i would like to know and i will start with you chairman lafleur, your view of this. and should ferc be pushing certain kind of fuel or should it be looking at basically the portfolio and mix that our utilities have? >> well -- >> ferc, you touched on it, ferc's proper role. >> yeah. well, thank you for that question. i do not think it's ferc's job to pick certain kinds of fuels. the whole concept of a market is that it uses a generalized product that allows different fuels to compete fairly and so, if there are preferences for certain kinds of fuels that is not a fair market by definition. i think ferc should try to keep the, be guided by reliability and what the customers need, not by a preference for a particular fuel. >> let me ask, because i know time, we'll go through in a second round, right now, just explain, as simply as possible, any of you all want to jump, the system way it works now. you have producers such as aep, first energy in mine. they're responsible for producing the energy that is needed that goes into the transmission which is what we're calling