it took almost four years, four years until june 19, 1865 for the inns laden texas to be liberated.that is what juneteenth means. that is why it is commemorated. we need more than a national holiday. one more day off, to actually acknowledge the historicharm of slavery in this country. >> what should be we thinking about? >> we have a multi-day mlk day. what kind of reflection should be be hoping for? >> we should be hoping for pushing the message of we need equity in this country. to achieve that, this country has to acknowledge and reckon with its racist history. >> joe, you have been doing reporting around hate crimes that have been happening. mostly directed at asian americans. clearly, all of these things are very much connected when you think about our history. our present and the violence in the past and how it impacts things happening now. >> we are definitely seeing an increase in things happening here in the bay area. although we think we are in this progressive bubble, we need to address it. it is happening here in happening now. >> yeah, what is the appropriate response