. >> commissioner: commissioner laguana. >> thank you for sticking around. we appreciate it. i learned a lot. very quick question. the original parklet program was like a pop-up park and i noticed with $3,000 fee on the front end and the average build out cost $30,000, is there an appetite, do you think among the people that come to you for like an old-school pop-up parklet that is there for a month or two or summer months when it's warmer or where the microclimates where it's only going to be used for a couple months anyways. is there an appetite for that and have you given that consideration? >> so i think so the places or people ordinance is meant to tackle all the in betweens we weren't catching before the parklets used to be permitted through a director's order. now we have a platform where we can know how to permit all these >> so there's a different permitting regime for that kind of thing? >> right. it's a packet and you check the boxes where your specific type of idea comes and i do think they would still need a lot of documentation even for a temporary installation.

thank you. >> commissioner: commissioner laguana. >> i have a bunch of questions. what's the typical life span of one of these parklets? do people pop in for a year and get out or i know the program hasn't been in there that long. is there when it ceases to exit. -- exist. what could a neighborhood expect when one goes in? >> they're as diverse as the city and the city's diverse and it depends on the materiality of the materials because they're required to maintain them i think the oldest one is eight years old. some are still out there, four barrel, some have been there since they were pilots and it's more of how the community takes care of them and supports or not. we've seen some that within a couple years either the location was not that great or the community complained or there was some other project they had to remove but i think it depends on the conditions of each parklet. we've seen everything from a couple of years to eight or nine years. >> and what's the typical budget range for construction? i assume it's the host that comes up with that not the city.

. >> commissioner laguana. >> i'd like to echo what commissioner adams and dwight. i was listening earlier and thinking why can't they? it's essentially serving that purpose anyways. it seems like an arbitrary distinction that is lost on me. it's a great conversation to have. i can't speak for my fellow commissioners but i'm strongly in support of having that conversation. i'm sure there's a reason for it. i can't imagine what it was. if there's a reason let's have a conversation about what reasonable exception to that reason might be. >> commissioner: thank you. any other comments? thank you very much for your presentation. this was a very good presentation this evening. thank you very much and for coming tonight. >> thank you. >> commissioner: next item, please. >> clerk: approval of the minutes action item. >> commissioner: any comments on the minutes? >> nope. >> commissioner: do members of the public would like to comment on item number 5 the minutes? seeing none, public comment is closed. do we have a motion to approve the draft minutes for october 28? >> move

all exciting times and i'm honored to be a part of your nominations. >> commissioner: commissioner laguanat's amazing to come here and hear the stories and i just want to ratify on behalf of the commission it's so uplifting to us to hear all the passion and energy that you've put and the travails you have suffered through to survive in a city when it's uncommonly difficult for a small business to make it through so i commend all of you in particular i was moved by the family's passion ash -- around mums and i can relate to seeing how the years in front of you and your family and how it builds up over time. growing up i grew up with two a good foster parents and i remember reading tales of the city but speaking as a former professional musician i actually lived on capp street when i first moved here to san francisco and i didn't even know cmc was there to be honest. i'm astounded to discover that not only was it there but it's been there almost 100 years. what a remarkable extraordinary accomplishment to have an organization going like that so long and commissioner ortiz, i'd be happy to he

commissioner laguana? >> yeah. i wanted to say thank you for coming out. we respect working with the board of supervisors. we respect our leaders. we are here to -- purely as an advisory role. we don't have any teeth, as one of the speakers mentioned, so all we can do is ask questions with an effort to try and make the legislation better for all of us. everybody on this commission is a volunteer. we aren't paid a dime to come here, we aren't paid any money to try to evaluate the paperwork and make sense out of it. we're all small business owners. we're all in crisis, we're all struggling. i don't know if i'm going to make payroll this friday. i came here because you guys are here. so i just want to say thank you, it means a lot to us, and we will keep trying to push forward and make this better for all of us, all citizens of the city. let's just come together and make it better for all of us. we can do that. [applause] >> president adams: okay. next item, please. >> clerk: item three, approval of small business registry applications and resolutions. action