i'm so interested in ladybird. one thing she said, she said -- she took the chief usher aside and said, the president comes first, my daughter comes second, and i take what is left over. she really lived that way. brian: when did the butler's or the maids see a nude woman running around the white house living quarters and it wasn't anybody connected to the family? kate: that was during the kennedy administration. the head electrician and the dog keeper at the time saw some really strange things going on in the second and third floors. they technically weren't supposed to wander up there when mrs. kennedy was out of town. she was often going down to the farm in virginia. during the weekend, she didn't like staying at the white house. the president wanted the staff gone. he would ask for food to be put aside, and a picture of daiquiris him. his guests said he would swim, sometimes nude, with the secretaries. one staffer told me that they found dave powers, a top adviser to president kennedy, swimming in the pool with

johnson was leaning over and says claiborne i want the people to see the sculpture and so does ladybird and the only way to name them is to name it the herschel museum. it's kind of shaken and a couple days later he called and said it's fine. you were his closest aide on domestic affairs from early in the morning until late at night for three and a half years. i had a simple question, how did he do this stuff. he found a way to get it done. near the end of the line i was on the other week or so i had an office down the hall and i have my own bathroom. he called one morning about 8:00 we had the line it didn't rain intermittently. it always made you feel like it. hispanic and he said where is she he's in the bathroom. isn't there a file in and she said no. they said to forget about it. the next morning at the same time i am in the same place and the same call. i told you to put a phone in their. by the time i got out of the bathroom it was installed. he saw things. one of my kids had a hospital in virginia and washington. my son swallowed a bottle of aspirin and of course i just ran they

ladybird said that ladybird said it is to make lindy, but how are you going to do it without a wife? that was a very good question and one she had a hard time with takeshi ended up playing both roles of course and making it twice as hard. it wasn't an experience in a way of growing up they really dig give me a deeper appreciation for the women in politics now and for women in history. and particularly interested in the women of the revolutionary. because i have to deal with the founding fathers all the time. i know them all by first names. i am not crazy about them. i admire them but once you start reading their wives letters, you like them less. but that is an era if you cover politics as long as i have you deal with constantly. the people who say that coming mainly in the united states senate have it wrong about 99.9% of the time. i was always going back to see what they did say about religion in the public square for the right to bear arms why you have to be an child of an american citizen to be president. you don't have to be born in america. canada will do. so i had gotten to th

this is a conversation or ladybird is critiquing lyndon johnson's performance in a public event. >> i thought that it was wrong. an honorable you were looking down. there was a pickup in general. your facial expression. they didn't like it's he said. [laughter] >> therein lies the reason we talk about 1st ladies. what other advisor could be that candid to a president? >> you spencer maybe. >> what are we hearing? >> they owned television stations. she had the background. with his 1st ladies in some ways are to their husbands whether it is in an official capacity or not. she wants them to be as successful as he does. >> and that clip shows you when you talk about this the various attributes that they bring to the table mrs. johnson like mrs. obama thinks it a very organized way. very well structured. famous for i don't have a schedule. i like i like to do think spontaneously. different ones bring different things. she had a degree in journalism. her love of writing, cadence was in its but also the media experience. and that is really political it is a policy but it ends up having a pol

not ladybird, but the lady. you had the chief and the lady. i will turn it over to you in a minute.coughing] thank you. give me a drink of water. thank you. not at this time of day. [laughter] i'm not lemonade lucy. my grandfather was in the white house at the time of prohibition so we have to watch this. [laughter] [applause] while i wait for the water, i will drop back just a bit. about six weeks ago, i was in with sprint, the west branch iowa celebrating the 120th anniversary of my grandmother's birth. if you do not think that made me feel old, and i had a daughter a son, and a grandson there also. i thought, oh my goodness, i'm a bridge. i'm a bridge between the 20th century which was almost 100 years ago and my children and my grandchildren. i have three grandchildren and that's about all i want to get after all these five children. [laughter] so what i did then was that i thought was supposed to talk mostly about my grandmother not my life in the white house. she was remarkable. she had a remarkable sense of humor. she was very athletic. when i was 11 years old, she was 68 and

members of america's first families remember first ladies featuring the daughters of jackie kennedy ladybird johnson, betty ford, and laura bush. on c-span 2 saturday night at 10:00 eastern, on book tv's "after words," author jon krakauer on sexual assaults in the u.s. focusing on the college town of missoula, montana." and sunday evening at 10:00 ann dunwoody, the first female four-star general, talks about her life and military career. and on american history tv on c-span 3 saturday afternoon at 4:45 eastern on "oral histories," remembering the liberation of nazi concentration camps with an interview of kurt klein, who as a teenager escaped the german persecution of jews by coming to the u.s. lost his parents in auschwitz, and as an interrogator for the u.s. army questioned hitler's personal driver. and the 70th anniversary of the end of world war ii in europe with dignitaries and veterans commemorating the event in washington, d.c. get our complete schedule at cspan.org. >>> more of that washington college of law event at american university. this panel looks at if digital technology in g