. -- ladder agian. -- again. it is so ephemeral, it is gone. how long it took the nine months or eight months. tavis: to your point, and i think you are right, the nothing really compares to that feeling of euphoria. navigated through those periods when you didn't win the big one? it was renewed energy to come back. things that i noticed in my own career is that it was hard for teams that went into a successful season to lose in the finals and come back the next year. came back at us, the utah jazz.

. -- ladder agian. -- again. it is so ephemeral, it is gone. how long it took the nine months or eight months. tavis: to your point, and i think you are right, the nothing really compares to that feeling of euphoria. navigated through those periods when you didn't win the big one? it was renewed energy to come back. things that i noticed in my own career is that it was hard for teams that went into a successful season to lose in the finals and come back the next year. came back at us, the utah jazz. with the lakers, we never had anybody that was successful coming back at us in subsequent years. those things have demoralized a team and you have to really regenerate a team and start all over again. the finals, but that is not the penultimate thing. win is what is important because you have to put all your energy into that. does our society put too much focus on winning? >> it really does. it details behind the ncaa game issue. down in the first half, came roaring back into the game. it was a game in which you congratulate both the teams for what