of more now i'm joined by mohamed windier he's a biologist at lancaster university in england bomb it is good to see you again let me ask you how far would you say is europe from a scenario like the one that we're seeing in china where they are now reporting you know a significant decrease in the number of new cases. well i think that's less really a good question because it's really important to understand what it is for coming so if you take the number of cases part of a part of country and plot it into a diagram you will see the tragic tree is similar in all of the european countries some all are already really native apps for example germany france spain and italy and other or following the same route as he has followed so after mt looking into the trend of these practice it seems like every country especially boring actually exception is also not here in the u.k. that we will be heading at who are the same situation if there are stigma years wouldn't be put in place at the hopi at points i mean that sounds reassuring but the current shutdowns that we're seeing across europe they

and for more on the story we can speak to simon megan he is a political analyst at lancaster university in england hi simon what do you make of this latest meeting between putin and air to one can the ceasefire be effective and can it last. i think it's a good 1st step in terms of true venting tensions between russia and from escalating and that was one of the big concerns in terms of this this moving beyond a devastating humanitarian crisis in syria to something that could escalate and drawing more regional powers i mean a conflict between a major nate i like and russia would be devastating to the local politics so in that sense i think it's a positive step but in terms of what's going on in syria i think it's it's a big leap for the status quo which is that the big bully by senate continuing to reclaim land that he had lost hopes twits who have been after the arab uprisings and he's now step by step regained control over well in syria yemen i want to ask you about a turkish president adeline's position in all of this because he wanted many things out of this he wanted to topple should

i'm led to a lecture at lancaster university specializing said earlier on in conflict management and religious radicalism thanks make the time to be on the program give us your view on it. all right this follows some other news tonight and tensions continuing to rise on the border between greece and turkey has been building up the last few days without buildup of migrants is being described by athens now as a threat to its national security this is all because turkey opened its border with the e.u. on saturday prompting thousands of people to head their greece's deployed extra soldiers in his vying to increase the deterrent as violent clashes break out between the police migrants. on. the greek territory who've been arrested. and in my mind this isn't me go away of entering one country. many migrants have been attempting to reach greece by boat according to reports at least a 1000 of reach the country's eastern gene islands in the past day one child died off the coast of lesbos earlier monday when an inflatable dinghies carrying migrants from the turkish coast capsized next to europe

to discuss all this further we're now joined by viral jess and lecturer at lancaster university dr mohamed when you're now what i think people are often talking about of this point is the idea of herd immunity that idea that if allowing the infection to spread to other in order to build a public immunity is that something that will work. well certainly a herd immunity is one of the things that is really proven to protect the population from any infection. but the major question is how are you going to acquire this ferret immunity if you go from the national course of infection then it is fine but intentional community is no good because it will come up with a lot of false then a lot of false but so many lives before the herd immunity village even especially for such a new virus because we don't really know for how long the immunity would sustain because if we store one thing in order to unity it may take over a year or so and also a year of the immunity that is developed were there were fewer years vanished that could mean that we will be back on to experience you know and all over costs w

for more we welcome mohammed munir he is a viral infection and vaccine expert at lancaster university in the u.k. mr munir we're seeing the virus continue to spread further in many countries give us a little perspective which is largely expected and is the worst yet to come. based on scientific calculations and protection and it is pretty clear that is not each 2 weeks of peak and this is actually we are now seeing communities as a proud between any known history or contacts that is very uncertain and also because the disease has reached to 10 economies in many developing countries where there is a leak in the. health care system so based on all of these clues it is highly likely that overall impact of this. will be more. or there are new insights on how the virus is transmitted and why is it spreading so quickly. well this is why this has. stayed in the 1st one is be productive rate it has a really high reproductive rate which means a whole many people can be infected from one state or so and so with 19 infected person it has a capacity to in fact at least 3 people in the vicinity wh

for more we welcome mohamed moneer he's a viral infection and vaccine expert at lancaster university in the u.k. mr munir we're seeing the virus continue to spread further in many countries give us a little perspective which is largely expected and is the worst yet to come based on all as scientific calculations and prediction and it is pretty clear that the widest has not reached 2 weeks of peak and this is especially important event we are now seeing communities proud as a proud between people that don't any known history or the contacts that is very inside man also 'd because the disease has reached tootin economies in many developing countries where there is a leaky and a weaker health care system so based on all of these clues it is highly likely that overall impact of this white house on public on the economy and the environment will be a lot more in in coming weeks are there new insights on how the virus is transmitted and why is it spreading so quickly well this is why this has a few peculiar collector a stake in the 1st one is being really productive rate it has a very high

happening in germany let's take it on we can speak now to dr mohammed moneer who's of religious at lancaster university joins us on skype from lancaster in the u.k. dr if this is the case that we're seeing rates flattening out why do you think it is because of the restrictions that are being put in place. well the distinction that are being put in play instead is we're just like open up base before like locking down or limiting the number of people in a gathering so i don't think that these are things that are making the defense if it is making the defense than it is only done to their timely actions i think you're going to have been relatively quick in applying the phenomenon like test find isolate it again please everybody individual cases you can. add do so and by database that not only have a limited number of confection but at the same time if we limit it to suppress one it will community because if we look into these the portion of the out of people that is not any significantly different than heatedly so. that at this moment if you take the average i mean average up nearly dead people who will d

brent: how virologist at lancaster university joining us tonight about how to read where this virus iseaded. thank you. >> pleasure. brent: here in germany, the coronavirus death toll has risen to five. german chancellor angela merkel met today to coordinate measures to contain the spread of the virus. in a news conference, she told reporters our government has taken advice from the leading medical experts. she said the government would make a coordinated effort to ensure that medical facilities are properly equipped for the outbreak. she said events with morehan 1000 participants should no longer take place. for more now, i'm joined by our chief political editor. she was supposed to speak three hours earlier tonight and she was late, what does that tell us? >> that there was a big fight behind the scenes, in particular school closings, as germany is a federal state. 16 federal state premieres were sitting around the table, and there were two different camps. one camp one decease with her, broader school closures, almost french-style, parallel to this gathering we heard from emmanuel m

well it speaks to muhammad and we near he's over all or just at lancaster university he joins us on skype from there mohammad i want to start by asking you about what seems to be an inherent contradiction here on the one hand we're being told that wearing mosques won't protect the public but then that we should also leave the small supply for health workers who need them to protect them so how does that work do mosques actually offer any kind of protection and should we be wearing them. well as you hinted that new hampshire and c.d.c. they build out the wires that recommend to have a mosque if someone is not infected about the infection but to be honest at this circle in 19 some have used in there that required some remedial to be considered the 1st thing is. do i just say that if someone is not in fact it they should know to me right and if someone is infected they should mean it but the problem is that 20 percent of the people who are infected by the queer 900 they don't show you can sawing correctly of in fact it would be a lot of shooting and he's symptom so therefore they do need to

15000 less than the rest of the globe but this point in time let's talk to my server logistics lancaster university in britain hey thanks ben live an hour to international making the time for us so it's hard to keep up with this isn't there for you guys as well in a fortnight the epicenter of this pandemic moved from china to europe a number of deaths is now overtaken that of china how worrying should that be for all of us. well i think it is already gave its impression to not only just worried just to be an it because it has acquired in all all the countries but in the europe and almost wanting to stop reporting that it needs i mean even in europe 3 everybody reporting disease and everyone is moving into the same to reject me if you put the number up for a day for a country into that african nation is this mean the situation is a little more than just being worried and we see it now people talking about the health authority in the england is saying that maybe this could go on in the u.k. saying this could go on maybe for up through a year do you buy that as well well that is really the plan of the

help to stop an infected person passing it on you have in many areas of your own interest at lancaster university and he said and he says it's hard to dictate who should wear a mask especially since many of those infected don't show clear symptoms. the only way to n.c.d.c. older and wiser men to earmark it for one is not infected with the infection but to be honest this equality 19 has some cabinet in there that really requires revision to be considered the 1st thing is that i've just said that if someone is not infected they should not be afraid and if someone is infected they should merely but the problem is that the percent of the people infected with the color 900 in show clinical following correctly they are infected but they are not showing any sign symptom so therefore they don't really know whether they should myriad or no and if they don't hear it they are the one who will be suppressing the infection and there is a strong contender in the scientific community that these pilots are predators or really the major culprit in the overall of the common 92 given the situation i think based on

help to stop an infected person passing his own i haven't been near they've really just at lancaster university and he says it's hard to dictate who should wear a mask especially since many of those infected don't show clear symptoms. then you have to n.c.d.c. the old guard wires that are meant we are lost if someone is not in activity in action but to be honest at this echoing 19 some have it in there that really requires some remedial to be considered the 1st thing is that you have to say that if someone is not infected they should not be arraigned and if someone is infected they should mean it but the problem is that 20 percent of the people who are infected with the queer 900 they don't show you need them sawing so reckon they are in fact it but they are not showing any sign symptom so therefore they don't need to know whether they should merely don't know and if they don't merely that they are the one who will be supporting the infection and there is a strong contempt in the scientific community that the silence of predators are really the major break in the whole but all. over $92.00 give

jazeera well as now speak to simon mabon who's a senior lecturer in international studies at lancaster university joins us by skype simon so lots of speculation out there is what's your take on. well you know i think what we have that there was is really way through all of this speculation all of the room as all of the conjecture and figure out what we actually know here and we know that a number of troubling meant saudi prince says with close ties to the royal family as your package has just documented have been arrested now the reasons for the arrest are not clear the justifications for those arrests are not clear but we know that that these arrests have not taken place in a vacuum that there have been a range of other things going on inside the kingdom predominantly the longstanding efforts from the crown prince mohammed bin solomon to seize power and ensure that he has no pull of internal or external dissent as what we saw with the case of shoji and this latest round of purges against his rule and against the legacy that he's trying to create himself for the next 50 years or so as he becomes