i would have to say if it was any place else in america, if it was an laicha or california, don't you think public policy perhaps would have targeted those men? public policy has ignored african-american people. you know one of the reasons i wrote the book, tavis, is no matter how rough things are for our people, we do survive and thrive. if enslaved people could purchase themselves, the people they can think of entrepreneurial things to do. i'm concerned about the apathy in our community, the folks who take it lying down. i'm poor. i'm broke. broke is a state of pocketbook. poor is a state of mind. >> it is not just black folks who are suffering. a whole lot more white folk in poverty and unemployed than there are black folks so if white folks can't pull themselves up is it really that black folk are not creative enough? >> i'm not blaming us at all. i want to inspire us. look at folks who are able to put pennies together. a sister had a second grade education and started a bank. put the pennies together and they will grow. this recession has hurt middle america. black america. any a