our ladder project is actually very specific.we get our referrals for young people from section 35. so, in massachusetts, there's a section 35 law that says that any individual can be civilly committed up to 90 days, if their alcohol or drug use is a danger to themselves or to someone else. so, they're court referrals? so, they're court-referraled. right. yep, so, we get our referrals from the treatment programs in which that they're sent to. do you find that mandated treatment is equally as effective as if the family brought in the youth? mandated treatment is important, and we're also talking about individual's level of motivation and readiness, so they may not want to be in treatment, but they're there, so it gives them a time for sobriety to begin to look at any issues or problems related to their substance use, and maybe begin to move their level of motivation if they weren't ready. so, that is an important part. yeah. and alison, talk to us about active minds. how do you-you're one of the founders-it is an incredibly import