landau. >> simon: and landau didn't just steal from historical libraries. had taken his campaign of kindness all the way to the white house, befriending president clinton's former secretary, betty currie, who made the mistake of inviting landau to her house. landau was pretty good at making friends with people who could help him, wasn't he? he spent nights at her place. >> brachfeld: bad, bad offer to invite him into your house. >> simon: he robbed her of more than 250 items, including copies of presidential speeches from her personal collection. naturally, we wanted to ask barry landau about all of this, so last summer, we tried to talk to him in new york city. bob simon, "60 minutes." talk to us a minute. >> barry landau: no, no, no, no, no. >> simon: just answer some questions. it's... you're being accused of a lot of things and we want to hear your side of it. they say... the prosecution says you're a con man, a thief. what do you say to that? don't you have anything to say at this point in your own defense? landau may have been the maestro of his craft

susan landau, welcome to democracy now! this may surprise many people, this point that metadata, just the fact of a phone call, if you called, perhaps where you made the call, can be more revealing than a transcript of the conversation itself. >> that is right. that is because the metadata of a phone call tells what you do as opposed to what you say. for example, if you call from the hospital when you're getting a mammogram and later in the day your doctor calls you and then you call the surgeon and when you're at the surgeon's office you call your family, it is pretty clear looking at that pattern of calls there has been some bad news. inthere is a tight vote congress and some is wavering on the edge, you discover they're talking to the opposition, you know which way they're above is going. one of my favorite examples is when some sun microsystems was purchased by oracle, there were a number of calls made the week before. the sierra's talk to each other and probably they both talk to their chief counsels and maybe they tal

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