but to escape the battlefield with bin laden at 11:00 p.m. bin laden disappeared. the reason that is so interesting as we know that was exactly eight half hour time difference between the united states and afghanistan. was arms exactly at this moment donald rumsfeld doing a lengthy discussion about the iraq war plans for the iraq war plans were 800 pages. he had a week to rewrite them. then he did the briefing that day. literally as the world trade center considered to smolder and i went back to soon the pile would stop smolder. the architect is escaping we do not put extra boots on the ground. lou should've been more soldiers on my account the reason i say that with certainty is unfortunately now is dead special forces officer led the american forces. he counted a total of 70 american special forces and total of 70 that included 12 people from the british special boat service. both of them said there were about a hundred. if journalist could get there, it's not like they had c-130s. [laughter] and apache helicopters. in fact it matters, interestingly and up to 150

and bin laden criticized bin laden for turning a blind eye on russia, china, india and pakistan for their wars and suppression of muslims. the bill clinton government supported the al qaeda forces in bosnia, and co- seville, and chechnya. even that they've been attacking us all through the 1990s. they're picking up the tabs for russia's war at the same time cia were back with the rebels again. in fact after september 11 bill clinton, and brad sherman all three said something to the effect of how could these muslims attack us after all we have done for them? the reality was the occupation of saudi arabia had not ceased. the bombing of iraq could not cease. the dictator ship had not ceased. the democrats had failed to bribe off these al qaeda terrorists. all of their motives to attack the united states were still on. and importantly it was not they were just angry about the policy they had a strategy. a strategy which provoked the united states into doing something >>. rules for radical and a symmetric action including terrorism for the action is in the reaction of the opposition. in this c

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we killed osama bin laden.hat we allowed to happen, i can't say mission accomplished. the politics of it, the people who wanted to build nations made it into a failure. can you say mission accomplished? we did eliminate the threat of osama bin laden. mission accomplished that we allowed it to become what it is now? no. host: i want to share one of the headlines with you from the washington post this morning. according to the washington post, there are al qaeda members back in afghanistan. that is in the papers this morning as well. we will show you the headline of the washington post. the pentagon gave a rare briefing on a weekend. the pentagon spokesperson john kirby gave the latest on the ground with u.s. efforts to evacuate citizens. this is what he had to say. >> how many of those 17,000 are american citizens? have there been any further outside the wire operations by the military? >> i don't have a breakdown of how many 17,000 are americans. to my knowledge, since we talked yesterday, there haven't been an

we killed osama bin laden. what we allowed to happen, i can't say mission accomplished. the politics of it, the people who wanted to build nations made it into a failure. can you say mission accomplished? we did eliminate the threat of osama bin laden. mission accomplished that we allowed it to become what it is now? no. host: i want to share one of the headlines with you from the washington post this morning. according to the washington post, there are al qaeda members back in afghanistan. that is in the papers this morning as well. we will show you the headline of the washington post. the pentagon gave a rare briefing on a weekend. the pentagon spokesperson john kirby gave the latest on the ground with u.s. efforts to evacuate citizens. this is what he had to say. >> how many of those 17,000 are american citizens? have there been any further outside the wire operations by the military? >> i don't have a breakdown of how many 17,000 are americans. to my knowledge, since we talked yesterday, there haven't been

our issue was because they supported bin laden. before 9/11, there was an article in the paper that said -- the taliban had been forbidden for selling drugs and alcohol. then, after we went in, about nine months later, you see an article and they are doing more production of this heroin and drugs going all over the world. we have a war on drugs and no-fly zones but they are not taking all of those drugs out on camels to other countries. they are taking them and sending them all over the world we have a war on drugs. this is a thing you never see. let's see the optics of all of these places where we let that go on. i'm glad that that is over. another thing is this. that is the people's religion. you have to respect the choice of your religion, this is how it is. if somebody comes and tries to change our religion, we would all have a problem. host: james in maryland, you began by speaking about the original purpose to go in and find, capture and kill osama bin laden. this is from may the first of 2011, then president obama announcing

la manera cÓmo se iba a reaccionar, y luego se capturÓ a osama bin laden.: vamos a ir con claudia uceda con un informe de los informes mÁs importantes en de esto se 20 aÑos de guerra en afganistÁn. claudia: hola, si es. durante estos 20 aÑos hemos visto muchas muertes, bombardeos, acuerdos de paz que realmente no se cumplieron, y discursos de varios presidentes, de barack obama, de george bush, y tambiÉn de trump. ahora esperamos por el discurso de joe biden. detendrÉ un recuento de lo que ha sido estos 20 aÑos. veamos. ♪ [sonido ambiente] todo comenzÓ con los ataques del 11 de septiembre. [sonido ambiente] >> [habla en inglÉs] claudia: osama 1000 laden en afganistÁn ordenÓ al qaeda perpetrar un ataque terrorista jamÁs visto en suelo estadounidense. cuatro vuelos comerciales fueron estrellados contra las torres gemelas, el pentÁgono y pensilvania, causando la muerte de casi 200 personas. en menos de un mes de la coaliciÓn liderada por estados unidos bombardeo las instalaciones de los talibanes y al qaida, grupos terroristas. el ex presidente george w bush d

our issue was because they supported bin laden.efore 9/11, there was an article in the paper that said -- the taliban had been forbidden for selling drugs and alcohol. then, after we went in, about nine months later, you see an article and they are doing more production of this heroin and drugs going all over the world. we have a war on drugs and no-fly zones but they are not taking all of those drugs out on camels to other countries. they are taking them and sending them all over the world we have a war on drugs. this is a thing you never see. let's see the optics of all of these places where we let that go on. i'm glad that that is over. another thing is this. that is the people's religion. you have to respect the choice of your religion, this is how it is. if somebody comes and tries to change our religion, we would all have a problem. host: james in maryland, you began by speaking about the original purpose to go in and find, capture and kill osama bin laden. this is from may the first of 2011, then president obama announcing a

bin laden was killed in pakistan by us and that should be enough. the taliban is composed mainly of young males who are religiously motivated, trying to keep the peace in their country, rightly or wrongly. it is their problem, not ours. host: would you describe it as trying to keep the peace, what they are doing their? -- there? caller: the taliban is trying to keep the peace in their country, rightly or wrongly. host: why do you use that term, trying to keep the peace? do you think that is what they have been doing the past 20 years? caller: yes. they were mostly young men. they were educated young men who were regularly motivated trying to keep religiously the peace in their country. host: in louisiana, ginger, republican. caller: there have been a lot of good points made today. i do not know what that was. the retreats were hasty. i do not understand why all that equipment was left behind for the taliban because they have it , drones, helicopters, airplanes, tanks, more guns then you could shake a stick at. why that was all just left behind, why

in the beginning, there was osama bin laden. everything begins in afghanistan begins with osama bin laden. you have to understand that this goes back to the gulf war, when the saudis ejected osama bin laden and sent him off to sudan and he spent the next four years there. brooding and watching america operating in the gulf. until the americans were looking at improving relations with the sudanese who were desperate to get out from underneath so many of the sanctions we had imposed on them. so we went to the sudanese and said look. this first step of getting out of the doghouse with america, you need to get rid of lane. of bin laden. he was under the protection of the spiritual leader at that time. but i carried a message to khartoum, to omar bashir who was president and to the cleric who i've known for years and said the bin laden thing, get him out of here. they went to bin laden and said where would you like to go? back to saudi arabia? no, the saudis said not on your life, he's not coming here. the sudanese came us to and sai

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you need get rid of bin laden. he was under the protection of the spiritual leader of the sudan at the time, and i shared a message with khartoum. we did not have anything to charge him with. sudanese said we will keep him on a tight leash. the american position was, no, we cannot do that. you've got to get him out of there. he said he would go to somalia. finally, the sudanese said what about afghanistan? perfect. we would send bin laden to afghanistan. in 1996, out of sudan and off to afghanistan to jalalabad which had not yet fallen to the taliban. he hooked up with an old friend of his and later when he -- when the taliban took over in afghanistan, they more or less celebrated having bin laden there and the rest of becomes history because he plodded along with some boys and homburg -- hamburg and new jersey and the next thing we have is 9/11. this was not something that was entirely accidental. we were involved in all the way to the time that, you know, the verily early 1990's when he was in sudan. i think it's

we got osama bin laden. that was our goal, the mission. to sit there and have frank biden or whoever start building stuff as a contractor -- this is where it gets messy. our troops if they are there for 100 years, the taliban will hide. they will cross borders. they will come out and take it again. unless we are going to sit there forever and today, like the british who colonized places -- whether we were trading or moving goods, we would have problems, whether it is the same places we are having problems. we sat there and we have to sit there forever. who wants to live there? do you want to protect that region that has nothing to protect? i feel horrible that the good people that are there, like the ones that protected the lone survivor -- everybody should watch the movie. there are good, but it seems they are outnumbered so great that we would have to sit there forever and lose our blood and our most precious of what we have to give to help the world. they are still shooting us. we are training them to be cops and they turn on us. we can

counterterrorism mission trying to find osama bin laden after he escaped up through this gradual escalation into much more expensive counterinsurgency and nationbuilding until his efforts essentially collapsed and u.s. forces returned to a coward terror -- counterterrorism foster in recent years before leaving. host: when did you first go to pech and why? guest: i first visited in 2010. i was a journalist covering president obama's surge that year when u.s. troop levels had been rising to their all-time high of 100,000 u.s. troops in the country. i was embedding with different infantry battalions in different parts of the country in a tough fight. the patch was one of them and i got fast -- pech was fascinating. host: why was a fascinating? guest: there was a huge dichotomy with what was going on there and to the rest of the country. traveling afghanistan that summer, the commanders would give you a line about how many new outposts their building, how many new kilometers of road they are paving, how many new afghan security forces they are training. they are on the offensive, surging outcom

we never gave up the hunt for osama bin laden, and we got him. that was a decade ago. our mission in afghanistan was never supposed to be nationbuilding. it was never supposed to be creating a unified, centralized marker c. -- democracy. our only interest in afghanistan remains what he has always been, preventing a terrorist attack on the american homeland. i have argued many years that our mission should be narrowly focused on counterterrorism, not counterinsurgency or nationbuilding. that's why i opposed the surge when it was proposed in 2009 when i was vice president. that's why as president, i am adamant we focus on the threats we face today in 2021, not yesterday's threats. today, the terrorist threat has metastasized well beyond afghanistan. al-shabaab in somalia, isis attempting to create a caliphate in syria and iraq and establish affiliates in africa and asia. these threats warrant our attention and resources. we conduct effective counterterrorism missions against terrorist groups in multiple countries, where we don't have a permanent military presence. if nec

his thoughts on 9/11 and osama bin laden. >> when osama bin laden became a issue for americans he was in afghan san. there was no proof he was involved. now we have promises afghan soil won't be used against anyone. >> you don't think osama bin laden carried out 9/11. >> there is no evidence. >> despite osama bid laden is on video taking credit. >> it's an amazing video, jaw drop i remember. what do you do? what do you say now? what you do is if you believe the taliban knows exactly were the isis k group is located before you leave the airport you hit the target for isis k. you go back on offense. that's one thing he could do when he comes out to speak. what does he say? i have watched coverage all day to day. one think lacking from everyone on the microphone. we haven't heard. when is the empathy, anger, sadness. the american people are pissed off. at the end of 20 years this is what you get. put a voice to it. joe biden was the empathetic leader. he hasn't done that and has a chance now coming up. a week ago you had the week with george s. on abc news. he was asked do you believe th

after he killed bin laden.ughter] but there is still some in denial, like this witless water cannon. >> 95% of the american people will agree with everything he just said. 95% of the press covering this white house will disagree. and for an american president to finally be completely aligned with such an overwhelming majority of what the american people think about afghanistan is probably a tremendous relief to the american people. >> greg: talk about brain-dead. they should change the name of her show from "deadline" to "flatline." i am not bashing the decision to leave, it is how the atrocious exit negated so much sacrifice. this is truly a man-made disaster. in biden's speech yesterday, he defiantly defended his botched exit, as if we were critical of leaving, but we weren't, we were critical of his incompetence and carrying it. if anybody should know that, it is a man who probably starts his day with fiber con and a pot of black coffee. people over 60 get that. my core audience. [laughter] imagine -- imagin

yes, indeed, absolutely. >> even if it were osama bin laden? >> absolutely. >> it's a big question. >> will we treat him well or beat him up, why get into that? >> it's a big question to the americans. this is enemy number one for them. they want to know that their friend in pakistan is on the same page and if you caught osama bin laden, you would turn him over. >> the people who need to know, know it. >> we know is that he wound up being found in pakistan. what was the point? look, that was supposed to be our big ally in the region at the time, the president of pakistan. it's that it's never been as simple as we've wanted it to be back here at home. one place, looking for one face. fighting terror means chasing an idea, it means poverty, religion, it means dealing with societies and clans. it's complicated. and taliban, al qaeda, taliban, isis, who knows where next. it's never been as simple as we wanted it to be. start tonight with clear eyes on how we got here, and the reality is this, now what? we were there for one reason, so stop another

over a decade _ bin laden on may two, 2011. over a decade ago — bin laden on may two, 2011.afghanistan? even though the taliban —controlled afghanistan in the year 200i _ —controlled afghanistan in the year 200i i_ —controlled afghanistan in the year 2001. i believe the honest answer is no. 2001. i believe the honest answer is no that's _ 2001. i believe the honest answer is no. that's because we had no vital interest— no. that's because we had no vital interest in— no. that's because we had no vital interest in afghanistan other than to prevent an attack on america's homeland — to prevent an attack on america's homeland and our friends. and that's true today _ homeland and our friends. and that's true today. we succeeded in what we set out _ true today. we succeeded in what we set out to _ true today. we succeeded in what we set out to do in afghanistan over a decade _ set out to do in afghanistan over a decade ago. then we stayed for another— decade ago. then we stayed for another decade. it was time to end this war~ _ another decade. it was time to end this war. this is a

_ what they did to harbour 0sama bin laden for— what they did to harbour 0sama bin laden for many yearsyears. we see the connection they are, we have iran also taking — connection they are, we have iran also taking a very close eye on this, _ also taking a very close eye on this, as — also taking a very close eye on this, as well. it's notjust pakistan, _ this, as well. it's notjust pakistan, its iran, china, russia as well - _ pakistan, its iran, china, russia as well - att— pakistan, its iran, china, russia as well — all these areas which are quite _ well — all these areas which are quite happy to see america looking understrength, quite happy to see boris _ understrength, quite happy to see borisjohnson in britain looking helpless, as well for this all helps them _ helpless, as well for this all helps them so— helpless, as well for this all helps them. so yes, this is a relationship we should — them. so yes, this is a relationship we should be looking at again, but ultimately, what have we got to fight _ ultimately, what have we got to fight them with? we had dominic raab talking _ f

/11 attack and the spokesman for the taliban said that there's no evidence that he's seen that bin laden1 attack. now, if that's the taliban's position, and i think it is, there's no question in my mind that the taliban is going to allow al qaeda safe haven in afghanistan and one of the primary missions of our effort in afghanistan after 9/11 was not only to get bin laden which we were successful at doing, but also to prevent afghanistan from ever becoming a safe haven for terrorism. and fortunately, today, that mission was not accomplished. >> and mr. secretary, i'm afraid i'll have to interrupt because the louisiana governor is about to hold a news conference about the situation with hurricane ida. i hope you can stand by and we can bring you back afterwards. >> i'm sorry, in st. john the baptist parish. we have additional law enforcement that will be on the ground to help you, sheriff, state troopers from louisiana. we have wild life and fishery officers, we will be moving national guardsmen in as well for basic security functions and so we'll be with you for the long haul. what i'm t

they change the headline to read a full picture of usama bin laden's life.r navy seal who killed bin laden was one of many to respond. he used his wife as a human shield. that says it all. joey jones, what he thinks of this as well. jillian: we have -- todd: joe concha, marty macario and janice dean. do not go anywhere. ♪♪ ♪♪ if you believe ♪♪ need long-lasting freshness? try new febreze unstopables touch fabric spray. it doesn't just eliminate odors... simply shake and spray to unlock the breakthrough power of touch-activated scent technology. that lasts, even hours later! that's because febreze touch stores scent in your fabrics so you get bursts of freshness with every touch. your whole world will come alive. welcome home to fresh with new febreze touch. todd: it is wednesday august 4th, denial and destruction, andrew cuomo defiant despite bipartisan cauldron to re-sign. shocking claims of harassment. jillian: the blame game continues, attacking republican governors for refusing to limit mask mandate, polls reveal how americans feel about the handling of

-- bin laden-— bin laden.laden. it will be regarded as a huge mistake _ bin laden. it will be regarded as a huge mistake and _ bin laden. it will be regarded as a huge mistake and i _ bin laden. it will be regarded as a huge mistake and i think - bin laden. it will be regarded as a huge mistake and i think biden . huge mistake and i think biden appears to be proceedings and not wavering because there is an assumption it won't cost the us anything and i think the real damage won't be clear, you know, reports refugees flooding across border, young girls being sold to taliban fighters and the real scale of the humanitarian disaster unfolding, you know, hits our screens on a more regular basis, already, i think i the republicans are piling in, and and criticising the decision, you had you know, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell saying that the biden administration had been reduced to pleading with the taliban to protect the us embassy and said you know, the us risk a humiliating sequel to the fall of saigon

because we were attacked by osama bin laden and al qaeda on september 11 2001. and they were based in afghanistan. we deliver justice to bin laden on may 2, 2011. over a decade ago. al qaeda was decimated. i respectfully suggest u.s. yourself this question. if we had been attacked on september 11, 2001 from yemen instead of afghanistan, would we have ever gone to war in afghanistan? even though the taliban-controlled afghanistan in the year 2001? i believe the honest answer is no. that is because we had no vital interest in afghanistan other than to prevent an attack on america's homeland and our friends. and that is true today. we succeeded in what we set out to do in afghanistan over a decade ago. and we stayed for another decade. it was time to end this war. it's a new world. the terrorist threat has tested sized across the -- metastasized across the world. we face threats from somalia, al qaeda affiliates in syria and the new -- arabian peninsula, and isis attempting -- across africa and asia. the fundamental obligation of a president in my opinion is to def

he was the main protector of hamza bin laden, osama bin laden's son as he fought in command of taliban forces. so this is a ridiculous idea that this is really isis-k and gosh, the taliban must be really disappointed. that's crazy, i think, andrea. i'm sure that we will uncover evidence that this has happened with the full knowledge of haqqanis and the taliban if not the most senior leadership. it has the hallmark of the attacks of the hack an is. they are expert at two things, taking people hostage and committing mass murder attacks of this scale. and so they are in charge now and this is what happens when you surrender to jihadist terrorists. >> general mcmaster, haqqani also has al qaeda connections and there are overlaps here and it is true that isis-k have been active and they're adversaries of the taliban. so can you sort through that? i was going to ask you, in fact, about the fact that haqqani was on the fbi most wanted list was by the taliban put in charge of some security in kabul just last week and showed up at friday prayers. >> all security in kabul. he's the one dictating

from those countries that when to end afghanistan with us to get bin laden. we got out locally employed staff in the united sembassy and their families totally roughly 2000 people. we got thousands of afghan translators and interpreters. and others

we went there for two reasons, george, two reasons -- one, to get bin laden and, two, to wipe out as best we could and we did the al qaeda in afghanistan. we did it. then what happened? it began to morph into the notion that instead of having a counterterrorism capability to have small forces in air or in the region to be able to take on al qaeda if it tried to reconstitute we decided to engage in nation building, in nation building. that never made any sense to me.

and also give osama bin laden over. the u.s.ected, president bush rejected both. >> this was a central aspect of the war on terror at its inception and foreshadowing of what its implications would be. once we accept the frame that bush offered, war on terror, we were then locked into a struggle not just against al qaeda, the entity culpable for the 9/11 attacks, but a much broader struggle against an enemy that a president could redefine and will and leave in the popular imagination was something along the lines of a civilizational challenge to america for the future, one of which america itself was in the balance. let's look in particular at that moment in kandahar. the united states northern alliance allies had routed the taliban from kabul, the islamic emirate of afghanistan had fallen after about five or six years in power, and they recognized after a last stand they try to put on in kandahar did not go the way they expected that the end was near for them. they offered hamid karzai that as long as mullah mohammed omar could

. >> reporter: this war started when osama bin laden, the guest of the taliban, organized 9/11 attacks can you guarantee that this country will never again be a base for terrorism? >> translator: when osama bin laden became an issue for the americans, he was in afghanistan, although there was no proof he was involved now we have given promises that afghan soil won't be used against anyone >> reporter: you still don't think that osama bin laden carried out 9/11 >> there is no evidence. even after 20 years of war, we have no proof he was involved. >> reporter: so it sounds like even now after all of this you're accepting no responsibility >> translator: there was no justification for this war it was excuse for war. >> reporter: how are you feeling right now after 20 years and the americans are leaving? >> translator: the withdrawal is almost finished these are our happiest moments. >> richard, did this spokesman talk about what the future relationship could look like between the u.s. and the taliban >> reporter: he did. he said he wants to open a new chapter of relations with the united

we delivered justice to bin laden more than a decade ago. but the current environment looks very different than it did in 2001. and we have to meet the challenges we face today. we run effective counter-terrorism operations around the world, where we know terrorism is more of a threat than it is today in afghanistan, without any permanent military presence on the ground. and we can and will do the same thing in afghanistan, with our over the horizon counter-terrorism capability. cooperation with our closest partners on our enduring counter-terrorism mission will continue to be an essential piece of our strategy. in short, we all, all of us agreed today that we're going to stand shoulder to shoulder with our closest partners to meet the current challenges that we face in afghanistan, just as we have for the past 20 years. we're acting in consultation and cooperation with our closest friends and fellow democracies. and i want to, again, thank all of our allies and partners around the world who have rallied in support of our shared mission. we

this had nothing to do with getting bin laden.mar the original leader of the described bin laden as a chicken bone stuck in his throat. he wanted to get rid of him like anybody else. he's still trying to negotiate with the u.s. military by invading the country. bin laden within two months present pakistan. get the u.s. military remained in afghanistan even ten years after that than ten years after that to today but it's clearly not about getting bin laden. it's not creating democracy the afghan papers from two years ago said they knew it was all a lie. we are seeing this afghan military they built crumbled and eight days after $100 billion being spent just on that. we abandon the allies there in the same way we abandon the yards in vietnam. we those that came home with ptsd and many other issues the trauma they are facing as a result of the war. every single aspect of this, the only people who have benefited from this are the ones who are to blame. kennedy: your absolute right that chilean dollars went somewhere. that is what we h

whether this could prove to be a breeding ground for the next osama bin laden. and let's go to lucas tomlinson over confusing on who is running the airport. lucas? >> pentagon officials of the u.s. are still in control. let's go across the river where ned price denied that the u.s. government is giving any names to the taliban. names of americans and critical afghan allies. here's ned price. >> the notion that we're providing that with names upon names of individuals who may stay behind in afghanistan or in a way that would expose anyone to additional risks, that is simply false. >> the pentagon corrected reports of two suicide bombers saying there was only one. one bomber approached the gunmen and then blew himself up. the death toll among afghans are close to 130. the pentagon says there's a risk of more attacks. >> we're monitoring these threating very specifically. virtually and in real time. >> our own jennifer griffin spoke to john kirby earlier today. >> how can general mckenzie say with certainty the taliban were not involved in the suicide bomb somethin

host: should we have left after we got bin laden? caller: we should have left after bin laden, because not only did we get the taliban mad, but we got other people that didn't really support bin laden but hated the way we snuck over there and got him. just like we hated the way they snuck over here and got us. host: this is michael in north carolina, democrat. caller: yes. i agree with every single thing, just about everybody said on c-span. thank god for c-span. we should have guarded our own borders. we should have made sure that we spent the money on the people that are here, struggling with the coronavirus. we should have been focused on us. i'm to the point where donald trump, i did not agree with a lot of things he said but i do agree with one thing he said. he said that we should protect ourselves. host: that is michael in north carolina. a reminder as you are waiting on hold, please put your tv on mute. it makes the conversations a little bit easier. it is coming up on not :00 on the east coast -- on 9:00 on the east coast an

we never give up the hunt for osama bin laden and we got him. that was a decade ago.ur mission in afghanistan was never supposed to be creating a unified democracy. we were only preventing a terrorist attack on american homeland. i have argued for many years that our mission should be narrowly focused on counterterrorism, not counterinsurgency or nationbuilding. that is why i opposed the surge, the one proposed in 2009 when i was vice president. i am adamant that we focus on the threats we face today in 2021, not yesterday's threats. today, the terrorist threat has metastasized well beyond afghanistan. somalia, the arabian peninsula, isis attempting to take root in syria and iraq. these threats warrant our attention and are -- our resources. we conduct counterterrorist missions in mobile countries were we don't have permanent military presence. if necessary, we will do the same in afghanistan. we have developed counterterrorism over the rise in capability that will allow us to keep our eyes firmly fixed on the direct threats to the united states in the region. and act

and when it comes to afghanistan, that was getting bin laden and degrading al qaeda. but indiana senator mike braun says things could have been much different and blames the biden administration for the chaos. the spray >> and that what happened be >> brown says the u.s. needs to do more to protect those who helped us. we have the ability. >> marcus straight to get our own people out safely afghanis as well in area. now. >> and the senate foreign relations committee says it plans to hold a hearing on the situation in afghanistan. soon. and we can expect tough questions from top military leaders. back to you. so we shot what more do we know about getting those evacuees out of afghanistan. well, the evacuees are being taken out on those big cargo planes operated by the u.s. military. we do know that the u.s. military is in control of the airport there in afghanistan to make sure these transport, these transports are done safely and smoothly and we are learning that so far today. 1000 us citizens have been evacuated from afghanistan. all thank you for that live report fr