laminated glass -- >> so laminated glass is actually a fairly strong material. you know, again, if you hit it in the center, it is. it's a little weaker on the edges because what happens is it can kind of chip, and sometimes it will run, or whatever. so the edges -- because essentially you're talking about two pieces of eight inch glass. the edges are a little bit fragile. but, you know, that's what happens. essentially, you've got point of impact there, but it all stays together. and so in a quake or whatever, in an accident, auto glass, we used a lot of that in the auto industry, a lot of lamination. so this is what works pretty well for that. plastic, you know, plastic is easy. we're doing more complicated plastic, but great material, except scratches, it does all sorts of things, and it burns. not the perfect product. another instance that we're talking about, that is what do we do with mirrors. mirrors are essentially quarter inch glass, with a silver backing. and so the -- how do you protect those. these can't be tempered. they can't -- technically they ca

and so laminated is probably most skylights that we do are laminated. or an insulated glass, where the laminated is on the bottom, and tempered is on the top. >> with an air space -- >> with an air space. the laminated, at one time, they used to sell tempered skylights but they really didn't work terribly well. yes it breaks into little safety cubes but if it's falling from 100 feet above -- >> the code had a provision that you had to have a net underneath to catch the pieces, if it broke. >> which i'm using. so at this point, not going there. it's laminated on the bottom, tempered on the top, so that a fireman can really walk over this on the rooftop, and whatever. you know, it's good for the top. bottom is protected. so that's primarily where most wire glass has gone. >> just a comment about skylights in the building code. skylights of glass can be located at any distance from that property line protection that i mentioned earlier. typically in san francisco when you're on a property line you have to have a one hour wall. olderbles don't have it but a

. >> these are what we call laminations. they will be bent around the presses that you see around the room, and that will form the shape of the piano that everybody's familiar with. >> how do they bend the wood? >> we don't use any steam. we don't use any water. we don't use anything extra special to do this other than really brute force. >> in fact, these presses have been here since the late 1800s. the process was invented and patented by steinway. >> what'll happen is, we'll take those laminations. they'll run through what we call a glue wheel, which will put glue on both sides of those laminations. we'll bring it over to a press, and literally there are seven or eight guys that will manhandle those laminations around that press. they will put on what we call coles and presses, which are these things down here, and when they're done, it'll look like that. that will stay in there now for the rest of the day. >> when the bending process is complete, this is what we've got -- the rim of a grand piano. >> when we come back, w

laminating and coating in 2006. sold it four years later. >> this company is in martinsville, virginia, a town very badly hurt. it's now the word leader in laminate provider. it sells to every country in the world. 60 or 70 new jobs got created during our ownership. >> reporter: you put in $13 million and you got out $130? >> our investment, yes. >> reporter: hendrickson thinks it's only fair that the riverside team paid the same low tax on that gain as its investors. 15% as opposed to the higher corporate tax rate of 39.2%. the obama administration says private equity firms like hers and hedge fund managers ought to be paying. >> if you take that away, i suppose the incentives aren't the same because i might as well just invest in the stock when i can sell whenever i want. rather than investing in a long-term company where i've tied up my money for eight years potentially. >> reporter: the operative word here is inventive. and that brings us to corporate taxes. the u.s. rate ranks among the highest compared with ot

. >> be experience begins with the glass facades that was designed with over 120 laminated glass panels captures the experience of being under or over clouds when flying in a plane. depending on the distance or point of view, it can appear clear for more abstract and atmospheric. the subtle colors change gradually depending on the light and the time of day. >> i wanted to create an art work that looks over time as well as working on in the first glance. the first time you come here, you may not see a. but you may be able to see one side over the other. it features a couple of suspended sculptures. each was created out of a series of flat plains run parallel to each other and constructed of steel tubing. >> it is made up of these strata. as the light starts to shift, there is a real sense that there is a dynamism. >> it gives the illusion that this cultures might be fragments of a larger, mysterious mass. >> the environmental artwork livens it with color, light, and the movement. three large woven soldiers are suspended. these are activated by custom air flow program. >> i channeled air

we does use this in lieu of laminant >> linoleum is a linseed based >> pressed linseed. on a jute backing. it's a double whammy. >> the photo luminescent signs, we didn't have to put in electric signs. we are using the daylight to charge the photo luminescent. >> the building code allows you to use is that. there are 2 sides to it all. this is a very toxic waste. you have to deal with it in a toxic waste manner. when we recently changed from arsenic treated woods, it's corroding, we saved something, but we have to look at the unintended consequences >> part of the learning about green was dealing with things like these exit signs. we made a field trip to the permit department and actually presented, robin had accumulated information on this and where it had been accepted. we anticipated an inspector would come in. there's definitely battles to be fought. >> you guys are pioneers. >> when beverly and her staff were moving to this space, there were going through a branding. we took that idea and put in it in a 3 dimensional space. it's a very identifiable from any point in

i picture him with a laminated list, no pay, no watch. he went crazy because morgan free man was added. he had to leave work early to go to kinkos and add him to the list. >> this sounds like the incredible hulk review, no pay, no watch. >> here is the thing, kailey, jason is saying there is such a huge amount of liberal -- is that true or is it just that there is an equal number of conservative ones and no better than to speak up? >> i absolutely agree with that. i heard rumors that angelina jolie was coming out for mccain, but obviously it was going down the drain. in terms of the story, of course i am not turned off on going to a movie if i know the actor has liberal views. where i am turned off is where it is giving me a liberal message. of a vaw tar -- avatar for intrans. >> "wizard of dogs." >> socialism. did any of those dogs pay for any of the movies? >> what was the message in "avatar"? don't kill blue people? >> the invasion of iraq. >> james cameron made it known. >> i see a magical science fiction. >> he was against people hol

this is brought to you by bill's carpet, hardwood and laminate, too. call them at 1-877-75-bills.ack to you. >>> it's time to trick or treat. and despite the economy, this is a day for trick-or-treating upon. >> i managed to track down trick or treaters before they got in on all of the action. these are timonium locals. judging by the lines at both places, consumers aren't feeling as much of an impact as would have thought. some estimate that people will spend as much as $700. >> consumers stock up and candy and do r do r -- decor. >> they sell a lot of merchandise this year. >> according to the national retail federation, americans plan to spend almost $7 billion this halloween. that's a "b" as in boo. $2.5 billion is expected to go towards costumes. and $2 billion on candy. >> even though in a recession, i mean, i'm working. so i'm good. i'm not in a recession. >> i'm going to be like sandra dee. so i already have the pants that i already own ask a black shirt and stuff. >> so you're saving money this halloween? >> yes. >> and here in baltimore county, we caught up with their ho

this traffic report is brought to you by bill's carpet and hardwood laminate.to you. >> thank you. >>> breaking a sweat with the ravens. dozens spend the day inside m&t bank stadium. it is a national initiative. >> about 100 students from federal hill preparatory schools are participating in the first the nfl movement to get kids active or moving for a day. >> and to show them how important physical activity is. ravens player tory smith and carrie williams played along. >> opportunity to get back. talk to them. >> you know, they take a lot of emphasis on like the academics in school. they need to stay healthy and stay in shape. >> reporter: this is all part of an nfl initiative. all 32 teams across the country are participating in similar. >> students say it's a once-in- a-lifetime opportunity. and they'll never forget what being healthy is all about. >> playing games. and like exercising. and having fun. >> reporter: andrea fujii, wjz eyewitness news. >> and if those games look familiar, it's because they are from the harry potter series. and the ravens are ba

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i had a paper that i printed for my computer and laminated at a local store and i never once had a problem with papers. a haitian american, dreadlocks, very professional, she could not get on to the log base, unless she waited outside on the road and hopped into my car. if i drove through the gate and flashed my card, she never had a problem getting onto the base. for those who did manage to get on base, they found themselves surrounded by foreigners. the meetings were held in english, which is a language that the haitians do not meet. eventually, the language was french, which is also not the predominant language in haiti. they speak creole. very quickly, we saw homeless earthquake victims, families that had gone to live in the parks and public places of port- au-prince -- initially, there were 1.5 million internally displaced people -- they quickly became referred to as squatters and trespassers by the humanitarian aid workers who were part of the system. because people were coming in on these contracts, they were held to these crazy security standards and never interacted with the haiti

this traffic report is brought to you by bill's carpet, hardwood and laminate, too. back over to you. >> kristy, thank you. >>> after a year at war, an emotional homecoming for members of maryland's national guard. alex demetrick reports, difficult separations were bridged in an instant. >> reporter: you know how it's going to end, even if you can't hear it. after goodbyes one year ago. >> how does it compare? [ laughter ] >> well, at least this is a happy day. last year was a sad day. >> reporter: and the last morning of waiting came at aberdeen proving grounds in harford county. families of 80 maryland national guard members. >> they worked through iraq and afghanistan. and they supervised and managed aviation maintenance for all of the aviation units in both countries. >> reporter: and families managed in their own ways. mary sinclaire carried out a photo of her husband, called flat bill. >> family is always there for things in the house. storms, earthquakes, hurricanes. but survived it. >> reporter: for family, technology like skype made a long year survivable. >

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this is brought to you by bill's carpet, hardwood and laminate, too. back to you. >>> talk about going out on top. the st. louis cardinals' long- time manager tony larussa wins the world series and then retires. he made the announcement this morning, saying, quote, it's just time to do something else. with 2,728 victories, larussa ends his career with the third most victories of any manager. >> he can't quit. he's got to go to disneyworld first. then he can quit. >> good point. >>> i'm sure the folks out there are going to miss him. >>> straight ahead on eyewitness news at 4:00. sugar studies. the surprising results that have soda wars coming under fire. >>> and kim kardashian and kris humphries' marriage on the rocks. >>> it is dry. will it stay that way for tonight's trick or treat? ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> rescue crews pull three more bodies. a violent explosion rocked the facility, killing six people and trapping seven others. rescue crews tried to reach them. but damage from the blast caused them to postpone their search. the cause is still under

this traffic report is brought to you by bill's, carpet, hard wood and laminate, too.l them at 1-877-75- bills. back over to you. >>> thank you, kristy. a new muppet will be joining the cast of sesame street. the popular show will introduce a new character. her name is lily. lily is an impoverished puppet. lily will be revealed in a one- on-one, or one-hour sesame street prime time special, called growing hope against hunger. >> that must be lily's mom? >> good question. i don't know. >> her adventure? >> her guardian angel. >> we see her land there -- hand there, too. >>> straight ahead. left behind in shark-infested waters. how the diver kept himself safe and alive until help arrived. >>> begging for mercy. the parents of a missing baby break their silence. >>> and it doesn't get better than this in october. bob is updating the first warning weather forecast. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> a coal mine accident in southwestern china leaves 28 people dead. when a gas leak filled the mine. 13 managed to escape, but three later died. the because of the coal and gas outburst is

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this traffic report is brought to you by bill's carpet, hardwood and laminate.an call them at 1-877-75- bills. back to you. >>> keeping computers and their networks safe is a growing and vital business, as hackers find new ways to outsmart cyber security. mike schuh takes us to a first of its kind gathering to fight back. >> reporter: the weapons in this war aren't conventional. you can't see them, unless you know where to look. the disabling strike may come out of thin air. computer codes, delivered from next door, are a continent away. >> okay, challengers. moment has arrived. >> it's a competition to raise the bar. really smart people, making people and their networks, less vulnerable to attack. >> plain and simple, we're just geeking out. >> many of our students and challengers and competitors are geeks. >> and proud of it. this team works with the government. they have asked us not to say the company's name. and unlike others which are invitation only, this one is open to anyone. >> yes. we didn't want this to be a government-only event. maryland being the

this traffic report is brought to you by bill's carpet, hardwood and laminate, too.ou can call them at 1-877-75- bills. back over to you. >> kristy, thank you. >>> billions of dollars over budget. and already considered dead on arrival. supporters of the next generation space telescope say they aren't giving up hope. alex demetrick reports, for astronomers, the james web telescope is hope for new discovery. >> reporter: a full-sized model is big. so is its potential. >> it will see 100 million times more than the hubble cood. -- could. that is stunning. >> but so is the cost. at nearly $9 billion it is over budget. and targeted for killing. at a ribbon cutting for a new web telescope exhibit at maryland science center, senator barbara mikulski is vowing a fight. >> that will put in $500 million to put the james went telescope into space. >> reporter: or at least keep it alive. three nobel prize winners lent their support. dr. adam reese of hopkins studied exploding stars, leading to the discovery of dark energy. with the web, he could see farther out and further back

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this traffic report is brought to you by bill's carpet, hardwood and laminate, too.s has it all for you. you can call them at 1-877-75- bills. back over to you. >> latinos are the fastest- growing group in the country and baltimore. but many of them are not getting the healthcare they need. in tonight's wjz healthwatch, andrea fujii explains how the city is trying to fix that problem. >> reporter: at baltimore's medical systems healthy living center, thousands of latinos, with no insurance, received care. but there are many others who go without. >> it's a big challenge for us because a lot of the latino community, they don't speak english. >> reporter: to help, the city just released its first-ever latin ony -- latino health report. >> this report can serve as a public health tool, to help efforts in advancing the latino community overall. >> reporter: it found that between 1990 and 2008, the overall city population declined by 13%. but latinos increased by 15%, bringing the latino population to more than 17,000. but heks -- experts agree, it's really probably doubl

i forgot to get laminated this weekend.ason, show everyone the umbrella you brought to work today this is jason, and he came to work today with this umbrella. that belongs to your son? >> yeah, jack's umbrella. >> jimmy: and you looked around the house and that's all you had? >> i didn't have one. >> jimmy: you see what we've been through? almost fully grown man was forced to come to work with a giraffe over his head today. >> thank you. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: there was a new edition of "the x factor" on fox tonight. or maybe it was a season two repeople of "american idol," i honestly can't tell the difference. this show is like no singing competition you've ever seen before, asuchling of course you've never seen a singing competition show before. in tonight's episode, the remaining contestants traveled to los angeles for boot camp, where they were judged on their singing and dancing and then shipped to afghanistan to fight the taliban. i like that they're judging the dancing now, too. i've only ever heard simon call someon

l... ...having to poke out words on a laminated piece of paper one letter at a time. ...c-- "plastic.ing for josh, his mother nancy says he would often give up and retreat into himself. at family gatherings, he was sidelined because no one understood him. at school, he sat passively in class, unable to participate. when josh was feeling bad or really needed something, the family resorted to charades. >> nancy hood: so, you'd be like, you know, "can you spell it? can you show me?" and so, he would... >> stahl: you'd act it out almost? >> nancy hood: he would. he would... he would look around a room and see if he could find something that sounded like it. >> stahl: just to tell you one little thing? >> nancy hood: one thing that he wanted, yeah. >> how are you? >> stahl: but not anymore. >> ipad: i want a drink. >> stahl: for the past year, josh has been using an apple ipad as his voice and he is... well, he's reborn. >> what are we having to eat today, josh? >> ipad: i want bagel bacon, please. >> okay. >> stahl: now, when he goes to the local diner, he can order his breakfast himself.

members of congress carry laminated cards that are broken down into 15-minute intervals. there is time for committees, but not a lot. their fund-raisers in the evening. they do not have a lot of control over the time they spend doing things. that has an impact on what we're talking about. if you look at the percentage of staff resources, how much is spent hiring and retaining staff that knows something about policy as opposed to staff that can man a warroom? i remember a conversation with a man who was regarded until he was let go as one of the most effective. people in congress. -- p.r. people in congress. i said he semi-is mills -- i said he constantly sending e- mails. etc is sending me your own thoughts about these things? >> said yes, i know him well and how he would think about this. i used to work for a member of congress and had to see everything i sent out under his name. it was ridiculous. we kept missing the google waves. [laughter] the google wave is serious. it is the first thing i look out in the morning. what is cresting and how quickly can write something

i had a badge that i printed off my computer and laminated and stable, and i never once had a problem entering the space. it was, the color of my skin was my passport to walk on the base, to even drive on the base. i had a friend who is working initially she was working with some groups and eventually with the united states agency for international the government, haitian-american, dreadlocks, lovely person, very professional. she couldn't get on the base and let she waited outside entrance on the road and hopped in my car. if i drove her through the gate and sort of flash my stabled badge, she never had a problem getting into the meeting. for haitians who did get onto the law base they found himself surrounded by foreigners. they went to cluster meetings that were conducted mainly in english initially which is not a language that they haitian people speak. eventually the official liquid for the broad-based meetings became french. also not the predominant language of 80 which is real. so there would these continual obstacles for haitians to participate in the own recovery. and relief.

members of congress carry laminated cards that are broken down into 15-minute intervals. there is time for committees, but not a lot. their fund-raisers in the evening. they do not have a lot of control over the time they spend doing things. that has an impact on what we're talking about. if you look at the percentage of staff resources, how much is spent hiring and retaining staff that knows something about policy as opposed to staff that can man a warroom? i remember a conversation with a man who was regarded until he was let go as one of the most effective. people in congress. -- p.r. people in congress. i said he semi-is mills -- i said he constantly sending e- mails. etc is sending me your own thoughts about these things? >> said yes, i know him well and how he would think about this. i used to work for a member of congress and had to see everything i sent out under his name. it was ridiculous. we kept missing the google waves. the google wave is serious. it is the first thing i look out in the morning. what is cresting and how quickly can write something to catch th

they carry laminated cards broken out into 15 minute intervals. there is time for committees, but not a lot. there are fund raisers in the evening. they do not have a lot of control over the time they spend doing things. that has had an impact on what we are talking about. another question i would love and answer to it. if you look of the percentage of staff resources, how much is spent hiring and retaining staff that knows something about policy as opposed to staff that can ban the war room, that are good with sums, texting, tweeting, establishing networks? i remember a conversation with a man that was regarded as one of the most effective puerto rico people in congress. -- p.r. people in congress. you send me e-mails congress -- constantly. how can you possibly get back to him that quickly to get his response. he goes, i do not do that. i said, what you mean, you are sending me your own thoughts? he says, yes. i know him very well. i know how he would think. i used to work for a member of congress to head to see everything as sent out under his

included in my budget reforms are a lamination of baseline budgeting that assumes that the previous expendituresre sacrosanct. and indigent nonemergency spending and emergency bills. who would have thought of that? a permanent stop to the bridge to nowhere projects through the elimination of earmarks. [applause] i couple these budgetary reforms within overhaul of the regulatory process. when federal agencies, like the nlrb, are dictating to companies where they can create jobs and where they cannot, they have overstepped their bounds and undermined our free market system. [applause] on my first day in office i will freeze all pending federal regulations, and immediately begin a review of all regulations put in place since january 2008. today, the federal register contains 165,000 pages. the index alone is 1100 pages. and somehow, despite not having any of these new regulations for over the first 219 years of this country's history, america not only survived, it thrived. the federal nanny state's heavy-handed regulations are keeping our economy in the ditch. and it's time to review and to scrap t

they carry laminated card that are broken out in 15 minute intervals. there is time for committees but not a whole lot. there are fund-raisers in the evening. they don't have a lot of control over the time they spend doing things and that has had an impact on what we are talking about. another question i would love an answer to. if you look at the percentage of staff resources how much is that hiring and retaining staff that knows something about policy as opposed to staff that can man a war room that are very good with their thumbs and text in or tweeting or establishing networks. i remember a conversation with a man who was regarded until he was let go as one of the most effective pr people in congress. i have to ask, you send me e-mails constantly giving response to issues of the day. how can you get back to him that quickly to get his response? he said i don't do that. i said what do you mean? you are sending your own thoughts? he says yes. i know him very well and how he thinks about this and i used to work for a member of congress who had to see e

and where would businesses like his turn to if prime is a laminated? >> well first, you are correct. there are thousands of stories out there where prime has helped many, many small businesses with technical assistance. the issue we face is that everybody has to tighten their belts in these difficult budget times. so we have looked for programs where we could execute those activities through other programs we had, or through partners. and it turns out that our microloans intermediaries and our community fill the financial institutions provide terrific technical assistance, and that we felt that our value added was to provide them with the ability to use our 7a program, get access to capital, and that we would use public-private partnerships and public-public partnerships to work together with him to make sure that the technical assistance, through our entire network of small business development center's, micro-lenders, women's business centers, was still robust and growing. >> well thank you. i would like to get that list of partners you think would h

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members of congress carry laminated cards that are broken down into 15-minute intervals. lot. their fund-raisers in the evening. they do not have a lot of control over the time they spend doing things. that has an impact on what we're talking about. if you look at the percentage of staff resources, how much is spent hiring and retaining staff that knows something about policy as opposed to staff that can man a warroom? i remember a conversation with a man who was regarded until he was let go as one of the most effective. people in congress. -- p.r. people in congress. i said he semi-is mills -- i said he constantly sending e- mails. thoughts about these things? >> said yes, i know him well and how he would think about this. i used to work for a member of congress and had to see everything i sent out under his name. it was ridiculous. we kept missing the google waves. the google wave is serious. it is the first thing i look out in the morning. what is cresting and how quickly can write something to catch the google wave? everyone is trying to survive in the current media e