and more on this let's go to our financial correspondent in frankfurt chelsea to lanie chelsea good to see you the e.u. has said that it will seek a negotiation is the u.s. interested what are the likelihoods here. the outcome of this is going to depend a large degree on the outcome of the november elections so the e.u. likely won't go forward with these tariffs until after the november election because that could very clearly change the dynamics between the u.s. and the e.u. in terms of train to go she. the e.u. says that it doesn't want to impose these tariffs at all what they want is for the u.s. to take off the tariffs that they imposed as part of the airbus case last year and those have been heading really a broad range of industries french wine italian she has all sorts of things so they want those to be gone the white house the trumpet ministration has been quite reluctant to do that they've been negotiating over this for over a year now and they really haven't made any headway but if joe biden does win the election it could open the door to a longer term settlement for this ver