and lamar smith during that time as the chairman on the subcommittee on immigration. and frankly, we should have done something then. it is difficult to bark and have no teeth. and congress has been barking. we've been in conflict. we opposed each other. the two distinct sides of the aisle, if you will. we've done nothing. and i would ask myself the question, how many national guard and border security can you put at a border and think anything is going to occur for people who are struggling and desperate and are coming into this country to work? so it is a chicken and egg situation and frankly you need a system of laws that allow people to enter the country fairly so that you can stop the onslaught of those who say, i'm simply coming and we know it is because during this recession, mayor, jeff and two all of you, you've seen a downsizing of sorts of those coming across the border. they want to work. so i think the question that i'd like to build on and the series of questions is, one, i think the business community has a remarkable opportunity to be able to speak elo

. >> republican congressman lamar smith to the rescue. >> there was an independent study done that actually showed that fox was the most fair of all the television news programs. if you're coming from a liberal perspective, it might seem conservative. to the objective observer, fox has both sides more often than the other three networks. >> oddly, mr. smith has a point about both sides. here's mr. murdoch back in june discussing immigration with somebody who looks like host steve deucy. >> you touched a moment ago, mr. murdoch, on the politics of this. this is a political hot potato. how do you get by the partisan so out there and so biting for a while? >> i don't know. but i think it can be done. i think the mayor has shown how you get past it in the city of new york. i think we can show to the public the benefits of having migrants and the jobs that go with that. >> perhaps sensing panic and/or betrayal from the fox viewer at home, after the boss left, the real steve deucy kicked out his more reasonable avatar and got everybody back on message. >> tell us about the threat of illegal amnes

lamar smith knows that we set together on this committee, myself as the ranking member. and lamar smithuring that time as the chairman on the subcommittee on immigration. and frankly, we should have done something then. it is difficult to bark and have no teeth. and congress has been barking. we've been in conflict. we opposed each other. thtwo distinct sides of the aisle, if you will. we've done nothing. and i would ask myself the question, how many national guard and bder security can you put at a border and think anything is going to occur for people who are struggling and desperate and are coming into this country to work? so it is a chicken and egg siation and frankly you need a system of laws that allow people to enter the country fairly so that you can stop the onslaught of those who say, i'm simply coming and we know it is because during this recession, mayor, jeff and two all of you, you've seen a downsing of sorts of those coming across the border. they want to work. so i think the question that i'd like to build on and the series of questions is, one, i think