loss of laughed ones but they're also beginning to ask questions they want to know why their region lamberty which is one of the richest in italy was so hard hit stefano fusco scran father died in a care home he's now collecting the stories of other covered 9000 victims we just want to know the truth we want to know if it was just a fatality or if there is someone at the high level of power in the authorities not the doctor or sort of nurses that have the possibility to contain this feeling or even to avoid fusco and others say the worst affected parts of the region should have been closed down at an early stage they criticize the region's far right president in milan for putting profits before people can see them but before we find out who is responsible we have to understand whether or not we made mistakes from the region's point of view i think we try to give all possible answers and take all possible preventions at a time when we were confronting an extraordinary situation at a time when nobody knew much about the virus. from back in bed again will kyoto bio says the citizens will have t

plane down of the virus sounds very familiar i hear that quite often when i meet people here who lamberti joins us now she's a psychologist at the honors gothenburg university off mines please tell me why is that why do some people feel the need to trivialize this pandemic so when you trivialize the pandemic it doesn't seem like a threat to you so it's less dangerous and that's one coping strategy that you can choose and from germany reno that 17 percent of the germans believe that the whole thing is to hold people just made up and what about those those others those who have quite fanciful conspiracy theories if i meet one of those how should i deal with someone spreading such stories should i get into a discussion or just listen and or leave them behind. so it of course always depends on the situation if you see something on social networks on facebook or twitter you won't convince the person usually back you can post something against the others that are not quite conspiracy believers yet that they see that this information is wrong and this is especially important when people spread a

a little earlier i spoke to the co president of the european greens philip lamberti and brussels i also hope to mistake here is that leaders will be able to reach an agreement on the on that recovery fund. terry your last i don't know i would say shift issue. some speak about the fact that he said he could be going to 0 and no one would be going to be included this month but frankly speaking i do not know what new element would sort of face. the landscape i mean all the elements are on the table all of her uterus. economy consequence is needed responses are on the table and now is for the european leaders to show that they are leaders at least able to rise to the occasion and show political courage like chancellor merkel did earlier this month when she decided to make a u. turn and so-called. borrowing by the europeans don't seem dead so says the german government center if you will still far you said no no no new elements on the table but it appears there are the czech prime minister for example said he wants to be able to use the coronavirus money for the car industry bulgaria wants t