as i said, the one who killed lance corporal dykhuis is in the military detention facility. i was by general carrinii, who i believe you've met, assured that justice will be done in that regard. i'm confident that he will be true to his word, sir. >> and no doubt about that. i know with senator udall, i was able to go and actually observe and meet the leadership on the afghan local police program. and i, too, am a huge supporter. i'm also deeply concerned that by getting that program up to 30,000, yet we're doing a dramatic drawdown, how does that all work out? getting that program up and running is without a doubt the clearest deterrent for the taliban to re-establish ties in that region and potentially re-establish camps and potentially export terrorism around the region and eventually potentially, you know, moving on other parts of that -- other countries within that region. how do you think that's going to shake out? >> i think it's going to continue to be an important mechanism for holding the ground in afghanistan. >> quite a bit less cost and less manpower. >> much le