. >>> the week before christmas, 23-year-old demesha hunt, and renisha landers did not come home, hergan to worry a lot. >> she was loved by her family and friends. she was very sensitive. she loved her family and loved her mother. >> demesha and renisha were like two sides of the same coin. >> they were on the same page. they were just alike, they liked being with each other. >> they did not consider each other cousins, they considered each other sisters. >> as the new year approached, their lives were looking up. demesha had a baby girl, and renisha's job let her save up enough money for a crystler 300. >> she was mentioning 2012, and she said this is going to be a good year for us. >> december 17th, 2011 was a saturday night. the young women decided to go out on the town with some girlfriends. >> i watched her get ready, she did her hair, i helped her find a outfit. >> i guess we said, "i'll see you later," and that was the last time i saw her. >> the following morning, denise and chaquita woke up with bad feelings in their stomachs. >> the next morning when i did not hear from her

>> i feel landers stand more how much we're at an impasse getting stuff done. i tried to take ideas that many democrats have put forward but i cannot get democrats to talk to me. i had appointments with several different democratic senators to work on as a security reform. it can be saved 75 years are in perpetuity if we gradually raise the age and mean test the benefits but i cannot get democrats to discuss the possibility. >> host: what about your own party? >> half and half. i meekly critical of my party that all 47 u.s. senators are for a balanced budget amendment. but when we cut $7 million from sugar subsidies we have about 10 republicans that have sugar. if we compare that to the annual deficit is over $1 trillion. you want to cut 7 million added time? that is 140,000 we cannot do it once. that discourages me. we cannot cut pennies left alone billions. >> host: you have a new book? >> government police. weird not talking about murder or rape or stealing but people who put the dirt on their own property some of these came out of the first george bush reth

. >> it's the home of the high landers and also a controversial organization. the male varsity football team set up what they call a fantasy shut league. the school has been investigating the league. the school sent a letter home saying >>> also in that letter students say they felt pressured to participate and lacked confidence to overtly stop it and say in some cases alcohol was involved. a letter from the principal said there will be an assembly to address these issues. however, since these matters happened off school grounds no action will be taken. the principal went on to say the letter speaks for itself. it is a matter of teams and parents working together. >>> the news keeps coming tonight. here's bryante

detroit pitcher ace justin very lander took a beating in game one as the man of the night, pablo sandoval had the game of a lifetime tying a world series home run record. >> now 2-2. and sandoval hits it into center. back at the wall. good-bye. wide ball into left. back at the wall. he's homered again. wasn't activated until the third week of august. into center. at the wall. another. pablo sandoval with a three-homer game in world series game number one. >> and that was it. sandoval's three homers in a world series game tied the record held by babe ruth, reggie jackson and albert pujols. the final score 8-3. game two with madison balm gardner and doug fister starting for the tigers. >>> even though a full season is not a reality for locked out nhl players, the new york islanders will move to the brand new bark lay's center in 2015. the nfl has embraced pink all throughout october for breast cancer awareness month. during sunday night's jets dolphins games referees will be throwing pink penalty flags instead of yellow. this was an idea dreamed up by an 11-year-old boy from new jersey. goo

. >> oakland faces justin vern lander in game one. -- justin verlander in game one. giants start matt cain saturday. madison bumgarner starts game two. reds were 4-3 against san francisco this season. the red sox fired bobby valentine. he managed to alienate the players and the fans. high school football game of the week is antioch versus deer valley. nhl, canceled their first two weeks of the season, that is five games in the shark's skeg. >> thank you. >>> -- schedule. >> thank you. >>> what set off the firestorm of tweets and why analysts are calling it a game changer. >> thank you for trusting ktvu channel 2 news. [ male announcer ] the career landscape of america is changing. new jobs are here, and by 2025, we could have millions more that demand qualified college graduates. many in the bay area. at devry university, our market-responsive bachelor's and master's degree programs can give you what you need to succeed in today's careers and the ones on the horizon. get the know how you need for a new tomorrow

game five tonight at 6:37 parker faces ver lander. the winner advances to the american league championship series. the giants will try to complete a comeback of their own. the big story lincecum's revival. with bats coming alive to san francisco avoided elimination 8-3 victory in cincinnati over the reds. the winner of this morning's game five goes to the championship series sandoval there, splash hit. [ unintelligible ] terry mcsweeney will have more. >>> right now following developing news from yemen, a gunman has assassinated chief of security at the u.s. embassy. he was shot in the head while on his way to work. a gunman on a motorcycle opened fire and fled. attack comes as yemen's u.s.-backed government is waging an offensive against al-qaeda in the country. >> tonight republicans try to retain momentum while democrats try to get things back on track as vice presidential candidates debate. katie marzullo is live with a preview. >> reporter: right now the running mates are in their final hours of prep. democrat biden and republica

winning game 4 when a trip to game 5 but we are facing the best pitcher in all of baseball just denver lander. he is--justin verlander he has lost in oakland and we hope he loses again tonight. >> let's hope the momentum is solidly behind the a's as we go in game 5 this evening. >> a potential break and a 24 year-old case of the missing hayward girl. police are testing a bone fragment that is linked to the speed freak killers. mchale disappeared after a man snatcher from a hayward store in 1988. the victim's mother said they called her and told her they were testing their remains and it is likely to be her daughter. hayward police are expected to discuss the case later today. new reports say that there remains linked to the killers were not properly identified. they said that they were mixed and because of the large equipment that was used to dig. the men that were convicted of four murders were suspected of killing a dozen women during the 1980's and 90's were high on methamphetamines. the city has apologized for a botched job. taking a loss left at this station and casino we wondered if the

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them really starting to see much the realms of science fiction i mean they managed to recently land lander on mars but that's really the very limits at the moment of our abilities is this really a serious proposition how on earth would you go about doing something so let me be the first to admit there is a long list of technical challenges and it's going to be very hard this is something that we don't know all the answers yet but we do know is that there is no laws of physics that prevented that these are pieces of rock out there that for example something the size of the international space station could be worth two hundred billion dollars and so where there's a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow there will be a way people thirty years ago thought drilling a hole down into the bottom of the ocean and pulling fossil fuels under the north sea was in. possible and now that's what we do as a matter of daily practice well we will have to see whether that does indeed transpire big promises behind but certainly big ambitions and perhaps big achievements as well whether there will be a futur

against the game's best pitcher ever lander on wednesday (male announcer) here's stanley roberts whoound some people behaving bady justin verlander jack, you said you wanted a whole new breakfast item. i give you... flap jacks. hmm! yeah...um...the thing is, i don't know if i'm comfortable with people eating my face. how 'bout a loaded breakfast sandwich with country-grilled sausage, bacon, ham, two fried eggs, and melting cheese on toasted sourdough. don't do it. don't eat my face... do not eat my... you ate his face?! >> it is official as you see the celebration on the wet streets of san francisco. marcos good road is the championship mvp >> we have a wet one and a lot of celebrations. we can't remember one that was this wet. what a great feeling most of these folks have. they are fired up about their giants. are you staying dry over here? >> we are on to the tigers! >> we are ready for some tigers (cheers & applause) it is all energy out here (...) rain or not you have to stay till the end! >> do you think they can get by justin verlander air? that guy is pretty good. >> who is th

just tin ger lander will hit for the tirings. it begins at 8:00 p.m.e and done firing manager ozzie gean after one season. the team finished last in the nl east. his comments phrasing fidel cast grow. >> the time now 40 minutes after the hour. caught on camera a man narrowly escapes death seconds after his car bursts into flames. >> with 13 days to go the new poll numbers. where it stands and why it may come down to one simple state. >> 43 after the hour. here are quick headlines. the number of meningitis cases topping 300 this morning. 23 people have died investigators say they found unclean conditions at the pharmacy where the shots behind the outbreak were mixed. and dramatic moments caught on surveillance video five police officers pulling them to safety just before his overturned suv burst into flames. the man reportedly lost control of the suv in the parking lot of a hospital. he had severe burns but is expected to make a full recovery. heather? >> 13 days to go the presidential candidates heading to the battle ground to the final stretch. where

oakland parker will likely get the start against justin bury lander. one done for bobbie valentine.pe and 93 was its worth in 50. >> shout out of the jets the 49ers big favorite to take over ratted by the patriots 52-28. buffalo fell apart the second half allowing 6 straight touch down drives. forty-niner safety played 5 seasons with the bills. he says that team problems are often management related. >> i say that because a lot of guys out there, go out and pour their heart night and you never win. never go out there and feel like newer control of football gales. if comes om coaching. fom uthe. i think that coming the right players. i unthat still a gamble can't allow them to do this. >> on thursday night football. arizona at st. louis on ram first possession. bradford up for t danny who makes a great one hand grab. he would later leave with soldier injury. scramble before hitting his ow own. first last of the season frame. 3 straight losses cal will pwouvrj back ucla. weekly news conference the coach says bigew ll dinitely ore invoed wh theawe soov yards to cay bigew di't touch the

sandoval homered three times off ver lander he joins babe ruth, reggie jackson and pujols.zito gave up one run to get his first career world series win. lincecum came out of the bullpen striking out five tigers. giants beat tigers 8-3. >> when he hit his third we were going nuts in there. we didn't know at that point if it had been done we are just like oh my gosh. >> it means a lot -- the guy from coop perstown take it. >> bumgarner in game two this evening at at&t park. >>> police warning fans not to buy tickets from scalpers today some are sorry they did one fan handed over $400 for two tickets that turned out to be worthless. >> be careful when you come in to go to the game and spend a lot of money out-of-pocket. >> some fans who didn't have a ticket started waiting in line yesterday morning to get a free glimpse of the game through the chain link fence. many fans driving to the came are getting sticker shock before they get to the park. some parking lots have doubled or tripled prices. $90, some garages are now charging between $90 and $140 to park there. here's the li

ver lander struck out the side in the 6th. verlander struck out 11 athletics in 7 innings. a's came close to evening it up in 8th. that was the last threat for the a's and tigers take game 1, 3-1. tomorrow, an early start, 9:00 a.m. west coast time that. means an earl start for fred inglis. >> reporter: if you look there is no justin verlander on that staff and today verlander was throwing into the high 90s, deep into the 7th inning after 121 pitches. he also kept the a's aggressive hitters off-balance with off-speed stuff. he struck out five straight when the a's batters faced him for the third time in the game. 11 strike-outs and one run. justin verlander proving once again pitching dictates momentum. >> i felt like we went out there and battled him, but with that guy, sometimes you just have to tip your hat and obviously he gets tipped to a lot. the he can pitch and he did that. he went out and he gave up -- he mad a mistake first batter of the game and he really didn't make anymore. he pitched. you can't start trying to think about him because he will throw anything at

probably close to 100 miles per hour and rear lander from? >> odu, baby. >> another fast ball and there it goes again. a two-rub shot and this were going crazy for the kung fu panda. only three gays in the history of major league baseball -- no way. >> the panned as not going to do it again! yes, he is. -- the panned as not going to do it again. >> -- the panda is not going to do it again. giants win game one 8-#. who had san francisco in the world series. >> i believe that would be one wisdom martin. >> only one game. the giants win game one 8-1. >> chris cooley is back at practice. he is back yesterday and mike shanahan said he kind of like the way 47 looks. hens he looks like he is still in football shape. we'll find out. they are going up to pittsburgh on sunday. we are hoping london fletcher won't be out but chris cooley could be in. >> i think it was nice to sit back and look around and watch football games and watch the league and i looked at it and thought i can do this. i know i'm as good as a lot of these players. it is a good oppor

jarrod parker is expected to start against justiner have lander.have the second lowest payroll in baseball and playing against the team with the fifth highest. of the 10 clubs in the play- offs five are in the bottom half of the total league payroll. general manager billy beane doesn't like hearing that his team is simply scrappy. >> once again, do they have great character, yeah. but they also got talent, too. i think too many times this year people want to point to intangibles and not recognize that there are some good baseball players there. and there's no such thing as being lucky for 162 games. so i like to think they are a talented group of players. >> reporter: as a general manager, has this been among the most stressful seasons that you have had? >> one of the least stressful. that's what's good about being in your 15th year. when you have young kids, it keeps you in perspective. >> there are rich teams and there are poor teams then there's 50 feet of crap and then there's us. it's an unfair -- >> could the as season be better than the "mon

she is very aware that bill is not someone who is going to give up his fill landerring. she knows. when he runs for congress in 1974, she's working in washington. she knows bill is having a number of relationships. she sends her father and brother to the campaign, to quote, unquote, to help out but in fact to watch him. the campaign is such that whenever the they come in, they whisk, quote, the college girl out of the headquarter in order they don't have anything in common with each e other. the college girl leaves the campaign and gets married to someone else. she's aware of the fact it's an ongoing penchant of bill clinton. she's confused. she moves to arkansas to teach in law school. and she basically finally makes the decision that it's worth the gamble. they're in love with each other, they compliment each other, they each have skills that the other does not have, and as long as they can work together, she believes it is more likely that as partner in this case can achieve their goal of politically transforming the country than if each one were to take their own individual qua

there is a game one justin are lander top of the third. 1-0 oakland. cocoa crist being way home. mattel cabrera triple crown winner. >> the tigers " 3-2. >> dan hurd: when i was a child, california was a leader in education funding. erika derry: and the fact that california isn't making it a priority frustrates me. dan hurd: i'm ashamed of that, and i don't want this to continue for my daughter. brenda kealing: prop 38 is going to bring a lot of money to our schools. suzan solomon: the money stays at the school site. cade derry: what i would really like to see is that the teachers... that were laid off come back to the school. navaz hurd: a smaller class size. navaz hurd: as a mom i want that. as a teacher i want that. prop 38 is an opportunity of a generation. starting at $6.99. our tri-tip with hand-breaded onion straws, our crispy shrimp smothered in bang bang sauce, sizzler. >> watching wall street with our financial expert rob black the dow was up 30 points right now. when you think wal-mart you don't normally think american express. >> for them t

now city councilman brad lander told me that the tax breaks are "an outrageous giveaway."t is costing the city millions of dollars as a time of austerity and now sources tell me that the city's building department is scrutinizing the application for the program. this city has asked 157 for more information. xtel, the developer, won't tell us what the nature of those questions are. they haven't responded to our calls for comment. it is unclear whether these tax breaks will be accepted or not. now again, xtel didn't immediately return my e-mails and calls. read all about it at this -- this story and more on indiedwealth@cnbc.com. >> let me ask you a quick question here. these were credits, weren't they, that were being transferred from other buildings but applied to this one? >> correct. they bought a certificate which allowed them to help fund affordable housing in the brooklyn, bronx and our boroughs. in exchange, they got the affordable housing tax breaks in this big tower. the question is did you really get a one-for-one payoff, did it really benefit the city as much as

parker verses for lander. >> this last week has been about just as difficult as the post season gets.with verlander... i don't think anybody is going to change the approach or the way that they get ready for the game in these last couple of weeks. do not take guys for granted, no matter who is names is on the back of their jersey. of course, they have some of the best records in baseball so they are doing something right. >> the giants and the athletic days with back-to- back. with one more game against the wild card. and to take a look at this atlanta brave with a comeback possibly by st. louis and the umpire. calling this an fly ball. and they would have had a bases loaded with no outs but the eighth inning. the atlanta braves were showered the field it took them 18 minutes to clear it. and admittedly, he blew it and they filed a protest but it has been denied. st. louis has party and they are advancing to by washington. >> in the meantime, the aforementioned, 100-1. the baltimore or orioles. and the manager of the year. another feather in his cap. what a week for the texas rangers.

we knocked them around and this is the same thing with burr lander people are predicting it looks like it may be a sweep. -- justin verlander home run anything else walking around with giants gear. everyone has giants fever. >> i'm talking about those people who know what all that thought the giants could not do it. let's just see what happens in game two. >> the people that know what all, the espn stand is behind me the so-called experts. they had a heaping helping of humble pie. they predicted that justin verlander would just tear us up and he did not. >> the big question for today's game is are you going to be able to afford a ticket if you don't already have one? prices have skyrocketed since last night's win. stub hub as about 1900 ticket still available. the cheapest one and standing room only is about $500. that is up $200 from the price yesterday. e the money they are available on stub hub. more than 40,000 fans attended the game and that was a huge congestion nightmare for the ballpark and surrounding area. the entire city of fremont was in the ballpark guess today just to put

just convert lander was terrific yesterday with 11 strikeouts taking him to the lc s. they will be there. they were a great story but it ended -- he was not yesterday went all the way so those -- some small gains and yankee games tonight, 5:something in the evening. dagen: and there is dale earnhardt junior who suffered a concussion at the kansas testing and after a racket -- was suffering. he is not racing at charlotte's or the following race. he was kind of out of it. in humans and place but he was one of the chaste drivers. he is one of the most popular athlete in the country. connell: we wish him the best. why do we always get into this. i just don't like it which is fine but i'm not arguing against the validity of its existence or anything. dagen: you sort of par. >> i am not but i will watch racing tonight. dagen: you don't drive. [talking over each other] dagen: the wife drives. you got the time? dagen: look at it. 15 minutes until the hour and nicole petallides has news. nicole: let's take a look at best buy the electronics retailer. electronics are the top com

cut a deal for democrat mary lander of louisiana. cut a deal with bill nelson. they never had a public hearing. they forced it through with just democratic support. that's why it is so screwed up. we have to fix it. if we can do it on a bipartisan basis. the only way you'll have a health care system that really works in america is to do it on a bipartisan basis. who better than me to table to help get that done. >> i want to talk about 9/11 for a moment. it's been a focal point of your campaign for the last week or so. governor thompson, you raised this issue with an ad where you were critical of a vote that she took in 2006 on the anniversary of 9/11. essentially, they criticize her for not showing support for the victims and families and first responders and 9/11. you have any regrets about running backs athat ad? >> i was sitting in my office as secretary of health on 9/11 and i saw those two planes flying to the twin towers. i got a call from governor george pataki and from mayor rudy guiliani is saying, tommy, we need help right now. i was the only cabinet

newfound landers, family means more than anything to them, and that's such a great value. growing up, my father, despite being abandoned, he said to us, there's nothing more important than family. that's because he knew his father abandoned him, and newfoundlanders, if you are their cousin, they can't do enough for you so for me, the piece, as well, there's nothing more important than family, and i learned that through this book in many ways. >> now we explore some lesser known history on booktv. we travel just outside of agus that to waterville maine sitting down with raffael scheck describing those massacred by the germman military in 1940. >> this book is about massacres of black french soldiers. these were soldiers who had been drafted by the french army in africa, mostly subsahar africa and that region, and they were brought to france in 1939 and 1940, and they fought against the german army. when the german army captured these soldiers and made them prisoner, many officers ordered that they be executed, massacred right upon capture, and i estimate that around 3,000 o

there is a lot of lander going on from the democrats attacking the conservatives because they don't haveromney called obama a liar, too. this is not a one-sided event. romney continued to say obama wasn't being truthful about the things he said. don't act like it's only the democrats doing it. megyn: alan, is there some hypocrisy. the left likes to hold itself out as accepting. whatever -- whether it's gaze or gay marriage or transgender. whatever it is, they are loving and open mind. this is not accepting, loving or open mined. >> no, it's not. but it's not only the left that has hypocrisy. you have romney embracing donald trump who has been saying stupid things. don't pin it on the left as though they are the only side who has crazy people saying crazy things. megyn: the left holds themselves out as being the partist acceptance. >> they definitely think that in hollywood. >> the right hold themselves out as being good christians and patriots who love this country and they don't always act like that. it's just as much if not more hypocrisy on the right. megyn: does this get it done? she

he landerred safely. look at that.in new mention i -- he landed safely, look at that, perfectly in mention new mexico -- in new mexico. >> they thought he would go at supersonic speeds. i don't know if he did. it doesn't say here so i don't know. >> we have to rely on the man who did it first. >> well, speaking of that, the first person ever to break the sound barrier, chuck jaeger celebrated the event by doing it again. that came last night on the 65th anniversary of his original historic flight. this time the 89-year-old yeager sat in the back seat of a fighter jet above the mojave desert. good for him. incredible. >>> space shuttle "endeavour" arrived at its new home in california but the final journey took longer than expected. it moved so slowly through los angeles that it took three days to make the 12-mile trip. they had to cut trees and remove telephone poles and streetlights. thousands were thrilled seeing history in the making. >> pretty cool. >> it is. >>> mr. baumgardner did, indeed, break the sound barrier

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. >> i think detroit is favored in this because of ver lander. what the giants did six times with their backs against the wall in the last two series, there are those who believe in the baseball gods, that faith is just with them. i don't buy into any of that. i believe in execution on the field and i think detroit is the better team. >> i used to believe in the baseball gods, too, awhile back. back to my yankees. a quick question for you, you heard what brian cashman was saying about a-rod. traded or not? >> absolutely not. they have nowhere to send him. he will be back. 9 yankees will come back almost exactly the same. >> why trade him and also give away maybe $90 million, as well? pay him to go away that much? not going to happen. >> nice to see you guys. thank you. >>> still ahead this morning on "starting point," todd akin kind of has a little company. listen to this. >> even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that god intended to happen. >> that's republican senate candidate taking some heat for saying

win away from the world series beating up on the new york yankees 2-1 behind their ace justin very landeres three games to none. they can sweep the game with a win tomorrow night. the only baseball team to come back from an 0-3 deficit, name it. >> i don't know. >> the red sox. >> when was the last time they won the world series? >> 2007. >> when was the last time the white sox did? >> 2005. 2005. >> yes. >> you beat me on that one. >>> 5:22. it will be beyonce on nfl's biggest stage. she's headline the super bowl halftime show. beyonce posting a photo on her website sporting eye black that reads february 3, 2013. the date of the super bowl in new orleans. an official announcement from the nfl is expected today. >>> and a much different debate this time around. the sharper tone with a lot more tension. so who won? the results of our cnn poll and we have a lot more highlights as well coming up. >>> and if you're leaving the house right now, watch us any time at all on your desk top and mobile phone, go to cnn.com/tv. 100% new. ♪ 100% greek. 100% mmm... ♪ oh wow, that is mmm... ♪ in fact it

look, they're rather -- at the job summit i had a discussion with alan lander, an old friend of mine. he had a different approach. he said public jobs, public works. 1930s. i don't think we're there yet. i don't think we could ever do it. but we certainly could -- can justify it and indeed there is a demand for an increased investment in infrastructure across the country are. and they create jobs and that's part of the president's jobs will, jobs for postal. >> how does that affect the left of the job market that has to do with construction? >> it's not just construction, but in the short term it only affects people involved in the planning and construction of highways and airports, brought to, et cetera. that's not on the construction workers. their design people in the service people of all kinds. but is there, you know, do we have, you know, there's no silver bullet. what i'm saying is you can begin to think about this in lots of different ways and say let's try a range of ways and see what works because we got this persistent, real, structural problem. this is coming you know, par

>> well, we actually have had a lander, phoenix in 2008, went to the mars arctic. so there we were looking specifically at landing on ice as we did and understanding how ice causes different formations there and understanding the chemistry. so there are limitations. i think with curiosity, though, we have learned now with this combined, um, retrofire and soft landing of the sky crane that's quite general. for the air bags, we were limited to areas where you, the atmosphere was strong enough so that you slowed down enough before you dropped the bag. and so i don't -- i think it's more the topology. many people would like to land in this area that is like the grand canyon that extends for 3,000 miles across mars. to do that kind of a landing would be very tricky, but we've now gotten pretty close to that. >> as a percentage, how much of mars have the various programs discovered, and that includes the polar expedition. >> as a percentage. well, you know, i describe this with one of the, a couple of the scientists as being an easter egg hunt. it's like, okay, mars has

>> well, we actually have had a lander, phoenix in 2008, went to the mars arctic. so there we were looking specifically at landing on ice as we did and understanding how ice causes different formations there and understanding the chemistry. so there are limitations. i think with curiosity, though, we have learned now with this combined, um, retrofire and soft landing of the sky crane that's quite general. for the air bags, we were limited to areas where you, the atmosphere was strong enough so that you slowed down enough before you dropped the bag. and so i don't -- i think it's more the topology. many people would like to land in this area that is like the grand canyon that extends for 3,000 miles across mars. to do that kind of a landing would be very tricky, but we've now gotten pretty close to that. >> as a percentage, how much of mars have the various programs discovered, and that includes the polar expedition. >> as a percentage. well, you know, i describe this with one of the, a couple of the scientists as being an easter egg hunt. it's like, okay, mars has