there is a deep pattern in postwar american history and that is, every president has by lafave -- violated the constitution in an intense way and gotten away with it. nixon did it, reagan did it, and bush did it. and the next one may do it and someone has to have the courage to stop the cycle. >> exactly, they're going to win again, is what i'm saying. they're weak, but they're going to come back again. >> i think it also undermines the public trust. there is a basic sense of integrity and accountability. we have this idea that we all respect the law. if there are these unwritten exceptions and there is a common practice around it, it is very dangerous. it causes people to be detached from government and not trust it. >> one more question, please. >> i work for a place called the high of leaders center. [applause] we work in the 13 southern states and i have to say a round the movement, that was not born of the king's assassination. i went around talking and i was in the land of the libertarians because i live with libertarians who are so excited that for the first time someone talked abou