thank you. >> commissioner: commissioner laguana. >> i have a bunch of questions. what's the typical life span of one of these parklets? do people pop in for a year and get out or i know the program hasn't been in there that long. is there when it ceases to exit. -- exist. what could a neighborhood expect when one goes in? >> they're as diverse as the city and the city's diverse and it depends on the materiality of the materials because they're required to maintain them i think the oldest one is eight years old. some are still out there, four barrel, some have been there since they were pilots and it's more of how the community takes care of them and supports or not. we've seen some that within a couple years either the location was not that great or the community complained or there was some other project they had to remove but i think it depends on the conditions of each parklet. we've seen everything from a couple of years to eight or nine years. >> and what's the typical budget range for construction? i assume it's the host that comes up with that not the city.

. >> commissioner laguana. >> i'd like to echo what commissioner adams and dwight. i was listening earlier and thinking why can't they? it's essentially serving that purpose anyways. it seems like an arbitrary distinction that is lost on me. it's a great conversation to have. i can't speak for my fellow commissioners but i'm strongly in support of having that conversation. i'm sure there's a reason for it. i can't imagine what it was. if there's a reason let's have a conversation about what reasonable exception to that reason might be. >> commissioner: thank you. any other comments? thank you very much for your presentation. this was a very good presentation this evening. thank you very much and for coming tonight. >> thank you. >> commissioner: next item, please. >> clerk: approval of the minutes action item. >> commissioner: any comments on the minutes? >> nope. >> commissioner: do members of the public would like to comment on item number 5 the minutes? seeing none, public comment is closed. do we have a motion to approve the draft minutes for october 28? >> move

so supervisor laguana? >> i just wanted to second what commissioner ortiz said. there's an opportunity here i think as we are looking at this and re-examining this. when we come out on the other side and hopefully the measure is successful. there's an opportunity here to open things up a bit. and loosen some of the strangle hold on small business and particularly the young businesses just trying to get up off the ground. so i'm sure we'll have all of your cooperation and engagement on that. but looking forward to that and your comments are well-said. >> and i totally agree with what you just said, because that's what actually happened on divis adaro. things loosened up where i didn't think it would. and if you go down there right now, you don't see a lot of vacancies on that street between haight street and going up to geary boulevard. past geary, yes, but in that new second right now, it's like where they've opened up those upstairs and stuff, it's effective. it made a difference. okay. we are going to open this up for public comment. is there any members of the

all exciting times and i'm honored to be a part of your nominations. >> commissioner: commissioner laguana it's amazing to come here and hear the stories and i just want to ratify on behalf of the commission it's so uplifting to us to hear all the passion and energy that you've put and the travails you have suffered through to survive in a city when it's uncommonly difficult for a small business to make it through so i commend all of you in particular i was moved by the family's passion ash -- around mums and i can relate to seeing how the years in front of you and your family and how it builds up over time. growing up i grew up with two a good foster parents and i remember reading tales of the city but speaking as a former professional musician i actually lived on capp street when i first moved here to san francisco and i didn't even know cmc was there to be honest. i'm astounded to discover that not only was it there but it's been there almost 100 years. what a remarkable extraordinary accomplishment to have an organization going like that so long and commissioner ortiz, i'd be happy to

commissioners huie, laguana and yekutiel.an you confirm you have watched the meeting from december in order to participate in this item? >> yes >> yes. >> yes. >> fantastic. the presenter is richard kurylo, legacy business program manager, office of small business. >> thank you, commissioners, richard kurylo, legacy business program manager, sf gov tv, i have another powerpoint presentation. before you today is one additional application for your consideration for the legacy business registry. the application was reviewed by me for completion, submitted to planning department staff on august 19 and heard by the historic preservation commission on september 18. it was initially presented to the sbc on september 23. item 5 is adobe books and arts cooperative, inc, a bookstore founded in 1989 on 16th street in the mission. the store became a bohemian nexus for local artists, musicians, writers, readers and thinkers. in 2001, a gallery was opened in the back of the store where friends of the shop could show their work. the space

all exciting times and i'm honored to be a part of your nominations. >> commissioner: commissioner laguana. >> it's amazing to come here and hear the stories and i just want to ratify on behalf of the commission it's so uplifting to us to hear all the passion and energy that you've put and the travails you have suffered through to survive in a city when it's uncommonly difficult for a small business to make it through so i commend all of you in particular i was moved by the family's passion ash -- around mums and i can relate to seeing how the years in front of you and your family and how it builds up over time. growing up i grew up with two a good foster parents and i remember reading tales of the city but speaking as a former professional musician i actually lived on capp street when i first moved here to san francisco and i didn't even know cmc was there to be honest. i'm astounded to discover that not only was it there but it's been there almost 100 years. what a remarkable extraordinary accomplishment to have an organization going like that so long and commissioner ortiz, i'd be happy

. >> commissioner: commissioner laguana. >> i have a bunch of questions. what's the typical life span of one of these parklets? do people pop in for a year and get out or i know the program hasn't been in there that long. is there when it ceases to exit. -- exist. what could a neighborhood expect when one goes in? >> they're as diverse as the city and the city's diverse and it depends on the materiality of the materials because they're required to maintain them i think the oldest one is eight years old. some are still out there, four barrel, some have been there since they were pilots and it's more of how the community takes care of them and supports or not. we've seen some that within a couple years either the location was not that great or the community complained or there was some other project they had to remove but i think it depends on the conditions of each parklet. we've seen everything from a couple of years to eight or nine years. >> and what's the typical budget range for construction? i assume it's the host that comes up with that not the city.

commissioner laguana. >> commissioner laguana: chief, it's great to have you here. just a quick question. how can the small business commission help you and the small business advisory forum? how can we make this grow? is there anything we can bring to the table or contribute here? >> yeah, there's a couple of ways. one, if you feel there are individuals that should be on this advisory, i really well come your suggestion on what should participate. we have a really good group of individuals now, but as you know, sometimes people will move on, and there will be vacancy. and secondly, i think it's important that we're looping you in, letting you know what we're working on. and then, the two-way is to have this commission share what your concerns are in regards to safety and crime prevention and let us work on something together so we can come up with new and innovative ideas to deal with some of the issues that come up in our city. i think this is something new in the police department that we're kicked off. >> president adams: commissioner dooley? >> commissioner doo

commissioners huie, laguana and yekutiel.an you confirm you have watched the meeting from december in order to participate in this item? >> yes >> yes. >> yes. >> fantastic. the presenter is richard kurylo, legacy business program manager, office of small business. >> thank you, commissioners, richard kurylo, legacy business program manager, sf gov tv, i have another powerpoint presentation. before you today is one additional application for your consideration for the legacy business registry. the application was reviewed by me for completion, submitted to planning department staff on august 19 and heard by the historic preservation commission on september 18. it was initially presented to the sbc on september 23. item 5 is adobe books and arts cooperative, inc, a bookstore founded in 1989 on 16th street in the mission. the store became a bohemian nexus for local artists, musicians, writers, readers and thinkers. in 2001, a gallery was opened in the back of the store where friends of the shop could show their work. the space

. >> commissioner: commissioner laguana. >> i have a bunch of questions. what's the typical life span of one of these parklets? do people pop in for a year and get out or i know the program hasn't been in there that long. is there when it ceases to exit. -- exist. what could a neighborhood expect when one goes in? >> they're as diverse as the city and the city's diverse and it depends on the materiality of the materials because they're required to maintain them i think the oldest one is eight years old. some are still out there, four barrel, some have been there since they were pilots and it's more of how the community takes care of them and supports or not. we've seen some that within a couple years either the location was not that great or the community complained or there was some other project they had to remove but i think it depends on the conditions of each parklet. we've seen everything from a couple of years to eight or nine years. >> and what's the typical budget range for construction? i assume it's the host that comes up with that not the city.