that was host to the press and he is raising money again today in between stops in fort myers and/or lando what is campaign saying about florida and how does it look like there? i forget whether obama carried florida. did he? >> he certainly did carry florida in 2008. >> okay. >> and jacksonville was one of the few areas of the state, few metro areas big major metro areas that he didn't carry. he lost by 8,000 votes to john mccain in duval county 4iers ago. >> that's really an area that he is -- that he, you know, needs to if not win at least cut down on the margin that romney might carry the john kerry in 2004 lost duval county by 60,000 votes. that was a pretty significant margin that the president made up from -- >> right. >> from the kerry baseline. he needs to, win most if not all of that if he is going to win florida again. >> is the campaign saying they believe florida is in play. >> they think florida is in play. there is pretty much, if you look at where -- where they are traveling and where they are spending the bulk of their money, they are really looking at florida, ohio and vi