and i recall a case which affected not my own local newspaper, which is the lancashire telegraph, but the adjacent one where for a very minor defamation where i think the payout was 3,000 pounds. and even that really wasn't justified. the newspaper had to pay out thousands and thousands by way of costs. as a citizen as well as a politician, i'm very concerned that we should not lose the regional and local press. i looked at this, whichever -- i think it was a society of editors who represents the regional and local papers. but they had made representations to me, provided a lot of data. there was also strong representations, however, from the nationals as well. and i thought they had a case, quite a strong case. to cut this short, i then followed it through and i decided that we should reduce it from 100% to 10%. i got ministerial colleagues' agreement to that without any difficulty. as it happened in the rush of legislation as we approached the general election, that proposal was then subject to what i can only describe as an ambush in the particular committee that looked at it. and