some 450% since then let's talk about the stock now, joining us to discuss that, wells fargo collin langanal weight and craig irwin, his price target, 185. neither one of you guys are particularly positive but a stock up 6% just today collin, any reason why the move for today? >> yeah, i think if you look at it, this is a very momentum-driven stock. there's been a slew of bad news over the last month and a half the price cut investors think is maybe one of the last pieces of bad news and sets up possible good news going forward. i think people are looking at the news flow starts to change, they have earnings, we could hear them talk about the demand surge with the price cut and they'll have investor day march 1st. again, an opportunity it talk about new products and future growth maybe this story starts to change a bit >> it hit your price target, 130. saw it hit right there i guess my question is, you're not a believer, necessarily, in this move or at least the more positive story in terms of demand building. >> i definitely think this is going to drive demand. i raised my delivery foreca