the anger she's got seriously trump derangement cyst syndrome, there's no question about laetitia james, the corrupt attorney general of new york. we've proven our case, there is not one witness against us other than one person who is a deranged -- he's got a lot of problems. he's been a man who's been convicted of lying, he's a felon, a convicted felon. and not a good person. but that's their only witness, and he is now crashed and burned. they have no witnesses. and by the way, that witness took back everything he said. in court. he took it all back. so they have no case, it's a shame that a thing like this is able to happen. businesses leave new york, if you went after exxon and they decided to move to texas, and hundreds of millions of dollars they paid in taxes. i've paid over $300 million of taxes over the last number of years, 300 million. and they don't recognize that. they don't recognize anything. think of it, not one witness, millions of pages of documents, years of this nonsense and now goes on. and one other factor -- we won this case already, in the court of appeals. the c

engoron, so -- perpetrated, against by donald trump -- he went into this latest trial against laetitia james with the same thing. and so, because of that, and when you see, that you've now had two juries come back against him, to neal katyal's point as well, there have been grand juries that have returned indictments. these have been people, these have been ordinary citizens that have been called to duty, that have been asked to serve in these capacities. they are the ones that have returned indictments. and now they are the ones that have returned these verdicts. and so these are the people, the ordinary citizens that are doing extraordinary work, that are telling donald trump, you are now being held accountable. >> that is such a good. point and i want to get to judge engoron's looming decision in a minute. but, neal, to katie phang's point about the jury, i thought this was really remarkable. judge kaplan, the judge in this, case told the jury, my advice to you is that you never disclose that you were on this jury. first of, all neal, how unusual is it for a judge to say something like th

laetitia james attempt to remove lapierre, after decades at the helm of the controversial lobbying group centers on allegations of corruption and financial mismanagement, including prosecutors, say, 40,000 dollar beverly hills shopping sprees, another 250 grand on travel expenses to the bahamas and italy's like cuomo, among other destinations, all this allegedly under the nra's tab. lapierre has argued that his expenditures were all legitimate business expenses. with us now, cnn contributor and writer for the jury's, jennifer massiah. jennifer, thank you for being with us. there have been so many attempts to oust lapierre as the face of the nra. what makes this different? >> this could actually cost him his job. this is not, you know, and are a executive standing near him and, he has fended off coup temps by dissident nra members. this is something that the new york attorney general said she can prove that lapierre as well as the other top executives enrich themselves with the funds that members thought they were donating to advocate for gun rights, and james alleges that uses a personal

laetitia james. that's a bench trial, so the judge is the only person to decide.markable fashion. >> he has. and look, a judge has an absolute obligation to both parties to be fair and thoughtful. and that can be hard when you have a litigant in front of you, a defendant in mr. trump's case, that just sort of tries at every opportunity to get under your skin. i don't know judge engoron. i imagine he's like all the judges in front of whom i practiced, alex. and he's going to try very hard to keep it down the middle. that's his job. that's what he has to do. so what mr. trump is doing by acting out, again, maybe a valuable political strategy, it may play to some of his fans. it is not going to help him in court. it's not going to help him with the judges. and it's not going to help him if he continues to do this in front of a jury. it is not going to work. >> it could be a very expensive january. chuck rosenberg, thank you again for your wisdom, chuck, appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >>> still ahead tonight, what would you do with $100 million? one conservative media

new york attorney she enroll laetitia james alleges that trump made hundreds of millions of dollars and profit from fraudulent and floating the value of his business and properties to get loans on more favorable terms, terms he could not have gotten without lying. and not only does think donald trump you shouldn't have to pay back the money he made from those lies, he thinks he deserves damages for event being on trial in the first place. >> this was a political witch hunt, election interference. but also forgetting somebody elected because you want the publicity. it's a disgrace and they should pay me damages. that's that way it should be happening. >> here is mr. trump's version of justice and america. if you are the victim of a scam, to pet. you still have to pay taxes on the money stolen from you. but of trump commits fraud, forget about paying the penalty. he's the one who deserve damages. and if you dare to try and hold donald trump accountable, than not only are he worthy of his disdain, you are now in the crosshairs. today in court, trump lashed out at the judge overseeing this

we are going to give laetitia james the last word. >> this case has never been about politics.-calling. this case is about the facts and the law. and mr. donald trump violated the law. >> kurt and danny are back with us. donny, i'll start with you. walk us through what we could expect if we get a decision from judge engoron? >> it's going to be $1 amount of damages and we already know it's gonna be the cancellation of his business licenses. which is really that death penalty for a business. someone conducting business in new york. lieutenant james has appeared meant to 300 and $70 million. i did by the judge is going to give her dollar for dollar on her demand. it might try to meet some, maybe not the middle behind. one thing we've seen about justice and current from his summary judgment opinion, which was earlier on the same case, which carved out a lot of the issues, as you said, in your opening. he's very meticulous. he does go through the documents. he's heavy on the dollar amounts. he does run the calculations. i don't think he plucks numbers out of the year. so we can exp

laetitia james argue today that he should pay that price in penalties for decades of financial fraud. filing came out less than a week when closing arguments are expected to be given that fraud trial. the former president has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing. just days before the york several trial involving the ceo of the national rifle association it set to begin, chief wayne lapierre announced that he is resigning. new york attorney general letitia james was seeking his ouster in the trial as well as financial penalties for alleged corruption. lapierre, who 74, cited his health as the reason for stepping down. and you won't see any ads from jeep, chrysler, or ram trucks during this year's super bowl broadcast. parent company stellantis said today that they won't take out any sports, any spots on the big game as it focuses on cutting costs. the automaker has also pulled out of several auto shows as it contends with falling sales. tyler? back to you. >> bertha, thank you very much. bertha comes. after the break, the national debt of united states hitting a record 34 trillion dollars.

the biggest question is whether he goes with the $370 million that laetitia james says he defrauded theyers of new york out of or, if engoron goes with the $250, the amount titia james was usually seeking. >> let me ask you quickly about the georgiaelection racketeering trial. trump is joining a motion to disqualify fulton county d.a. fani willis over the claims that she was involved in a romantic relationship with her top prosecutor nathan way. he is also now trying to foment racial bias. how do you interpret what is happening in this case? >> so, alex, under georgia law, a district attorney is disqualified if she has a personal interest or stay in a defendant's conviction. the defendants in this case have not alleged facts that remotely reach that. even if it's true that d.a. willis and mrs. would have a personal relationship, that is nothing to do with whether trump and his 14 codefendants are guilty of racketeering and election interference. a grand jury found probable cause. the judge has already refused to dismiss the case. four codefendants have already pled guilty. this case sho

the damages that will be assessed here, whether donald trump will have to pay $370 million that laetitia jamesand his sons will continue to be able to do business in new york state. and at, bottom it's really the reputation, the brand as it were. donald trump has made his name saying that he was a business genius. that real estate mogul here in new york, and it turns, out that at least this court of law believes it was done on a fraudulent basis. that perhaps could have some consequences. certainly, some reputational damage down the road. i think that's why we're seeing all of this activity on social media. insisting that, in fact, the brand is sound. that all of this is an over exaggerated persecution from liberals. >> i learned something interesting in the e. jean carroll case. and that is the 83. 3 million dollar judgment. he's gotta put that into some kind of bond. he needs to take a bond out on that. if judge engoron comes back and says yeah, i agree with the attorney general, you have to pay damages of $370 million. do the same rules apply for that amount of money? or for that judgment >