and excelsior up in sunnydale or over there, man in lakeview. why don't you help us out? we live right there. where you live downtown tenderloin. i'm like you, right? this is in juvenile hall. they locked up. i'm going to visit everybody else. it made sense. i said, yeah, we need to do what we're doing over there. so in 2005, i took up, asked mauricio vela. hey, mauricio, can i take what i started here and bring it to my neighborhood? he said, you sure can, rudy, but a pimp tell a hoe like he told me. you can take what the program, but you can't take none of the funding. oh, i said, all right. cool. i already made connections with gavin, mayor brown, whoever i needed to make it with through the duration of 94 to 2005. so i went there. i started with no money. nathan nathaniel. and said, how can i get some money, man, to start what? we started over there because it works in my neighborhood. and the brother name was eugene coleman. i don't know if you knew eugene coleman. he used to be in a nonprofit organization where i grew up called can and kip on eighth and natoma, but