. >> i think you design something to make sure it doesn't feed into lake iliamna. i mean, it's an engineering issue, not-not a physics issue. so we have to be able to engineer something that prevents that. and we're going to have to prove to people that our engineering work >> we'll have to have monitoring stations around the tailings facility that ensure that there's no seepage. we will also have seepage collection ponds downstream from the tailings facility and pump that water back into the tailings facility. downstream from there, we'll be monitoring wells where we'll have to meet the state and federal water quality standards. and if we're not meeting them, it's because we're not collecting all the seepage, so more seepage wells and ponds would be installed. >> anything that requires perpetual remediation scares me. this is an area of experimentation. and i don't believe that it's the place to experiment. if we saw one huge sulfide mine in a wet climate succeed and could follow it, it might be something to look at. but you can't find it even in mines that are ha