professor emeritus at pompei fabray university in barcelona from the bedroom city of bruges luke van langan hole over academic director at the institute for european studies and joining us from noble in slovenia near italy's border gianluca gentleman thank you very much for joining us. also lie i'd like to start with you. prime minister the whole he says that it actually didn't achieve anything in about sixty years of fighting yet the group says that it has reached the end of his journey what do we what do we understand from that visit did achieve one very major objective which was the murder and nine hundred seventy three. of. franco's apparently political successor. and that gave it a very very strong push and a very very strong prestige that him the impact of current or blanco's death however was dissipated by an increase in. terrorist campaign in. a murder campaign which. confused many and which has led over a contradictory path to the present so it is not an easy balance to deal with. there are i think voices even within the governing conservative party that are talking about returning

is langan involved? >> langan is involved but i am not. >> supervisor peskin: so asking you questions about that would not be productive, would it? >> i wouldn't know. i was only involved on the earthquake ground motions. >> supervisor peskin: for ocean wide? >> correct. >> supervisor peskin: not as it would have impacted adjoining structures that may now be -- >> [off mic] may have been involved in that, yes. >> supervisor peskin: colleagues, do you have questions for mr. golsorki? i don't believe i have any further questions but maybe we can get mr. straun or mr. tom to come up. i might have a couple more questions for you. and thank you for your candor. >> thank you very much. >> if i could, i just want to mention on the second page of the revised geotechnical investigation report, there appears to be a reference to the earlier reports that you asked about early on and in particular there's a reference to a report dated 14, august, 2000. dr. golisorki referenced 2001 one time but i believe -- that's t