lance: thank you. it has been lent to the fact that we are funding these programs that we cannot pay and really the deficit is much higher than that and medicare will be in the red in the next several years and social security not too far beyond that. mrs. lummis: so, will the gentleman yield? mr. lance: certainly. mrs. lummis: are you telling me that social security dollars that americans paid into a social security trust fund have been lent to the federal government to spend on these programs we've been discussing tonight? and i yield back. mr. lance: i thank you for yielding, congresswoman. absolutely 100% accurate. it is not going for the purposes for which it is intended based upon the social security program established in 1935. i do believe that those who established the social security program, franklin roosevelt, distinguished members of congress, including sam rayburn, francis perkins at the secretary of labor, that that generation would be appalleded by how we use -- appall by how we use soc

i am sure that the whole house would endorse the prime minister's tribute to the lance corporal, and endorse his sentiments as well. last week the prime minister told the house that spain was in the g-20 and that it had been in recession for longer than this country -- neither of which, upon checking, turns out to be correct. do we conclude from that that the pain in spain is mainly in his brain? >> [laughter] >> i am very glad that we are starting this week's question time exactly as we ended last week's question time. >> [unintelligible] >> by talking about the economy. >> mr. speaker -- >> [unintelligible] >> order. we want to hear the prime minister's reply, and certainly people listening elsewhere -- order -- wish to do so. we will have no further interruptions. >> there are some people who get into the white house on false pretences, get their photograph taken, and did not have a formal invitation, but the prime minister of spain was invited to the g-20 by the president of america, to be part of the g-20. i have to also tell him that i invited the prime minister of spain, mr. z

before listing my gauge was, it with deep sorrow that we remember from first but i don't oil-rich but lance corporal adam who died in afghanistan on monday. my thoughts and i know the thoughts of the whole house will be with his family and friends. be with his family and friends. every life lost during and during previous years, is a personal tragedy here and we mourn every single loss. we mourn heroes whose acts of bravery recognized a more stable afghanistan needs a safer britain. and the scale of that sacrifice does not diminish but strengthens our resolve. this morning i had meetings with colleagues and others with addition to my duties and house today. >> robert neil? >> thank you, mr. speaker. i'm sure the whole house would endorse his sentiments as well. last week the prime minister told a house that that spain was in the g-20 and has been in recession for longer than this country. neither of which upon checking turns out is to be correct. do we conclude from that that the rain in spain is mainly in his brain? [laughter] >> mr. speaker i'm very glad that we're starting this week's se

can i join the prime minister in paying tribute to lance corporal adam who was killed in afghanistan on monday. the 100 military casualties is sure is a very sad milestone that we should honor his memory. we should help his family. as the prime minister and i have both think of when we speak to our troops in afghanistan, it is not simply a pity there after but support, not just what they're doing but for the mission they are engaged in. and in my view they are every bit the equal of those men who stormed the beaches of normandy or father way across africa and the second world war. we should be proud of what they are doing. the new counterinsurgency strategy and the extra troops are announced by america lastly, do show that we have the last best chance to get this right. does the prime minister agree with me that we simply cannot waste any time in getting every element of the strategy in place, including troops, helicopters, equip, denominate, civilian coordination and of course the pressure on president karzai to cut corruption? >> i am very pleased that he was able to go to afghanis

>> lance armstrong.iger had 56 votes and lance armstrong had 33. >> larry: as a former golfer and analyst with the golf channel, it wasn't husband of the decade. so you got an argument with it? >> no. you're right. absolutely. it's not person of the decade or husband of the decade. it's athlete of the decade. and i do think that you can make a strong argument for lance armstrong or even a stronger one still for roger federer because both of these athletes had respective accomplishments, but when you consider not only what tiger woods did but how he did it, the wide margin of victories and the animated style is almost unprecedented in the history of our game. and its impact was definitely unprecede unprecede unprecedented. >> larry: amy alcott, do you think that character should matter at all when voting for an athlete? >> i think character definitely counts. that's what golf is all about. it's a game of honor, it's a game of character. but this athlete, tiger woods, has taken golf to another level of ath

>> lance armstrong. tiger had 56 degrees and lance arm stong had 33. >> brandon cham bly, it wasn't husband of the wasn't husband o decade, but athlete of the decade. i think you can make a strong argument for lance armstrong or even stronger still for roger fed federer. both had respective accomplishments. when you consider not only what tiger woods did but how he did it the wide margin of victory and the animated style is almost unprecedented in the history of our game and its impact was definitely unprecedented. >> larry: amy alcott, do you think character should matter at all in voting for an athlete? >> larry, i think character definitely counts. i mean, that's what golf is all about. it is a game of honor it is a game of character. but this athlete, tiger woods, has taken golf to another level of atlanta let cism, of style. there's nobody really that can compete with him as far as being a golfer. i would beg to say being a horse racing fan that this has been a great year for the women, too, as far

lance: to address the house for one minute.speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. lance: madam speaker, i rise today to congratulate the summit hilltoppers who captured the new jersey group ii, north ii state sectional football title on december 3 at giants stadium. coached by john, the hilltoppers won a 28-19 victory over the orange tornados. on offense, the hilltoppers were led by the quarterback and running back. for the game, the running back ran for 119 yards while completing six pass attempts for 134 yards. reyes finished with 167 yards on the ground and two touchdowns on 16 carrieses. the summit defense was led by michael steinberg, mike watts, ryan o'mali, danny feeney, held the orange to just 19 points. i ask all of my colleagues to join me in congratulating the coach and the entire summit hilltoppers football team for their victory over are orange to win the state sectional title. thank you, madam speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for w

was 150 billion-dollar tax on many middle-class workers using so-called cadillac health-insurance lance. page 1997 will cost families and individuals an additional 5 billion by prohibiting the use of cb set aside for health care expenses. page 2010, make the cost of life-saving medicine more expensive by taxi pharmaceutical research $22 billion. the list goes on and on and including page 2040 increase the medicare payroll taxes by $53.8. that's one reason why maybe it's going to be difficult for them to win passage of this after 72 hours of examining this 2000 page bill. >> obviously, in addition to its other problems it is a job killer. with unemployment at 10%, a big tax increase on a variety of different americans as senator mccain has pointed out. in addition to all its other problems come a subset of problems or process problems if the job killer in the middle of a difficult recession. >> i.t. to my colleagues that the lack of transparency, one of the things my friend president obama said he wanted to have was transparency. there's been no transparency in this process. and that's w

the former book editor of the sun sentinel and free-lance writer, chaunce may. [applause] >> now you are going to hear some more about the greatness that is tracy kidder. we live in something of a nonfiction aged nowadays. reality dominates television. documentary said never been more popular and movies and the memoir has replaced the novel as the dominant form of creative fiction. again despite the rich outpouring of fine non-fiction writing in recent years the case could be made that tracy kidder may be our very best nonfiction writer. he is in fact the very definition of the literary journals, blending the records recording of a reporter with a sympathetic imagination of the novelist and the stylistics skill of a master craftsman. tracy kidder has produced work in the highest order since his early years reporting on the vietnam war for the "atlantic monthly." his first book, the soul of the new machine, thoughtful humanizing look at the emerging commuter evolution come akeem maturate reviews and achieve the rest of distinctions that won both the pulitzer priz

clocks while embedded in afghanistan, free-lance video journalist observing how the use unmanned aerialvehicles, or drums. >> the two drawn units in afghanistan, one handles the north and one handles the south. at the south is the busier of the two. these numbers are classified, but i would guess 100 drones. the predators look like a model airplanes about the size of a small compact car. there reapers look the same that are about twice as big. they look like fighter jets more than model airplanes. you can hang bonds on these. they carried different sensors like cameras, radars, etc. they can stay in the air and a long time. it depends on what you are carrying but it is not impossible for one of these to orbit for one full day just spoke it -- soaking up data and taking pictures of terrain. you can think of them as manned aircraft except that the man in the aircraft is on the ground talking to the ground troops. they actually use a track program that looks like an instant messenger to do a lot of the communications with those receiving the reports. they are fairly precise as far as these

untries have made that decision that they wouldant to kill the kyoto protocol inrder to change the lance of obligations between develong countries and developed countries and thats absolutely unacceptable. >> suarez: the prost had the supporof china, the world's largest emitter ofreenhouse gas. the developing nations a oking to extend kyoto and wo out a new deal f poorer countries. developed countries wanto fold the 1997 agreement io a new, overarching framework toight global warming. the new compact would clude the u.s. and ina, which never ratified kyo. antonihill is the senior climate changedviser to oxfam, thinternational aid group. well, in this tit for tat, the's accusations that developi countries, the orest countries, the ones th most need urgentction on climate ange are blocking the talks. and i ink in respect of that, we need to be clear th they're not putting blockages on t tracks in front the train. what they're doing is lling the emergency cord tstop the train bere it runs off the cliff at the end of this wk. >> suarez: by the d of this week iwhen leaders from 110 nations wi

. >> free-lance journalist david axe was embedded with u.s. troops in afghanistan. in this interview, we talked about his experience with the u.s. army and air force. this is his second trip to afghanistan. >> my first trip was near kandahar about to be zero years ago. i wanted to go back to the south and see if i could detect progress or see if things had gotten worse, but also to explore new areas of afghanistan i had not visited before. in 2007, i spent most of my time in kabul. this time i headed out towards the agricultural districts, south of kabul to see a different facet of war. >> are there commercial flights that go into afghanistan? >> you can fly commercially into kabul or, less frequently, in to kandahar. so that is not as efficient as the u.s. air transportation system, but is it -- it is a typical commercial flight. >> how concerned are you -- the deadliest month was october for servicemen? how concerned are you for your personal safety and what measures to take to protect yourself? >> if you are embedded with u.s. forces you are required to wear the

. >> free-lance journalist david axe was recently embedded with u.s. troops in afghanistan. in this 40 minute interview, we'll talk with them about his experience in the u.s. army and air force. this was his second trip to afghanistan. >> my first trip was for -- -- was to the province in the south. on this trip i wanted to go back to the south and see if i could detect progress or see if things had gotten worse, but also could use some areas in afghanistan i had not visited before. in 2007 i spent my time in kabul. this time i headed out to one of the agricultural district south kabul to see a different facet of the war effort. >> heidi make the arrangements to get there? >> you can buy commercially into kabul -- you can fly commercially into kabul. >> october was the deadliest month for u.s. servicemen and. how concerned are you for your own personal safety and what measures do you take to protect yourself? >> if you are in bed, if you are required to wear much of the same protective gear that the u.s. troops duke, a helmet and a best with armor plates and it. and you writ

lance: thank you, madam speaker, and thank you, mr. sessions. i rise today in opposition to this restrictive rule and the underlying legislation. this bill will have severe negative consequences on our financial sector and our economy as a whole. specifically, i'm strongly opposed to title 1 which would create a permanent bailout fund at the fdic, paid for in part by companies that will never see any real benefit. furthermore, while every member of this body supports increased consumer protection, title 4 of the bill related to that important issue could do more harm than good by restricting choice and further fightening consumer credit markets. the language of this title is far too broad and ill defined. its uncertainty will only hurt consumers while financial companies retreat from the market to avoid running afoul of a new federal bureaucracy. i'm also concerned with the title's insistence on completely separating consumer protection regulation from prudential, safety and soundness regulation. in my judgment, to accomplish either regulators s

i speak -- i spent a lot of time specifically on a guy named jeff key, a lance corporal from the marine corps reserve who was in a rock during the invasion during which time based on what he saw and what he was asked to do he turned vehemently against the occupation. and he served his tour and came back home and was based at camp pendleton, the budget to marine base in the united states over just north of san diego. he was there on march 301, 2004, a day that for blackwater mercenaries were killed and felicia, the terrible things done to their bodies. you have all probably seen when it happened, the photos and video of that. a big, strapping marine. six-foot six, blond hair, blue eyes, a poster boy for the marine corps. he was asked on to the show on cnn to discuss soldier morale in the wake of the killings of these four blackwater mercenaries in flew to ajuh. so he agreed to go on to the show. paula asked, i know i winced when i saw these pictures. when you saw these images not only being brutally beaten and murdered, but dragged down the street what went through your mind? a little bi

lance, announced by press release that his district received $13 million from the rye covery act for local flood control projects. this is outstanding news, he said. and even sent a letter to president obama asking for speedy release of those recovery funds. another of our colleagues from michigan on that side of the aisle, issued a press release saying he was pleased to announce that his international airport would receive $12.7 million from funds received from the recovery act. another of our colleagues on the minority side from illinois said -- i yield myself another minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. obey: said there is no question these grants will be of assistance in creating jobs. i can go on and on and on. citing member after member who denounce the bill on the house floor and then went home to their districts and issued grandiose press releases expressing their support for the results of the recovery package. i have a little difficulty following that ping-pong ball when it's bouncing on both sides of the table. i have a little difficulty follow

lance. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from virginia. mr. boucher: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. boucher: the bill before the house is the local community radio act of 2009. it was introduced by representatives doyle and terry and will provide additional opportunities to create new low-power f.m. radio stations by allowing their operation on third adjacent channels to the full powered radio stations. low-power stations, which are community based nonprofits that operate at 100 watts or less of power and have a broadcast reach typically of only a few miles play a unique role in our media. they are far more likely than their full-powered counterparts to be owned by women or minorities, and they're an important forum for local clergy, for institutions and for a wide array of community leaders to have a say on important local issues. . i commend radio broadcasters, significant stakeh

i don't get so far down in the weeds that i am doing lance corporal work here.but it is a big deal when you start changing how a marine and pursue squad fights. and we're going to treat it as a big deal. -- a marine infantry squad fights. and we're going to treated as a big deal. we also have to be able to justify to the congress and to you folks that we're moving away from a tried and true weapon system that the army is going to continue with, and yet we are going another way. there's another additional burden of proof that has to be met simply because of the expense to the taxpayer. there's a number of things out there that we've got to accomplish. >> the see the marine corps going -- if the jltv are too heavy, if there concerns about them, to go to an interim vehicle in the near term car -- in the near term? >> we could. our concern is not just with the jltv. our concern is that right now, and arguably so -- since 2003, we have been serving as a second land army, okay? we believe in large doses of salt-sea air, okay? and there's not much of that in anbar or i

. >> now a free-lance journalist talks about being held in a prison following his reporting of the disputediranian election. it is about 90 minutes. . . learning and public policy through its sponsored research and some 800 meetings a year that we host of which this is one. today we're particularly pleased to be partnering with the pulitzer center. a relatively new organization that's already made a -- quite a mark on the field as the news industry goes through the transformation that it's going through. the pulitzer center is providing a really unique product and we are going to hear more about that today and have an example of it. i would because i just heard a cell phone, i ask you all to please turn your cell phones and other such guyses off. today, we are being broadcast live. with that let me turn the floor over to john sawyer which is the founding director of the pulitzer center. john created this organization, founded it and for many years he was the bureau chief of the st. louis post dispatch and from his washington base here he traveled the world some 60 countries, i guess, doing

lance, announced by press release that his district received $13 million from the rye covery act forocal flood control projects. this is outstanding news, he said. and even sent a letter to president obama asking for speedy release of those recovery funds. another of our colleagues from michigan on that side of the aisle, issued a press release saying he was pleased to announce that his international airport would receive $12.7 million from funds received from the recovery act. another of our colleagues on the minority side from illinois said -- i yield myself another minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. obey: said there is no question these grants will be of assistance in creating jobs. i can go on and on and on. citing member after member who denounce the bill on the house floor and then went home to their districts and issued grandiose press releases expressing their support for the results of the recovery package. i have a little difficulty following that ping-pong ball when it's bouncing on both sides of the table. i have a little difficulty followin

operating lance in mexico hiring mexicans and importing into this country.i'll give you one example. a man by the name is steve's karami, 2000 acres, 500 jobs, 50 million operation in california to guadalajara. today he exports 2 million pounds of lettuce a week and he has spent thousands of dollars to start up his new farms and train workers. that's what's happening. western growers tells me back and tells everybody i assume that at least 85,000 acres of farmland from california and arizona are now in mexico and at least 22,000 added jobs are now in mexico. and we see it in apples. we see it in dairy, we see it in pairs, we see it in crops. and if you add to that some of the other economic stressors for the first time in my lifetime i have seen farmers in bread lines in the sinful valley. and you add to this your i-9 audit which sent a chilling effect over the rest of agriculture,. respectfully, i do not agree with the ranking member. i think we are destroying our culture because like it or not agriculture depends on a non-domestic workforce to the greatest

operating lance in mexico hiring mexicans and importing into this country.'ll give you one example. a man by the name is steve's karami, 2000 acres, 500 jobs, 50 million operation in california to guadalajara. today he exports 2 million pounds of lettuce a week and he has spent thousands of dollars to start up his new farms and train workers. that's what's happening. western growers tells me back and tells everybody i assume that at least 85,000 acres of farmland from california and arizona are now in mexico and at least 22,000 added jobs are now in mexico. and we see it in apples. we see it in dairy, we see it in pairs, we see it in crops. and if you add to that some of the other economic stressors for the first time in my lifetime i have seen farmers in bread lines in the sinful valley. and you add to this your i-9 audit which sent a chilling effect over the rest of agriculture,. respectfully, i do not agree with the ranking member. i think we are destroying our culture because like it or not agriculture depends on a non-domestic workforce to the greatest

that happens there was a close court nation planning where aid development officers with other severe lance at that level worked with military to figure out what needed to happen. we advised on the use of serp so we would have a development impact that we thought was appropriate and then our folks were going in within 24 to 48 hours behind the military. so it's a very close relationship that we are working on building, continuing to build at the provincial but even down to the district level. and so we are, you know, when an idea comes up there something that we need to do to finance it is that joint interagency team of the military, usaid, state department, usda to figure out which is the best mechanism to get the job done. >> i have a sneaking suspicion and maybe i'm being cynical that it's easier to get money in the budget for serp than it is for aid. and i've watched serp grow in my suspicion is that folks around here are are much more willing to go wherever they are asked to go to support the military and a contingency, whereas when you start talking about aid all of a sudden it doesn'

lance, announced by press release that his district received $13 million from the recovery act for locald control projects. this is outstanding news, he says. and he even sent a letter to president obama asking for speedy release of those recovery funds. recovery funds. another of our colleagues from michigan on that side of the aisle, issued a press release saying he was pleased to announce that his international airport would receive $12.7 million from funds received from the recovery act. another of our colleagues on the minority side from illinois said -- i yield myself another minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. obey: said there is no question these grants will be of assistance in creating jobs. i can go on and on and on. citing member after member who denounce the bill on the house floor and then went home to their districts and issued grandiose press releases expressing their support for the results of the recovery package. i have a little difficulty following that ping-pong ball when it's bouncing on both sides of the table. i have a little difficult

authority to prevent housing speculation and unsound lending practices often miss jumped the market touch lance by appearing to act inconsistently in and add hock manner. these shortcomings stand in stark short comes of theÑi stat objectives given in this white tea. his nomination before the hearing in 2005. during that hearing. doctor ben bernanke said, monetary policy is most effective when it is as it is as coherent consistent and predictable as possible. i do not believe that monetary policy during the recent crisis in which in some instances was effective fiscal policy was coherent, consistent or predictable. in 2005 doctor ben bernanke said that a monetary policy becoming frequently transparent to the public and a trend that i strongly support. as i mentioned earlier, i do not believe theres with any transparency in some of the actions taking during crisis by the fed in 2005 he said the fed works closely with other regulators to ensure the safety and soundness of the u.s. banks system and has played a constructive role in managing and mitt gateing the financial crisis. if i'm confirmed he

can i join in playing tribute to the lance corporal.t the prime minister and i have both seen, when you speak to the troops in afghanistan, it is not just pity, but support they are doing and the mission they are engaged in. in my bit we they are every bit of the men that stormed the beaches of normandy. we should be proud of what we are doing. the new strategy and the extra troops do show that we 15 the last best chance to get this right. does the prime minister agree with me that we cannot waste any time of getting every element of the strategy in place including troops, helicopter, aide, civilian aide, and the pressure on president karzai to cut corruption. >> i'm pleased that he was able to go to afghanistan. i know there are many members who have visited. i play tribute to them for visiting our troops. i pay greater tribute to the troops for the great work that they do. he is absolutely right we must move quickly. additional troops will be going to afghanistan in the next few days. we have called the conference for january 28 in lo

senator burr lance lincoln said more information is needed and senator ben nelson said i just want to know what the costs are. so do the rest of us, so did the rest of us. so here we have a proposal after nearly a year that is being assessed by the congressional budget office and here we are with no knowledge of what that bill is about with the exception of some bare essentials that had been leaked. what is this got to do with change? what is this got to do it by partisanship? what is his guts to do with anything? rankly we have the editorial in "the washington post" this morning that calls that "medicare's kasich." and isd man is consent that this editorial from "the washington post" be made part of the record. >> without objection. >> the emerging proposal could have costly and detention, costly unintended consequences but we don't know what it is. what we no, never before in this entire gear i would ask my colleagues have we seen a proposal that would increase eligibility, the changing eligibility for medicare down to age 55. never before. so, the majority leader came to the floor

this amendment is endorsed by the lance armstrong foundation, american academy of pediatrics, susan komen for the cure advocacy alliance, american cancer society, alzheimer's foundation, dozens of other national organizations. along with senator hutchison, this is a bipartisan amendment sponsored by senators franken, whitehouse, and specter. please join us in voting for this. i yield the floor. mr. kaufman: mr. president, i ask consent to speak in morning business for up to 15 minutes. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. kaufman: my colleagues have heard me speak in recent weeks about the troubling trends in our financial markets. the growing use of dark pools and high-frequency trading, increasing market fragmentation and looming potential regulatory gaps in the securities and exchange commission. today i want to talk about an economic threat that encompasses these developments and why i think they are negatively affecting the long-term health of our economy. after suffering through the most severe recession in decades, we are now in the midst of the most fragile of roeufrs. mr

clocks while embedded in afghanistan, free-lance video journalist observing how the use unmanned aerialvehicles, or drums. >> the two drawn units in afghanistan, one handles the north and one handles the south. at the south is the busier of the two. these numbers are classified, but i would guess 100 drones. the predators look like a model airplanes about the size of a small compact car. there reapers look the same that are about twice as big. they look like fighter jets more than model airplanes. you can hang bonds on these. they carried different sensors like cameras, radars, etc. they can stay in the air and a long time. it depends on what you are carrying but it is not impossible for one of these to orbit for one full day just spoke it -- soaking up data and taking pictures of terrain. you can think of them as manned aircraft except that the man in the aircraft is on the ground talking to the ground troops. they actually use a track program that looks like an instant messenger to do a lot of the communications with those receiving the reports. they are fairly precise as far as these

air force in southern afghanistan, free-lance video journalist lanceaxe -- david axe learned about dronesld guess there are 100 creditor and reaper drones. they look like giant model airplanes, about the size of a small compact car. there reaper's look about the same, but they are about twice as big and look more like fighter jets and model airplanes. you can hang bombs on these things and their noses carry a bunch of different sensors, carol -- cameras, radar, and things like that. they can stay in the air a long time. it is not impossible for one of these to orbit for a whole day, soaking up vast amounts of imagery and data, peering down and taking radar snapshots of terrain. he could think of them as manned aircraft, except the man in the aircraft is actually sitting on the ground. it is still talking to the ground troops and the air controllers. they actually use a chat program like instant messenger to do a lot of the communication with the guy's receiving the support from the drones. there are fairly precise. they did not carry large weapons. it is a far cry from a b-1 bomber droppi

thank >> a free-lance journalist was in bed with the u.s.my in afghanistan in october and november. he followed u.s. troops as they trained the afghan national army and national police. this was in a mostly agricultural region south of kabul. we will see how the u.s. army worked with afghan forces on security checkpoint. with these kinds of check points, you can lock a place down. the taliban can move around and smuggling cannot happen. you can walk down the opium trade and solve a lot of problems by keeping an eye on the traffic. checkpoints can be terribly boring. forces tend to delegate a lot of check points to afghan forces. that's something they can handle. it's a relatively rudimentary task. so they set of checkpoints 24 hours a day and the americans will go out periodically and check on them. how are things going? have you see it -- heavy seen anything? do you need some stuff to build up a checkpoint? usually when americans go out there, they will gather up afghans into a foot patrol. since you are there, you may as well get practice

probably will control all the real estate in afghanistan by time those 30,000 troops ariff we don't have lance to go -- arrive we don't have a license to go into pakistan. they still have a sanctuary in the neighboring state of pakistan. pakistan with a population, i believe that number would be 173 million, indicates a high population in pakistan. more resources in pakistan. a lot of big mountains there. the pakistanis themselves are like people everywhere, they're going to look out for their own interests. well, their own interests aren't necessarily to put all their resources in defeating the taliban and rooting out what's left of al qaeda in the mountains in pakistan. their fathers are in protecting the pakistani people. there aren't a lot of them up in the mountains where we think their military needs to go. and in protecting the pakistani government and not overreaching so that the pakistani government doesn't get overthrown by the taliban. that's the struggle that's going on there. so they will take on the taliban that threaten the pakistanis, but they don't want to go out and pick a ne

they're going to be occupied themselves i suspect that i don't want to get so far down that i'm doing lance corporal work here. but it is a big deal. when you start changing how marine infantry squad fights. and we're going to treat it as a big deal and i'm going to have to be convinced that we are making the right move before we start to purchase another system and change that whole dynamic. by the way, we also have to be able to justify to you folks arguably that we are moving away to a tried-and-true weapons system that the army is going to contiguous, and yet we are going to go another way. there's another additional burden of proof here, i think, that has to be met simply because of the expands to the taxpayer. so there's a number of things out there that we've got to accomplish. >> are those being developed now are or their about them, do you see them going to an interim vehicle and a near-term? >> we could. our concern is not just what the gop be. our concern is that right now and arguments and 2003, really, we have been serving as a second land army we believe in large doses of a sa