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this is not only at the langley center.lso taking place perhaps out of the ames center in california. lou: the west coast facility. the aims nasa facility science center as well. the obama administration program, literally hundreds of chinese nationals are gaining access to some of our most sensitive and advanced technology and data. >> they are, and some ofhe information given to me as to where he had an office and what was available to them -- and keep in mind he has already taken one laptop, one computer back to china. they already have a lot of the information. much of the game that china has made in space has become from their stealing. much of their economic gain has come from stealing. not only in national security but an issue of jobs. as we create a job, they're taking it out of the bottom of stealing it. they're basically stealing. these are fundamentally people who do not wish america well. lou: in his instance he was a representative of -- well, he is hardly alone in this effort to spite, to carry out an espiona

theif you would get back -- individual at langley was paid for by taxpayer money. the attack jarrett subsidize him if it could be happening at langley -- if you could look at that and get back, i would appreciate it. gangs.stions on a recent bulletin produced by the national gang intelligence been noted there have growing numbers of violence in as in thewell midwest. do you believe the national gang intelligence center serves an important role? >> i do. >> do you believe these gangs have any connections to terrorist groups like al qaeda affiliate's and is there concern they might sending members to join? a number of individuals from the some of the community -- from the community and elsewhere somaliacountry went to to join al-shabaab. i do not think we have found that related to the radicalization. aswas more happenstance opposed to the candying a fertile field for recruiting for al-shabaab. >> most of the sudanese i know of come here to escape the bashir administration. who are they? >> i am much more familiar with the somali community than the sudanese community

. >> if it was happening at nasa langley and i saw your testimony last week's with regard to clapper with regard to china, could it be happening at ames or at goddard or other places? has anyone taken a systematic look at it? >> we do have -- we have a number of investigations ongoing but in terms of a systematic review and being undertaken, i would have to get back to you. i am not aware myself of a systematic review. >> if you would get back -- the individual at langley was paid for by taxpayer money. if it could be happening at langley -- if you could look at that and get back, i would appreciate it. two questions on gangs. a recent bulletin produced by the national gang intelligence center noted there have been growing numbers of violence in ne usa as well as in the midwest. do you believe the national gang intelligence center serves an important role? >> i do. >> do you believe these gangs have any connections to terrorist groups like al qaeda affiliate's and is there concern they might be sending members to join? >> a number of individuals >> a number of individuals from the co

and doing work for the cia on iraq wmd through a 5u8 of the briefings i heard at langley, i never sawdible evidence that there was an ongoing program. that's when i began it believe, they are getting serious about this. they want to go into iraq. >> two weeks after the speech, cheney again mace hic chen ginzbur cheney again makes his speech. >> he is acquiring the equipment he needs in order to build uranium rich weapons of mass destruction. >> saddam and nukes, a terrifying prospect based on the cia discovery that iraq is attempting to purchase 60,000 aluminum tubes. some analyst become convinced that the tubes are intended to be used in center fuses to make uranium for weapons. soon after the discovery, the department of energy gets hold of the actual tubes and asked engineering professor houston wood, an expert on gas center fusions to evaluate them. >> from the information they gave me, it took about 15 minutes to come to the conclusion that the tubes could not be used for gas infusions. they are too thick. too heavy. >> the energy department concludes that the tubes are for conve

and doing work for the cia on iraq wmd through all of the briefings i heard at langley, i never saw onee that there was an ongoing program. that's when i began to believe, they're getting serious about this. they want to go into iraq. >> two weeks after the speech, cheney again makes his case on national television. >> what we know is bits and pieces we gather through the intelligence system, what we do know, absolutely certainty, that he is using his procurements to acquire the equipment he needs in order to enrich uranium to build a nuclear weapon. >> saddam and nukes. absolutely certainty. a terrifying prospect based on the cia's discovery that iraq is attempting to purchase 60,000 aluminum tubes. some analysts become convinced that the tubes are intended to be used in centrifuges to make uranium for nuclear weapons. soon after the discovery, the department of energy gets hold of the actual tubes and asks engineering professor houston wood, an expert on gas centrifuges to evaluate them. >> from the information they gave me, it took about 15 minutes to come to the conclusion that the

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jenna: well, "happening now" a potential national security or breach as scientists at nasa's langleyearch center in virginia is now in federal be custody after he was pulled off a plane that was bound for his native china. in his possession, say the feds, a laptop and other computer data that may contain some sensitive military secrets. word of this follows recent reports that the chinese military is conducting cyber warfare, spying on u.s. companies from this building on the outskirts of shanghai. just some context. we'll talk more about this particular story with doug mckelway who's live from washington. what can you tell us about this contractor? >> his name is bo chang working on sensitive imaging technology. he was first brought to the attention of authorities when a whistleblower alerted congressman frank wolf to nasa's lax security procedures involving foreign nationals. fbi and dhs agents arrested him on saturday afternoon at dulles airplane after he had purchased a one-way ticket to china and lied to authorities about electronics he was carrying as he attempted to board the

you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harkin welcome to the big picture. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images cold world has been seeing from the streets of canada. trying to hope for a shelter on the day.

you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. more news today violence is once again flared up. saying these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. giant corporations are old today . thanks for staying with us eleven minutes past the hour israel's prime minister's finally managed to form a coalition ahead of saturday's deadline but at the cost of some an easy compromise for the first time in a decade ultra-orthodox groups longtime allies of benjamin netanyahu were left out or he's paulus leader has more from tel aviv. a new coalition agreement has been signed and this follows weeks of suspicion and mistrust between the various political parties and also turbulent coalition negotiations now there are two newcomers to the israeli political scene the important point to make is that neither has a lot of political experience the first i

you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom hartman welcome to the big picture. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. the giant corporations are all today. mission. critical three. three. three. three. three. three. video for your media project free media. tom. thanks for joining us here on odds here not long now for the data but for the meantime russia and china must be part of the u.n. investigation into the alleged use of chemical weapons in a. syria that's according to a senior russian diplomat i mean while rebels have stepped up their accusations against forces loyal to president assad let's clear it up now go to details from odds he's paul asla. the syrian opposition says that forces loyal to the syrian president bashar assad fired what they are claiming a chemical weapons at rebels surrounding an army base

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you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harkin welcome to the big picture. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. the giant corporations to rule the day . what about the way the from moscow the killing of a black teenager by the new york police has caused public outrage and evoked a week long protests in brooklyn the activists chanted slogans accusing the n.y.p.d. of racism and cruelty the clashes between demonstrators and law enforcement officials resulted in dozens of arrests. as the story. that was. sixteen year old kimani gray was killed by police shot four times in the front and three in the back the n.y.p.d. claimed the teen had pointed a gun at them however this remains i'm certain that there was a weapon that no one saw or not his friends his family didn't know he had a weapon and there were a lot of w

you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. the giant corporations rule the day. continues here in r.t. washington the script a key phase of its european missile defense shield so adding a lack of phones and development problems the united states will deploy additional ground based missile interceptors on its pacific coast instead in what is said to be a response to pyongyang's recent nuclear threats of easily nicholas has the details looks like the nuclear threat coming from north korea is now considered far more dangerous by the us than any potential risk coming from iran at least it was pyongyang as missile threat that u.s. secretary of defense chuck hagel cited as the prime reason for beefing up missile capacity as an already existing ba

you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. on. the news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. the giant corporations are all today. hello welcome back the hunger strike among guantanamo bay prisons has entered its forty fifth day a point that could become critical for inmates health according to doctors rights groups claim more than one hundred detainees are refusing food over mistreatment while the pentagon maintains the number is much lower the strike has brought the plight of prisoners back into the headlines at least one former u.k. resident is being kept there without charge reports now on the british government's response r.t. turned to the u.k. foreign office for that position and we can have a listen to the statement that we received back right now. the u.k. has long held that in

still to come here on our team new head at the cia john brennan earned as the director of langley despite a controversy on capitol hill over his indorsement of the u.s. deadly drone program. how some communities in britain are battling to keep the age old traditions alive that are being put at risk by strict tax policies stay with us lots more to come here on r.t. . did you see darth vader is stormtroopers trying to make their way into the ukrainian justice ministry as part of a protest well probably a lot of you saw this fun viral video but how many people remember what exactly they wanted and what their protest demands were all about probably not that many trust me i understand that using wacky protest tactics gets media attention and if you are pushing a cause that media attention is critical but when no one even gets what you want or why you are in that wacky costume it doesn't help there seems to be like almost a protest a culture and language like you see people protesting they're so satisfied with themselves in their costumes and silly gimmicks but if your protest is actually aimed

you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. more news today violence has once again flared up. these are the images have been seeing from the streets of canada. the giant corporations are all today. oh. welcome back you're watching r t britain's a twenty thirteen budget does kept true to the spirit of austerity. across the board but also including a reduction in corporate taxes unveiled by the architect of bridges austerity program george osborne included measures to support those most most hard hit. by the cuts let's talk to our jesus or for that who listens is what the budget is presentational what judge all sport had to say sara what other details anything out of the ordinary. why do you think it's often if you walk into a situation in which you're going to be say critically judged already knowing you've got a minus but of course of the losing the triple a

you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harvey welcome to the big picture. let me let me i want to know what all let me ask you a question. here i know spent working its way around in the bank we have our knives our. behavior to give the scientists bad staying married again we're in a situation where being i desire to talk about derailing the way. it. can. change. welcome back to the kaiser report imax kaiser john manager reggie middleton a boom bust blot dot com welcome back to the kaiser report thank you could. talk about cyprus having crossed the rubicon. the mere thought of confiscating what it's saying it would put in the bank is basically revealing to everybody exactly how for you when they go to fill a hole that probably can't be filled think about it what is the purpose of a bank you know you take a bank is a place where you put your money to keep it safe and to hopefully get it back wi

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you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harkin welcome to the big picture. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. giant corporations are ruled today. this is welcomed by the syrian national coalition has decisively rejected the resignation of its president earlier al-khateeb announced he was stepping down just months after he was elected to scarcity sales and. in his statement was outed said that he was stepping down because some matters have to quote him reached red lines now he hasn't explained exactly what prompted his resignation but he did say that he was designing to be able to work with freedom that cannot be available from official institutions keep in mind that her to it was someone that both russia and the united states look to as a person that they could negotiate with on the future of syria back in

and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hearor see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm charming welcome to the big picture. of potentially deadly blizzard taking aim for the northeast it's expected to hit stunning in a few hours from new york to maine we have team coverage of the storm. but what we're watching is the very heavy snow moving into boston proper earlier today it was very sticky you can see it start to become much more powdery down here the bottom line there's still a lot of snow out here a good place for snowball fight the flu. season it is kind of pretty incredible day there and even record snowfall throughout much of it might still be a slug three drug realises submergence three deer or exceptions. the worst cure for those things. like how to give it to the radio guy and call up a zero minutes from a click off if i want to watch quote for a good cause you've never seen anything like this on truckin.

you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you don't know i'm tom harkin welcome to the big picture. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images you're world has been seeing from the streets of canada. the giant corporations are all today. group name the islamic state of iraq says it was behind a series of attacks in baghdad on choose day that killed sixty five people are mostly shiite areas of the city it was sadly the deadliest violence to hit iraq this year it came on the tenth anniversary of the u.s. led invasion of the country the grim legacy of the iraq invasion could be seen in the city of fallujah most were it to cause also bore the brunt of that massive assault back in two thousand and four the ammunition used there is believed to have contained depleted uranium and white phosphorus and the effects are still being felt a little but this doctor because of a busby author of a number of studi

you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for langley you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom hartman welcome to the big picture. more news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. the giant corporations rule the day. you're watching our see life from good to have you with us washington has abandoned the final stage of its european on to missile shield saying it doesn't have the cash to pay for it instead the pentagon is going to deploy additional interceptors along its pacific coast and according to the u.s. defense secretary of the move as a response to the threat posed by north korea the communist state recently tested a third nuclear bomb. has the details now for us looks like the nuclear threat coming from north korea is now considered far more dangerous by the u.s. than any potential risk coming from iran at least it was pyongyang as missile threats that u.s. secretar

. >> in langley virginia it was known as the year of the spy. >> there was a whole bunch of spies forwho were exposed. >> they blow up the power blows up big time. >> behind these headlines a quiet devastation was occurring at the agency. >> you had sources that were either rested or disappeared? >> that's correct in august a kgb officer is arrested in moss to you on home leave. sometimes between the beginning of october. another one of our sources is also arrested. then november 6th, 1985, a kgb officer named martina we never see him again. also a kgb officer. >> a few months later the general also dispierd in moscow. >> they feel like they couldn't keep everybody safe. >> this never happened before. it was unprecedented. >> what did you think? >> there were two theories one we have a trait erro or or two are reading our communications. >> it would take 7 years before sandy, paul and the rest of the cia discovered one of the worst trade traitors in history was their colleague aldrich aims. >> aims was fascinating to me. >> pete early sent 15 hours interview the aims after his rays. w

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he worked at the langley center in virginia and took a nasa computer to china. the computers and hard drives could have had sensitive protected information. the arrest comes on the heels of another multi year fbi information here in mountain view. investigators tried to determine whether sensitive information was given to chinese nationals. the u.s. attorney for san francisco declined to file charges. several congressman want to know exactly what was given to the chinese and whether any u.s. export laws were broken in the process. >>> when the senate considers gun control measures next month senator dianne feinstein's ban on assault weapons will not be part of the weapon. harry reid notified her the ban will be offered as an amendment. this comes days after feinstein's emotional exchange before a senate committee hearing. feinstein coauthored the 1994 assault weapons ban that expired after a decade. interest in renewing it rose. >>> an exercise takes a tragic turn. seven marines dead and seven more injured after a mortar explosion. >> it happened at the hawthorn

. >> he meets starla while they'll at the langley air force base. >> i loved him.e was a sweet heart. >> starla's mother has fond memories of their wedding in charlottesville. >> it was a beautiful day. i thought he really loved my daughter. he was a very caring son-in-law. >> after the air force, patrick and starla move into this complex. she takes a job as a lab technician on the university of virginia. he begins working at keller williams realty. >> patrick was quirky and funny and droll and nice. >> fellow sales associate, ellen pratt. >> i was as shocked as anyone could be at the final outcome of his story. >> we believe around the end of 2008, beginning of 2009 they started having some marital strife. mr. shemorry was saying she was not acting as she had before. there were some allegations she had been going through money very quickly. at some point they decide to take a trip down to new orleans. i think that was an attempt to see whether they could make the marriage work. and from what i understand, the trip to new orleans was actually fairly successful. >>

. >> he will be headed off to longlong -- langley to take over his new job. watching it happen in realtime here, luke, it was sort of a lonely senate floor when rand paul began and as the hours rolled by, there was this building pressure of support for him. and so it was as late as 11, midnight, where you have other republican senators who are not those typically rushing to the aid of rand paul who did come to offer their support. so many people are saying he made a constitutional point. he got an answer from the administration with holder giving him a letter talking about the drone program. >> something to keep an eye on. kelly o'donnell, thank you. let's get back to the upbeat jobs report. job gains well over 200,000 in february while the unemployment rate is at a four-year low, leading to a lot of green arrows on wall street. joining me now, becky, what is driving this report internally? >> there are some keys things here that people would say is a good sign. first of all, construction, the construction gains have been lagging. there was an increase of 48,

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koby langley. iraq war veteran. zainab al suwaij. a graduate of the university of baghdad and came to the united states in 2005. it is won wonderful to have you here. thank you for coming. you gave me nice and very gracious quiet approving nods when i managed to pronounce your names correctly. i'm thankful for that. nonverbal affirmation. let's start with the physical -- the basic landscape of iraq and iraq's infrastructure. i think one of the things americans -- it is hard for us to remember is that the country that we invaded in 2003 was a country that had been really devastated. devastated by a bombing campaign in the first gulf war and by sanctions that wering the strictest the world had ever seen. what was the situation on the ground in iraq when we entered in terms of infrastructure and what do we have now? >> in addition to talking here now, my message is -- >> far more useful. iraq was in shambles. unlike the perception we have of the u.s. that the war started in 2003. the war started in 1991. iraq was pretty much destroyed b

but when it comes to some of these claims, journalists who have good resources can just drive up to langley say to the cia, hey, look, let me see if the source material for that. >> you are right with this exception. i reported on this when i was at "washington post." it was something like 140 front-page pieces between august of 2002 and the date of the invasion carrying the administration's case for war and on the occasions when reporters wrote they were buried, minimized and spiked and bob woodward told me he felt he should have tried harder to get past the group thing. this wasn't an easy case to crack, but -- >> i'll admit, i didn't do a great job. i thought i was one of the best national correspondents in washington, and i did not do a good job. however, this is not easy work to do. not one intelligenceagy in the world, not the cia and not even saddam's people knew that he didn't have the weapons of mass destruction. >> it's worth noting, howie, not only did the u.s. government exaggerate his potential possession of weapons of mass destruction, but saddam wanted everybody to believe he

>> i was -- because it was a cia operation, we had set up our own operation center at langley and i wasting it from the cia. and we were doing the feedback into the situation room at the white house so that they were kept updated to what happened. >> so many years you were a budget guy. and now you're going to go down in american history as a very successful, intelligent, and military guy. >> you know, i often think about that. >> how did this happen? >> actually it was rahm emanuel who called me and said we're thinking about the cia job, and i said, rahm, you have to be nuts. i said, i spent most of my time working on budgets. and he said, you know, the president really wants to you do this because he thinks you've got the credibility to try to restore the reputation particularly of the cia at that time. and i looked at it as a challenge. i love a challenge. i'm a suck er for challenges. >> and his new challenge is daunting. he needs to decompress. leads me to -- he still stops everything to answer a call but now it's not the oval office or the pentagon, it's his wife at home in the ca

could lead to more transparency in the controversial program which has been shrouded in shadows at langley. for years, unmanned killing machines in the sky have been the weapon of choice for the central intelligence agency as a method of combatting terrorism. the drone kill count is formally classified but the new america foundation which has tracked drone strikes since they began estimates nearly 4,000 people have been killed. among that number are the deaths of high profile targets such as american born cleric andwar al aki of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula but also innocent civilians. international rights groups say there is no recourse for the families since the u.s. does not acknowledge cia drone attacks even occur. the white house argues drones are effective in protecting the u.s. and its interests. defenders argue they are preferable to sending troops into more foreign countries but human rights groups argue there are serious constitutional questions about the program, specifically the extra judicial targeted killing of enemy combatants and, most notably, american citizens such a

until we get answers, john brennan does not belong near langley. and joining me analyst, juan williams and chairman of the faith freedom coalition ralph reed. >> sean: good to see you. >> good to be with you, sean. >> sean: this is madness, they can't say, yes, no, they contradict themselves. give an answer. >> i think the answer should be no. >> sean: should be, but it's not. >> the thing is if an airplane and by the way senator graham has said this, if an airplane is headed toward the world trade center again and we have the ability to knock that plane out of the sky. >> sean: we have to do it. >> that's what we're talking about because the congress has authorized the president, president bush to go after and kill terrorists. >> sean: that's the not what the essence of rand paul's question and the fact that they left the door, then tried to qualify, well, we don't imagine, we don't intend, that's very ambiguous language. ralph reed, what do you think? >> well, what's happened here, sean, is real simple. a president who ran saying he was going to

when we returned to langley, all of the senior officers were present. of middlem director east and african division took the lead on what the agency should do next. it was a distinguished and decisive individual armed with a doctorate on colonial african history. he told him plans were underway to establish the cia task force and wanted dick covar to head the task force. he was one of the agency's most distinguished intelligence analyst and extraordinarily gifted writer. and he was generally about pierre and production management, having served in a whole series of senior analytic capacities. bruce clark stated he wanted me to be the task force military deputy responsible for military analysis. the cia task force took form reject a cold in a hurry. we used a large conference room and adjoining offices. there was space for us to operate. would turn out a situation report every four hours until the conflict came to closure. the director of operations, adjacent to the task force, also was easy to reach to ask for the latest from our clandestine and collect