ben lafave covers the energy industry for political. mr. in 2020, no more drilling on federal lands, no more drilling including offshore, no ability for the oil industry to continue to drill, period. what happened? >> we always see candidates running for office promising one thing, most likely intending to do that thing when they get in but as soon as they step foot in the oval office, reality steps and and changes plans. with this latest oil se in the gulf of mexico, biden had to follow the law. these sales are run twice a year. they got away with not having any last year. there time ran out legally and they had to do it this time. john: i read somee they need the revenue for budget reasons? >> drilling for oil, anywhere on public land, the government gets a cut of the proceeds. the rest goes to conservation efforts. it's a big chunk of change. this last lease sale, wednesday resulted in $264 billion, the highest amount the government's gotten for one of these lease sales since 2014. john: what does this do for environmentalists? >> it's n

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