only did ted olson argued in that case to overrule the case which he had won, but you also had a lanham cake and, the new solicitor general argue the first case -- you had elena kagan argue in that case. there was an amazing lineup of >> > > -- there was an amazing lineup of advocates. >> she was the dean of harvard law school but was relatively new to the solicitor general job, but you would not have known it. she was very comfortable with those nine justices. act one that we have read this week, which you have probably heard about, which involves two men from florida or juveniles when they committed their crimes. he was 13 when he raped an elderly woman, the other was 16 when he first committed armed robbery and then broke probation and was involved in an armed home invasion, 16 and 17 for those crimes. both of them got life without parole. many of you may not have known that juvenile could be sentenced to life without parole. even though the majority of states allow it, there are only a handful of states that have walked away without parole for crimes committed under 18. i think ther

. >> my name is joe lanham. i am from london. a lot of people cannot even get a job. it is important for families who are in desperate need for money. they are not getting the money to go to university, the money to travel. we need the money. sometimes it seems the only option is crime. if we are going to reduce the crime rate, we desperately need to give children the opportunity to work. if we want experience, we have to go where the experience is. connections is not enough and cannot take over all. >> thank you very much. right behind you. yes, you. >> catherine, eastern region. i agree with the young lady from wales. she is right, the training and college, if he took apprentices, it is so much more useful to go into the company and then they get the experience. that is what we have to be looking to do. companies cannot afford to take them on any more. they're getting product placement, but not work placement. >> thank you very much, this young man here. >> i am ben smith from the southwest. i think we have identified today the work issues and university issues. i t