiles where the uk — with the shadow missiles where the uk seems to support their use in— the uk seems to support their use in russia, but the us is really— use in russia, but the us is really holding back and is against _ really holding back and is against it. that's what was briefed _ against it. that's what was briefed privately. we saw the same — briefed privately. we saw

how much pressure is the labour government| pressure is the labour government under?ressure is the labour government under? ~ , , under? i think the rising energy rice ca- under? i think the rising energy price cap has — under? i think the rising energy price cap has exacerbated - price cap has exacerbated unhappiness with the translate's decision to end winter fuel payments to pensioners, and i think this pressure they're under gross concern among labour ministers about those pavements. the kind of thing that will be adding to those concerns today its research this morning by a fuel poverty charity that says with a price cap going up in the end of the winter fuel payments for many, pensioners could find themselves £483 a year worse off. the conservatives will be seeking to keep the pressure upon this, the shadow energy secretary has to rethink when it comes to this policy and they will be looking to force a debate when parliament returns from recess in september. when we think about potential u—turn from the transfer, rachel reeves, at this point, it is unlikely give

the july figures i don't think will necessarily capture the latest settlements that this new labour governmenti think that there were previous settlements which are now percolating, which by, by our government, which are now percolating through. and i think these new settlements, because some of them were announced even in august. so they can't be reflected in the july numbers. and i think there'll be more of that to come. i think there'll be more higher wage settlements , be more higher wage settlements, which will be paid for by higher taxes. and that's what the treasury are clearly spinning and suggesting that that's what's going to happen. and my question is what taxes are they going to put up? i mean , we know going to put up? i mean, we know about obviously vat on school fees, but that won't that won't do anything really to fill that hole. >> it might cut spending. two. >> it might cut spending. two. >> don't forget they'll have to do that. well they'll have to do that. but where the tax the taxes fall the tax increases fall i think will be a very big you worked you worked in the treasur

huge backlog left behind by the last government is the labour policy.t to say everyone can stay? >> well, that's exactly the problem, right? so this is going to encourage more people to now make that perilous journey across the channel. you know, ultimately we want no one to cross because that saves lives and it reduces this problem here. and no one can possibly suggest that france is not a safe country, it's really interesting. of course, they've cancelled the rwanda plan before we had a chance to have it. and now what's the italian government doing? they've got a plan very similar with albania . plan very similar with albania. they you know. yeah. so this is just going to now the italians, the italians have done something thatis the italians have done something that is true . that is true. >> and joe joe is basically the policy just doesn't matter who comes. >> just i don't think it is at all. >> and it sounds like it doesn't it. >> well, well, only in your head. >> nigel, ijust head. >> nigel, i just read you the statement. >> i know, but that is not

people give donations to the labour party, getting jobs in government.t it's jobs for the boys and sorting out pay rises for public sector workers. but, you know, some of them are backed by unions against money taken away from pensioners. >> i think the really crucial thing when you look at prime ministers is look at the first speech they give on the steps of downing street and i think keir starmer is in danger of slipping into the problem that rishi sunak slipped into. right. so rishi sunak stands there on the steps of downing street and says i'm going to bring integrity and accountability to government. and then he brings in suella braverman as home secretary and so all of those people who wanted integrity and accountability in government, after liz truss and boris johnson say, hang on a moment, this isn't what you promised. and i think keir starmer is falling into that same trap, saying country first, country first, party second, and then yet he's doing and then he's delivering, you know, and you nofice delivering, you know, and you notice it with, you