the stay, they have a great governor, but the legislature just is in lala land we don't have to worry about revenues, so it's a disaster and so i think mitch daniels is an example of what can be done with good leadership in illinois. what happens with over time in a series of bad decisions made. by golly they come to bite and i will give a good word to even though people don't seem to like him anymore, scott walker in wisconsin. those reforms are starting to kick in. he took a lot of grief for it. i don't know why that campaign was so disastrously wrong, but in illinois-- i mean, wisconsin he did real things. wisconsin has always been a laboratory. progressive era, whether it was welfare reform or tommy thompson in the 80s became the basis for clinton's welfare reform in the mid- 90s and what walker has done, so that's what federalism is supposed to be about. see what works and then maybe do it nationally. >> host: just a few minutes left. bobby, tanto, south carolina. >> caller: first-time caller, so i'm kind of nervous. i'm 50. when i was 45, my family has a history of heart disease

. >> i swear, you will just go to louisia lala land. >> let's hear it for michael phelps.o the pool and came out of retirement at age 30. some people, wonder, are you too old. he is so far ahead. he swam the 200 meter butterfly. he crushed the competition, didn't just beat them. michael phelps has an interesting-looking physique. he has a swimmer's body. >> the longest torso i have ever seen. longer torso, shorter legs. >> i have a short torso and the longest legs. >> and you are proportioned just perfectly. >> just perfect but a little old, a little old for some people's taste. >> but think of all the experience you have. >> you would totally find out. >> they say this is what makes him a great swimmer. he is 6'4" but his wingspan, from the tip of his finger to the tip of his finger. >> it must be your middle finger, your longest one. >> don't put that there. it is 6'7". >> how tall are you, be honest? >> i'm 5'5" 1/2. >> let's see. >> i used to be 5'6" but i'm old now. >> grab that middle finger. put your other one out. >> hold on. >> this one says five feet. is that rig

you punch in kathie lee radio -- >> do it if you are having an mri, i swear, you will just go to lala landic. >> let's hear it for our friend, michael phelps. he returned to the pool and he came out of retirement at age 30 and some people wonder, are you too old? look, he is so far ahead, and there's n he swam the 200-meter butterfly. he has an interesting physique. >> he has the longest torso i have ever seen. >> the opposite of you. >> yeah, i have a short torso. and the longest legs god ever made. >> and you are proportioned just great. >> a little old for some people's taste. >> they say this is what makes him a great swimmer. >> okay. >> he is 6'4", but from the tip of his finger to the tip of his finger is 6'7". how >> 5'5" -- 5' 5 -- this says 5 feet. >> oh, then i have quite the span. >> yes, i do -- >> no, you are 5'5" and this is 5 feet, and they are suppose to be close to the same. >> this is -- >> no, you are 5'5" and this is 5'0". >> have you ever held a tape measure before? >> you know what i am going to you come over here? you are 5'9". that's how tall i am. i am 5'9" and th

she's in lala land but you have to think outside of the box. >> los angeles police sergeant believes she has the answer to the crisis facing many police departments across the country. and it starts with two simple words. i'm sorry. >> if we can understand the hatred and the mistrust and apologize for it. then you have your break through and you begin to make real change. the sergeant could not have chosen a more challenging community to put her philosophy to the test once. and this gang ridden los angeles neighborhood can sometimes feel like riding through a war zone. and history is always riding shotgun. and erupted in riots in 1965. what at times felt like a police state. it's residents on the verge. >> i think it was clear from the moment i set foot there 30 years agatha the community was at war with with the cops. >> civil rights lawyer connie rice has been battling to force the lapd to change it's ways for years. the predators saw the community as arrest numbers and people they can beat with their batons and shoots with the community and cops that love a kmun. >> she din need t