consider jenny lam. she was well spoken, and she does seem to have the elements of community interests. also, rachel ebora from district 9. i appreciate the questions about mr. hogarth, but when community interest, the works for both parties. it works for both sides. then we get different kinds of supervisors, and while it is kind of dis-uniting, we actually let the board of supervisors decide things at the board of supervisors and work and out there. supervisor kim: thank you. any other public comment? >> good morning, supervisors. i am a resident of district 11. i applaud everybody for being up here because it takes a lot of guts to get up here in front of you all, in front of supervisors, and just put it out there and at times get grilled. i am speaking on behalf of -- i am really supportive of maria and lupe. this task force is the right place where we could have new blood, new insight, a new generation of community activists that really want to contribute to our city. me, myself, personally, i can u

we have alonso, lam, mcdonnell. i am happy to put out these three individuals since they were on my list. supervisor farrell: that is fine with me. as it relates to ms. lam, but i have a concern -- nothing against your personally -- the conflict. i think that is real. i think she is a woman with young kids. that is great. we need that in the city more than anything. i was very ready to support the three i mentioned in the beginning. but i do want a strong stand from us going forward. and i believe those three would be terrific. supervisor kim: all right. we cannot forward these three with recommendation. we have mike alonso, jenny lam, and eric mcdonnell. we do have to make this decision by tuesday, june 28, which is why we call the special meeting today. really -- >> really quickly -- supervisor kim: i really want to thank our 23 applicants. it is great to see the breath of leadership and the passion. this is very important, one of the most important task force appointments the city is going to be making this year,

i wanted to voice my support for jenny lam and mr. james tracey. we believe they exhibit the independence and ability to work with communities of interest. i also wanted to speak on a more personal note for jenny. i have known her since first coming to the bay area six years ago. i have seen her in action and believe that she preserve the ability to both be able to voice her opinion and take a step back in discussions, and i think that is invaluable with a task force that is likely to be very controversial and in a lot of ways require a lot of work and collaboration between the other colleagues. again, wanted to strongly voiced my support for her and mr. james tracey to be appointed. believe it will be independent voices on this force. thanks. supervisor kim: thank you. seeing no other public comment, public comment is now closed on this item. we have actually been in session for a little over two hours, and i was hoping you will forgive my colleagues if we took a five- minute break. if there are no objections, we will take a five-minute break. we

they had been on the lam for 16 years ago a huge frustration for the fbi team in boston which says he was the ruthless lead earth of the winter hill gang. a mobster so notorious he was the inspiration for jack nicholson's character in "the departed." the fbi said he didn't resist arrest but was verbally combative. he face charges in connection with 19 murders as well as drug trafficking and money laundering. he was on the "10 most wanted list." he this say he was living with greig and charles and carol gasgo. it came in response to a new publicity campaign n boston they had just about given up hope. >> i thought he was gone forever. >> reporter: police there describe bulger as diabolical, among the most cold-blooded killers in criminal history and said his arrest finally brings relief to families of his alleged victims. >> this pursuit of justice was for them and to hold mr. bulger accountable for the carnage that left behind. >> reporter: the manager of bulger's apartment building says he had been living there for 15 years, nearly the entire time he was on the lam. >> reporter: and t

next we have jenny lam. >> a good morning, supervisors. thank you for the opportunity to share with you my interest and passion for serving on the redistricting task force. i have lived in san francisco for 14 years with the majority of those years of levin -- living in district 8. i am a proud at san francisco public school parent and committed to raising our family here in the city. san francisco is our home. as you see from my application, i have dedicated my professional life to working in the community with a variety of backgrounds working directly in social- service programs, to education, women's rights, advocacy and policy. i am the director of community relations at chinese affirmative-action and i'm proud of our work last year around the census. we were one of the leading organizations binding and that yes we count coalition which brought together 13 organizations looking to having deep roots in the community and injuring an accurate count in hard to count communities. in just a short amount of time, 13 organizations were able to

this is the lam of god and takes away the sins of the world. happy are we who are called to his supper. lord, aim not worthy to receive you, but only say the words and i shall be here. >>> we ask you if you are catholic and you are going to receive holy communion to please follow the directions of the ushers. if you are not catholic, and you would like to have a blessing, we would like to ask you to come up to the altar and the priest will be happy to give you a blessing. >>> lord, you have come to the seashore, knight searching for the rich nor the wise. desiring only that i should follow. oh, lord, with your eyes upon me, gently smiling, you have spoken my name. all i longed for i have found by the water. at your side, i will seek -- -- >> lord,, see my my goods, my positions, in my boat you find no power, no wealth. will you accept then my net an labor. oh, lord with your eyes upon me, gently smiling you have spoken my name. all i long for i have found by the water. at your side, i will seek other shores. lord, take my hand and direct them.

usa lam usa! >> stephen: all right. i hope we can capture that in print. in fact, in fact, folks, bells and warning shots have been kept out of our history books for far too long. we're neglecting to teach our children about the great american tradition of warning our enemies that we are about to attack them. (laughter) >> stephen: who can forget when general eisenhower knocked on hitler's door and said hey, adolf we're landing at normandy, here's a warning shot, ding dong you bastard. and then our boys stormed the beach at normandy with bells around their necks. (laughter) >> stephen: didn't see that in saving private ryan. and for those who say it is implausible for revere to have ridden a horse while ringing a bell and firing multiple warning shots from a front loading muss ket, all i have to say is, prepare to eat historical reenactments. here we go. (cheers and applause) yes, all right okay. okay, got that right there. there you go. just like that. see, i got my powder magazine. actually two different types of powder. okay. put that in there. okay. i

we got our lam shoulder. we've been cooking it over charcoal. we're going to put it in a pan.nite juice, fresh. chick peas that are soaked with water and baking soda. of the baking soda loosens up the skin a little bit. we're going to throw it in the oven. >> my mother would make stir fry all the time. she would sneak in liver, you know, that was like how i would start eating liver would be like underneath brown sugar and sherry. >> we're going to yank it out as gently as we can. we serve it with crispy persian style rice. herbs into the rice. this is a lamb shoulder. good stuff. delicious. the cooks that we have here are now cooking things that my family has cooked forever. my people, not to sound like biblical. we get to make so many people happy here on a regular basis. that is something that i love. ♪ >>> the recipes are on our website. that's our report for tonight. we hopeou

won't accept any more military bases to be better and it won't accept any more more machines on its lam street and therefore we say no to all military facilities because he added to those that come in arms we say go home. in two thousand and seven the us revealed its plans for a new military base and the chance of italy just a few miles away from the city's historical center. already hosts a u.s. military base because that. home to the southern european task force and one of ten major u.s. bases in italy area designated for the new base is the exhibition airport that. the plans for the new base include forty eight buildings over twenty acres of land i couldn't give a damn about the chance of because if it said you have four people if it said three or four are over the age of ninety and the base is a nothing of a base it doesn't generate smoke noise then no planes landing so anybody of complacent beachheads from high point of view is a dirty commie ok but why because the italian government to reach and your card is of decided yes and they want to make a noise even though these are entire

>> he's been on the lam since 1994. and just days ago the bureau released a new public service announcement in his case. >> he has a violent temper and is charged with 19 murders. call the tip line at 1-800-call-fbi. >> bulger was captured tonight in, of all places, santa monica. abc news's pierre thomas covers tus. and he joins us now from washington. pierre, tell us how this went down. >> reporter: terry, what happened to whitey bulger had been one of the most perplexing questions for the fbi for nearly two decades. the alleged boston crime boss had simply disappeared. at one point the fbi even thought he might be in europe. it turns out he was right here in the u.s. tonight bulger was arrested along with his girlfriend in santa monica not far from the beach. apparently, the relationship with the girlfriend is what did bulger in. that psa the fbi launched earlier this week was in an effort to reignite interest in this long cold case. it did not take long to get a response. a tip came in pointing to santa monica as the

. >> reporter: the fact that the two brothers kept in contact, even after whitey went on the lam, would later prove an embarrassment for billy bulger. a committee put him on the hot seat. >> i know my brother stands accused of many things. serious, brutal crimes. i do still live in the hope that the worst of the charges against him will prove groundless. >> reporter: in another twist of the plot, billy bulger's first campaign manager, john conley, ended up joining the fbi. whitey bulger was his informant, a position he used to eliminate rival italian mob sterps and consolidate his own grip on power. >> he has always conquered and divide law enforcement here in boston so that they were at each other's throats. that one element of law enforcement, namely the fbi, was perceived as protecting him and was found, you know, beyond any reasonable doubt to have protected him, to have allowed people who were willing to testify against him to be murdered. >> reporter: that fiasco was one reason bulger ranked so high on the fbi's most wanted list. yes, he's believed to have been a major drug traffi

lam bar lombard strd this building has contentious past and the owners want to lift it up and put a story underneath and the reason they want to lift it up throughout the city street elevations have been adjusted and as the streets get improved and the city heights don't get adjusted and many driveways go down into the garage. >> or windows below the street that makes no sense. >> and the streets of elevated and graded and of course the building settles but not that must have and the original flow of the thi-- floor of the build. >> i of in the building. >> me too. >> you are looking at the second floor now. >> the first floor. i live in the sunset and my kids pointed this out to me as the ninja house and orteega street and built in 1953 at the top of a cliff. isn't that wonderful? $11,000 for mr. r hess so people have said we have a lot of narrow buildings. i went out history and measured this building. it's 9 feet ten and a half inches wide. >> the lot is a little more. there is an inch and a half on both sides. >> this is a real landmark. >> there is the dog. >> there is the required d

after james bulger entered a massachusetts jail, we've learned new details about his 16 years on the lam charged with a laundry list of crimes including 19 murders, the 81-year-old gangster that looks more like a grandpa has been described as chatty while behind bars.xd lindsay seer dated bulger and knew him as jimmy. >> we had a very nice life together. he was a wonderful father. he was very supportive. >> reporter: housed in plymouth county's notorious g unit, bulger is surrounded by other high-profile inmates, all considered dangerous. for 23 hours a day he's confined to a cell. bulger can shower, walk a caged yard or make a phone call during his one free hour. a far cry from life on the run lived in the open. bulger called santa monica home. neighbors say he was often seen at the bustling third street promenade. didn't seem to matter much police and surveillance cameras lined the walk. bulger is also said to have routinely crossed into mexico, slipping back and forth over the border with a fake id to buy medicine. for all those years it seems james bulger wasn't trying to hide as muc

statute of limitations issues, you might want to look more towards -- you might also consider jenny lam. she was well spoken, and she does seem to have the elements of community interests. also, rachel ebora from district 9. i appreciate the questions about mr.

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. >> he had been on the lam, wanteded for more than a decade.e's a predator in every sense of the word and took advantage of the community he was from. >> alleged mobster james whitey bulger fled boston in late 1994 as the federal agents were about to arrest him in connection with 19 killings, racketeers and other crimes that spanned the early 1970s to mid-1980s. >> do you know who i am? >> he was so notorious he was the inspiration for "the departed." a 2006 martin scorsese film starri starring dicaprio, jack nicholson. >> bulger has to be caught. sooner the better. >> the f.b.i. recently stepped up the efforts to find his girlfriend. kathryn. they disappeared in 1995 with a $2 million reward for information leading to his capture. the 60-year-old faces charges of harboring a fugitive. recent publicity produced a tip to lead agents to santa monica. they were arrested without incident. kathryn was known for her multiple surgeries and her hygiene. she made monthly visits to a dentist for cleanings. john hendren, abc7 news. >>> cal's baseball team

to james "whitey" bulger the notorious mobster captured in southern california after 16 years on the lam. 81-year-old bulger will be returned soon possibly today to the scene of most of his alleged crimes, boston. kendis gibson has more. >> reporter: invisible for 16 years, a balding james "whitey" bulger smiled as he was led away by law enforcement agents from a federal courthouse in los angeles, the reputed head of boston's winter hill gang will finally answer to charges, including 19 murders. >> he was ordered by the court to be transferred to boston. >> reporter: bulger led the fbi on a worldwide manhunt since his 1995 disappearance. it turns out he'd been living at this apartment in santa monica. the fbi got its break after a series of daytime tv announcements focusing on bulger's long time girlfriend, catherine greig. >> have you seen this woman? >> reporter: a credible tip came in. >> security concerns prompted the agents to lure bulger out of his residence and they took him into custody. >> reporter: they seized 30 guns and hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash. bulger and gre

. >>> plus the latest on mob boss whitey bulger's bizarre life on the lam. >>> and the bird men who jumpedme after being profiled by "60 minutes" talk about their incredible death-defying stunts. >>> that's the "cbs morning news" for this tuesday. thanks for watching, everybody. i'm betty nguyen. have a great day. everybody. i'm betty nguyen. have a great day. ,,,,,, denny's new tour of america menu. 50 star cuisine. the new tour of america menu. starting at $4.99. only at denny's. america's diner is always open.

after gia, jenny lam. >> good morning. thank you for including me. my name is gia daniller-katz, and i am here today because i would love the opportunity to serve as a member of the redistricting task force and to serve the city in committee in this way. my interest in the special assignment stems from my passion for san francisco, a deep commitment to community involvement, as well as community engagement. i have interests in all things political. i have been actively involved in civic affairs in san francisco and with various community and political organizations for the past 15 + years. i worked in areas around urban planning, environmental issues, women's issues, and have been very involved in the jewish community. i am a past president, like my good friend and colleague, adjacent p -- jason porth, in the club. i am running a small business providing government and community relations consulting services. what i wanted to highlight for you is the fact that i have considerable experience in the community outreach fund and also a very strong group

. >> reporter: he had been on the lam, wanted for more than a decade. >> he is a predator in every sense of the word and took advantage of the very community that he was from. >> reporter: alleged mobster james "whitey" bulger fled boston in late 1994 as federal agents were about to arrest him in connection with 19 killings that span ned the 1970s to 1980s. >> do you know when i am? >> reporter: he was so notorious, he was the inspiration for "the departed" starring leonardo dicaprio and jack nicholson. >> bottom line is bulger has to be caught and the sooner the better. this has gone on long enough. >> reporter: they recently stepped up their efforts to find his girlfriend, catherine greig. >> we focused on manicurists, beauty salons, veterinarian clinics. anybody that may have had contact with her. >> reporter: greig and bulger disappeared in 1995 with a $2 million reward for information leading to his capture. the 60-year-r-d greig faces charges of harboring a fugitive. >> we look to publicize the bulger case worldwide in order to, in essence, make his world smaller for him. >> report

and proudly filling in details of 16 years on the lam. bulger, who was arrested last week in california, said he made several trips to las vegas to play the slots. he also went to tijuana, mexico, to buy prescription drugs and even returned to boston heavily armed to "take care of some unfinished business." there is news in politics tonight, seven months before the iowa caucuses, michele bachmann announced she's a candidate for the republican presidential nomination. bachmann, a tea party favorite, is a 55-year-old former tax attorney serving her third term as a congresswoman from minnesota. she's mother of five and, over the years, foster mother to 23. jan crawford has day one of the bachmann campaign. >> reporter: michele bachmann made the case today that she is in the race to win. >> i am here today in waterloo, iowa, to announce we can win in 2012 and we will win! ( cheers and applause) >> reporter: just two weeks after a strong showing in the republican debate, bachmann enters the race already in a statistical dead heat in iowa with

but first, new details on his life on the lam. for that here's nbc's lee cowan. >> reporter: in the end, james "whitey" bulger's best disguise may have just been old age. he and his girlfriend catherine greig looked like any other east coast transplant in search of a little california sun. >> they were very charming. for catalina they were the gasko's. the most-wanted pair lived in the apartment right above her for the last 15 years. >> you never know who is next to you. >> reporter: their home stood out for nothing. and neither did they. except, perhaps, that whitey was known for his temper. >> my experience of him was, he was a kind of what i call, he wasn't a very well-balanced person. and she was putting up with a lot. >> reporter: neighbors say he kept to himself more than she did. that didn't raise any eyebrows. they were out in public enough, not to appear to be hiding anything, but not social enough to let anyone too close. >> they were not. >> reporter: the only thing that might have caused suspicion is the manager here s

. >> yes, he's been on the lam all this time.le for a number of murders, drug distribution, extortion, you name it, the list of accusations goes on and on. >> and even there is rewards posted to try to bring this guy in. they weren't getting any bites on that. they really took a different tactic. it turned out this way. >> very unusual way. >> yes. >>> also this half hour, a shocking story from a portland, oregon, hospital. where police say a 21-year-old man has been masquerading around portraying a plastic surgeon. see why the scheme was probably not very difficult to carry out, which would worry some folks. >> yes. anybody masquerading as a doctor would raise an eyebrow or two, i can imagine. >>> also it's a big day this friday. we're talking about national bring your dogs to work day. getting ready for work? do you have the pooch all ready to go? we have posted a quiz on facebook about dogs and the people that own them. there you see right there. some of the "world news now" staffers and their pooches over there. even a stray

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on comedy central, he's the monkey on the lam. >> oh my god! he may not be a monkey at all!g iggy pop! >> reporter: vernon yates has been trying to drop the rhesus monkey and says he's not getting a lot of love these days. >> it's actually going to be best for him to be caught. >> reporter: but his fans aren't so sure. steve osunsami, abc news, atlanta. >> maybe they need "wanted" posters or something with his picture on it. >> i'm rooting for the monkey. we'll see, follow up on that guy. >>> a much more disciplined but somewhat confused animal is turning heads in england. >> we're talking about nancy the chihuahua. she thinks she is a sheepdog. and the sheep actually agree. she only weighs about 2 1/2 pounds but that's not stopping her from skillfully rounding up flocks with ease. >> look at her go! >> ever been chased by a chihuahua? >> she means business. nancy's owners say she honed her shepherding skills by watching border collies in action. i mean, they're the typical dog that would do that work. >> i like it. >> nancy, she's on the job. >> she's doing a great job. we'

he's been on the lam 16 years. he talked about dreaming and snapping bulger's neck., we're going to put it on the blog. go to cnn.com/brooke. >>> what happens when you give a bunch of politicians bats and balls and send them on a field with a bunch of reporters? believe it or not, no one got hurt. although i do hear brianna keilar might have pulled something. she's coming up next with your political pop. watch this. >> we are ready to go. >> we came from behind last year. we're going to stay in front the whole time this year. >> uh-oh, ladies talking some smack. it is washington's answer to the league of their own. they threw in a supreme court justice for good measure and a very, very pregnant dana bash. did you see that? stay with us. sprint. its powerful tools help you work faster and smarter so you can get back to playing "angry birds." it lets you access business forms on the go, fire off e-mails with the qwerty keypad, and work securely around the world so you can get back to playing "angry birds." it's the android-powered phone that mixes business with pleasur

. >> he had been on the lam, wanted for a decade. >> a predator in every sense of the word and took advantage fled boston when the federal agents were about to connect him with other crimes from the early 1970 to mid-1980s. >> do you know who i am? >> he was so notorious, he was the inspiration for "the departmented" martin scorsese film starring jack nicholson. >> bottom line, bulger has to be caught. the sooner the better. this has gone on long enough. >> they stepped up the effort to find the girlfriend, kathryn greeg. they disappeared in 1995 with $2 million award leading to the capture. kathryn faces charges of harboring a fugitive. recent publicity produced a tip that led agents to santa monica. they were arrested without incident. the girlfriend was known for multiple visits to dentists for cleanings. john hendren, abc news. >>> coast guard helicopter is safely on the ground after an emergency landing in the east bay a short time ago. this is a live look at the scene in alameda where the coast guard chopper landed. it was on patrol before 5:00. searching over the bay waters for a possi

he was arrested after 16 years on the lam.oston yesterday, bulger claimed he can't afford a lawyer. the judge gave him until monday to file a financial affidavit showing why he can't. >>> now back to new york's new same sex marriage law. governor andrew cuomo signed it last night, just hours after the legislature approved it. when it takes effect in 30 days, new york will become the sixth state to allow gay marriage. i talked with our legal guys, avery friedman and richard herman about the impact of the new law. >> this is a raging national issue, fredricka. and the states are having to address it as new york did this past weekend in passing this legislation. it will indeed require employers to look at employees as married couples, even though they're same sex. but there is another powerful piece of this that i think warrants attention. and that is the problems that same sex relationships have had at the time where another significant other is dying or is in a hospital. the obstructions that these individuals have suffered hav

on the lam for a long time, okay, kristine lazar down in l.a., thank you very much. >>> 5:13 now. a south bay family gets sick after drinking bottled water. the scare prompting one store to take action. >>> plus, an extremely close call on a runway out in new york. how a pilot's quick thinking stopped a head-on collision. >>> and if you do plan on traveling around, well, looks like heading out of sfo not too bad. 65, clouds, mix of sun and clouds of sunshine. we'll so more clouds heading across the country and the possibility of some showers as you make your way into the chicago area. very comfortable 68 degrees by the afternoon. continuing onwards towards new york storm clouds gathering just a bit so the possibility of some thunderstorms, a little muggy, too. 81 degrees and warm. ,,,,,, [ diane lane ] is your anti-wrinkle cream gone... but not your wrinkles. new neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair. its retinol formula smoothes wrinkles in just one week. why wait if you don't have to. neutrogena®. [ eves ] years ago, i hurt my shoulder drag racing. that's when i decided to take it ea

19 years on the lam ends for whitey bulger and the rhythm and songs of paul simon. first, the other news of the day. here's hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: afghanistan faces a possible constitutional crisis after a special court ruled today that 62 members of parliament were elected by fraud. the tribunal threw out the results in a quarter of last year's parliamentary races. president hamid karzai created the court, after rivals made major gains in the elections. parliament serves as the only check on karzai's authority. four bombs exploded across baghdad today, killing at least 40 iraqis and wounding more than 80. the attacks targeted shi-ite sections of the capital. an american civilian was killed in a separate bombing. the u.s. state department said he was working for the agency for international development. the obama administration has announced plans to release 30 million barrels of oil from the strategic petroleum reserve. other countries will contribute a like amount, to make up for lost production in libya. the u.s. release amounts to less than two days w

investigators say during his 16 years on the lam, he made several gambling trips to las vegas and returnedhis hometown of boston several times armed in disguise. >> unbelievable that he could manage that. >> just to go back to boston, because he lived in south boston, which is a very tight- knit community, and if he was in town, you know, you would figure someone would say guess who was down the street, that kind of thing. maybe not. afraid of what may or may not have happened. the fact that he was in vegas, crazy, crazy. >>> snakes, lizards, dogs and cats, no animal left behind. why there is an effort to ban all pet sales in a bay area city. >> and taking on the story of a seal team 6. the graphic novel about the mission to kill the world's most wanted terrorist osama bin laden. >>> time for your travel forecast. the clouds are rolling in. showers becoming likely at sfo. no delays yet. but that could change. temperatures 63 degrees. across the state, nice weather pulling into chicago today. sunny and 79 today. if you continue toward new york, clouds are thickening up and, yes, there is a

more or less as abby said a common law wife, theresa stanley she decide shed didn't want to be on the lam with him so he dropped her off and went to get kathy grieg. he picked her up in a down by the heels beach here in boston called malibu beach. that's where their run began. and if you go across country and walk down the promenade in santa monica and walk out on the pier and turn right up in the distance you can see the real malibu beach. >> rose: (laughs) >> great point. >> rose: what kind of conversations are you having today, abby, with... following this story? >> well, a team of us, our conversations are people who live in that apartment building and around it out in santa monica. people of various law enforcemt agencies who have followed him in this case over the year people who've written books on the case. god know there is have been a lot of them. and just people in... out in boon on a street because really, like, everybody was waking each other up in the night last night, it wasn't just reporters, it was so many people in boston with the news. and people couldn't sleep and peop

maybe atheist, there is diversity but they have a respect for meditation, for dali lam, they go to tibet and-- . >> rose: it is almost how to-- they look at t i think, in terms of some process to unleash. >> right. >> rose: the self-conscious. >> or to see it so daniel seigel one of the scientists, researcher says it's like you are traveling through the city with a flashlight. and you can see a part of the reality very brightly. but then you turn off the flashlight and you can see everything dimly. and when you can shut down your conscious mind are you turning off the flashlight and you are aware of a lot more it may not be as bright but yourawareness widens. and that's what achieves in a meditative state it may be though, they d't really know ts, what early childhood is like. allison gothnick who has been on this program, talks about this. >>ose: speaking of childhood there used to be sort of childhood adolescence, adulthood and death, i guess. >> those were the four stages. you have now added the odyssey yearas well as something that com before, i think retirement years which comes bef