here's one of the figures i talked to my friend james lankford about it. 15% of those let in the country making asylum claims of the board end up getting asylum. in other words 85% fail. one of the big thanks a subordinate bill did was resolve to a large extent a test at the border. these are not people coming over the wall or swimming the river they are presenting themselves at ports of entry sing of a credible fear of persecution in my home country. that is being abused. i'm delighted to her openness about legal immigration. that's what's built this country. all of us here are descendents of immigrants. but, let's not talk about all of these people are criminals and that kind of thing. these are people presenting themselves for asylum. i believe the standard is too low at the border that's what the bill we voted on master change. i would have made a huge difference for quick asylum processor fling for persecution regions, not economic reasons. the lot write notes as you enter the country immediately declare yourself you say you're doing it for persecution regions are automatically gran

jim lankford is a pretty conservative republican from oklahoma.t would have raised the bar on asylum claims, establishing credible fear would have put more judges out there, more asylum officers. >> brian: i could stop you i talked to him extensively. aren't judges, people essentially deputized. left the discretion up to people like the joe biden administration who has a reputation of come one, come all. there was no provision if you were unaccompanied minor you get to stay then you eventually send for your family. >> brian, i guarantee you if that bill becomes law, the numbers will go down. just politically, we have this -- this is what people hate about washington. that was a good bill. and the political forces decided no, we would rather have the problem to complain about. than to fix the problem. that's why people are so fed up with washington. >> brian: senator lankford would tell you the problem he had there wasn't more people delegate in during the process. and 8 democrats voted against it. so it wouldn't have passed anyway. >> so often. >>

what they did they suck erred lankford.write a bill that we know won't pass and get a couple -- foolish senators to agree. this then we know it won't pass. when it doesn't pass we will blame the republicans for the border mess. he fell for the trap. this is nothing but an election ploy. they haven't done a single thing with this overflow. they never tried secure the border. >> laura: that's a joke. >> they unsecured the border. unsecured the border. >> laura: i don't think anyone with buying this, i guess they are trying as hard as they can. it's not working, tom as always. the angle is going to bring you inside the commonwealth of pennsylvania. who is really helping the trump turnout machine and also, keeping counties in precincts on notice. we will tell how it is, we will introduce them, next >> laura: the verdict seems to be. in democrats are failing the american people, and they are leaving the party in droves. >> pennsylvania voter registration you register by party and you go back to november of 2020, you see democrat

here is one figure, i talked with my friend james lankford about it. only 15% of those lead into the country making asylum claims at the border and up getting asylum. 85% fail. one big thing the border bill did that we voted on last year that would have solved the problem to a large extent was to limit the test at the border. so these are not people coming over the wall or swimming in the river. they are people who present themselves that port of entry. i'm delighted to hear the openness to legal immigration because that has built the country. all of us are descendants of immigrants. but let's not talk about all the people are criminals and that kind of thing. they are people presenting themselves for asylum. i believe the standard is too low at the border and that is what that bill last year would have changed and would have made a huge difference. >> the asylum process is supposed to be where you are fleeing for persecution reasons or economic reasons, not personal reasons. you are automatically granted legal asylum status at that point. >> how did y

end of the day lankford actually voted against it.s wrong with that bill? >> it allows 5,000 people in a day, nearly 2 million people they're going to allow into the country illegally. it does not secure the border -- maria: and i just want the say this, to conflate that bill with the murder of laken riley, let's be clear, okay? the bill was dead this year, but the venezuelan national accused of killing riley entered and was released into the country in 203222. so these are two separate situations, and you can't conflate them. the trump campaign responded and they said this, quote: kamala harris claimed the border was secure just days after laken riley after jose ibarra crossed into the nation. ibarra was released into the country by kamala harris. that's from the trump campaign. there's really no way to argue that any of in this is related because he was released, arrested and released in 20322, congressman. but go ahead. please tell us what was wrong with the bill. >> yeah. so it allows almost 2 million people to be able to come in

james lankford and we voted it down because it was a disaster bill. have codified everything that they had done the last three year, and is we obviously didn't want that. but, no, i -- sometimes it sounds like she doesn't know what's going on or what has really happened. he hasn't a really studied it. but i'm telling you, there's been nothing done about immigration in the last four years that the biden-harris administration even thought about stopping or trying to correct. larry: that bill that she always refers to which was an election year ploy, it wasn't trump who killed that bill. they're already a bunch of republican senators who were against that bill. if there are democratic senators who were existence that bill, probably for different -- against that bill, probably for different reasons. and that bill would have allowed roughly, i'm going to just do this in round numbers, that bill would have allowed roughly 2 million illegals coming in every year in that bill, codified, probably a bigger number because it didn't include people being airlifted

james lankford, who was a republican senator who negotiated the legislation, very conservative guy. you know, he got a deal that republicans had wanted for years. this is not meeting them at the 50 yard line. i mean, it's sunday, so use a football analogy. this was not meeting them at the 50 yard line. it was on the 10 yard line on our side of the field, defending the goal. i mean, that is what the legislation, you know, how it was look at. there were a lot of popular things in there for me. i represented border state. these were, you know, key components of a plan that we needed to strengthen our borders to 30. but because donald trump, it's now been delayed. kamala harris said she will sign this legislation. i think when donald trump is gone, after he loses, were going to bring that legislation back, we are going to get it to her desk in january. she's going to sign it. border patrol pay is going to come up, we are going to hire more agents. we are going to build the infrastructure we need. >> joe biden won arizona by fewer than 11,000 voice. .3%, but from the numbers perspective,

more recently, it was proposed by jim length hurt, -- james lankford, a suit -- conservative senator but rejected by the president. that is unfortunate, one thing -- she went to the border and said she would sign the legislation that did the things we talked about before and if you are going to have a lasting solution on the border, it has to be a partisan. and that is what kamala harris is proposing. >> senator, good to have you. thank you for taking time with us. senator jeff flake of arizona, we appreciate your time. governor tim walz is in saginaw, michigan making campaign stops this morning. he will attend a church -- a church service in saginaw before this afternoon, flying to the east coast for events in massachusetts and connecticut. of course, vice president harris is in georgia this morning. will be dropping in to see what she's doing there. this edition of velshi across america and the initial state of arizona continues next. i will be joined by senator mark kelly, he's been stumping for kamala harris i will also speak to the democratic candidate for the other sanity, cong

is just hitting on what you just brought up, the bill that the senate tried to pass the senator lankford and sinema. it just seems like president biden and kamala harris and tim walz just use that as a speaking point to say that that bill got passed, that would solve molar problems. president biden has said it time and time again and it seems like there is a lot from the media as well as on the debates when president trump was debating president biden and kamala harris, when jd vance was debating tim walz. seems like a huge opportunity just to share that. all you guys say is pass the bill, pass the bill. but it's not going to do anything because you have 5000 border crossings a day. so at the end the day i guess my question is why are the republican party politicians, your argument has no merit. it's not holding any water. just pressing them on that. that would dissipate any type of argument they would have. guest: i do agree with you. the more you dig into that bill and explain that bill, the more it starts to fall apart. he stopped -- you start talking about how it doesn't end cajun re

it was crafted by conservative senator from oklahoma, james lankford. i know him. he is super conservative, but he is a man of principle. wants to get it done. democrats and republicans worked on this piece of legislation. but border patrol say this is what we need in here. these are the experts. and the chamber of commerce and "the wall street journal" said pass this thing. kamala harris helped get there. 1500 new border agents. detection for drugs. doj money to speed up the adjudications on this. just what america wants. but as soon as that was getting ready to pass and tackle this, donald trump said no. told them to vote against it because it gives him a campaign issue. it gives him -- what would donald trump talk about if we actually did some of these things? and they need to be done by the legislature. you can't just do this through the executive branch. so, look we have the options to the this. donald trump had four years. he had four years to do this. and he promised you, america, how easy it would be. i'll build you a big beautiful wall and mexico will pay

. >> or border policies are the most strongest in the fairest we have seen, james lankford and 0, thell street journal, the chamber of commerce also passes legislation coming after congress authorized border agents in congress to authorize d.o.j. to speed adjudication on the asylum claims, that's what kamala harris is talking about. trey: i have three quick questions chairman. if the border was secure why did they need a set of border bill, if the border was not secure why did they wait. a half years to propose it, can they name a single american deck can still be alive even have this bill passed. >> all good questions but you're exactly right this is deliberate and intentional unpremeditated done on day one when they said number remain in mexico and were building the wall when you get to the border you will not be detained to be released. >> 10 million illegal migrants under the biden here's regime 99 on the terrorist watch list, thousands of convicted thousands of criminals have commented they lost track of 300,000 kids in fact the secure border the more crazy we know that is not th

citizens for responsible budget that is awarded to people as conservative as mike braun and james lankford, and as liberal as sheldon whitehouse and jeanne shaheen. it doesn't go to a lot of us, but it goes to us because we are willing to have this discussion that in a little bit you will hear "demagogue," because that is the tradition. to say that the republicans will throw social security over the cliff. we can get this done. she will say i am for cutting benefits. here is what i suggest we ought to. take a serious look at the retirement age. right now if you are my age, there are people who have a lower number than this, but at 67 years of age you can get full benefits. i say, let's look 10 years out from now and start adding may be one month a year for six years, that would provide -- it recognizes the longevity of life. the other thing is we can look at raising the cap of eligible income that is taxed for fica. right now it's about one 68,000. i think we can restart and do it over the course of time. my right-wing friends say that is a tax increase. my left-wing friends say it is cutt

we signed onto the lankford bill which, of course, on the angle you saw we completely exposed it for fraud that was. bret pointed out that under that bill still 1.8 million migrants could be waived into the country. you wouldn't have to declare an emergency unless it was 1.8 million people who had crossed in. so it wasn't really a border bill. it was an immigration bill. but she can't really speak to the details, despite the fact that, again, she is the border czar. and, again. she points herself into this same radical direction that she was in back in 2019 where people saw her back then as a true radical. she is still a true radical. that's why she refuses to renounce her policies. >> bret: immigration, you supported allowing immigrants into the country illegally to apply for drivers licenses, to qualify for free tuition at universities. to be enrolled in free healthcare. do you still support those things? >> listen, that was five years ago. and i'm very clear that i will follow the law. i make that statement over and over again and as vice president of the united states, that's exa

was a bad bill and at the end of the day the democrats like to say republicans crafted it james lankfordhe had all the stuff that he could have said but he did i felt that there was missed opportunities but that was just me, are you surprised that these polls are so tight given the fact that it's a trump side that is communicative in their policy plans and yet she's able to garner a lot of support even with very little information with what she plans to do. >> it's amazing that most of the country in the academy on the direction so close but they are so close no one can tell you what is going to win this race today. >> final word. >> were saying the same thing and trump with a quick advantage as we moved out in the newer policies getting stronger. maria: we will leave it there robert cahaly and mark penn, thank you we'll be right back. when you're in the military you're really close with your brothers and your sisters that are in the military with you. and when you get out of the military, you kind of lose that until you find a new family. we can talk about our struggles and the things t

people understand that donald trump was the one that torpedoed the bipartisan border deal that james lankford of the most conservative senators was a cosponsor and authored it. but that will be a soft spot. what she did manage to do that i think is really good is to talk about this new agenda that they have for black men. so to talk about entrepreneurship and economic opportunity is, she will talk about specific health care needs that affect the black community more specifically and i see no reason, understand that people want to put this in the it's just identity politics and that's ridiculous. identity politics is implicit in good campaigning. when you're talking to a group that has a certain set of concerns you need to be able to address the way that their lives are, what their job looks like and family life looks like. what their medical life looks like. and on the same day as she put out the agenda for black men, she also put out the agenda for rural america. like farmers, ranchers -- >> jesse: do they get free weed too? >> jessica: it is not free weed. they will get legal weed, which is

james lankford in oklahoma, the border patrokforl agents and "the wall street journal," the chamber ofed the legislation. you have to havelegi congress to authorize 1500 border agents. you have to speed adjudications on asylum claims. that is what kamala harris is talking about. >> governor, baptiste -- >> trey: i have three quickairm questions for you chairman. if the border was secure why did they need senate border bill and if the border was not secure, why did they wait three and half years to propose it. and can they name a single american that would be alive had this bill passed? >> all good questions, but you are exactly right. this was deliberate,ght attentional, premeditated done on day one no more remain on mexico and no more building the wall.buildi when you get to the border, you will not be retained but released. 10million illegal migrants unde the biden-harris regime.n he 99 on terrorist watch list andun thousands have convicted -- i mean thousands of criminals have come in and they lost track of 300,000 kids. if that is a secure border, i guess we are all crazy than. we

senator lankford, it. we could come together and solve this. if we didn't let donald trump continue to make it an issue and the consequences in springfield were the governor had to send state law enforcement escort kindergartners to school. i believe senator advancements to solve this. but by standing with donald trump and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a talking point. and when it becomes a talking point like this, we did human ice philonise other human beings. to tim governor to governor, your time is up. senator, i'll give you one minute. but let me just >> ask you the question. first, the governor has made the point. and i think as a sitting lawmaker, you know, that congress controls the purse strings and any funding. so you have said repeatedly that donald trump would through executive action solve do you disagree? that congress controls the purse strings and would need to support many of the changes that you would actually want to implement. you have one minute of murder. first of all, the gross majority of what we ne

james lankford, the author of the bill, a friend of mine, i spend a lot of time talking with him.t was not going to solve the border crisis. it was going to codify the border crisis. it was going to continue to allow the flood of illegal immigrants into this country that was unleashed by the border czar, kamala harris, and joe biden. i ask the listeners to understand the deception that senator mannion is making and the misrepresentations he is making about these issues. that is not how this came about and that is not how our government works. >> senator mannion, did you want a quick word? sen. mannion: there is one reason our immigration system remains broken. it was directed by donald trump to members of the house of representatives to make sure the bill never made it over because he did not want anyone to get a political win. it is that kind of politics that the people of central new york reject. it is that type of language that you continue to hear out of my opponent's mouth that is divisive, toxic, degrading, trying to tear things down. he is not the candidate of addition. he

it'd been negotiated by when most conservative senators in the senate, lankford. also arizona's own independent senator houston sinema and a democrat. this was a bill that would have pushed us forward in a really significant way on an issue we know has been very divisive. it is been very divisive nationally and here in arizona. when you talk about things like trade, that is so important. mexico is our biggest trading partner. but when i talk to people here in our community they all say southern arizona is given a bad rap because of the border. you had a chance to embrace a bipartisan deal that would have made significant step forward sd and you rejected it. and you rejected it because of president trump telling you and your caucus to do so. and the deal then fell apart. we need to elect people that will embrace solutions and no longer this politics. we keep on electing people to go down to the border, take a photo ops but are not willing to do the job in cdc of actually solving the border crisis. that is what i will do. that's what i didn't arizona legislature as

it's an award with citizens for responsible budget, people as conservative as mike braun and james lankford and is liberal sheldon whitehouse and jeanne shaheen. it doesn't go to a lot of us but because we are willing to have this discussion. the rich tradition of being demagogue and somehow save kramer and their republicans will drive us over a cliff. we can get this done but we have to put every thing on the table. she's guinness and cutting benefits. here's what i suggest. take a serious look at the retirement age right now it takes from ih their people with a lower number than this but 67 years of age those benefits. i say let's look at 10 years out from now let's start adding to be one month a year for six years. that would provide i'd say it recognizes longevity of life. look at raising the cap of eligible income that is taxed. right now it's about -- i think we could raise that over the course of time. my friends say that's it tax increase, my left-wing friends say that would cut benefits. >> i think one of the things that i think about when i think about social security is this wido

theye senator lankford. well, that is a massive failure. that's the same senator, by the way, who is now complaining about the rest of the siv on a plot to create -- he used terrorism on election day. that's not bipartisan. it was just bad. but he's way out of time. the democrats need to do this for the next 21 days, which is lie to you about the actual circumstance and facts and hoping enough people buy it. >> kayleigh: and they stayed immigrant with a came in -- it doesn't make much of a difference. humanitarian parole would be entering legally, but he should have been vetted. he was not. emily, laken riley's killer, i don't even want to say his name, but i do want to pull at his record, because bill clinton does indeed write that he should have been vetted. he became demott came illegally into the country in september of 2022, released into the interior, then you can see in september of '23 he's arrested in new york city for acting in a manner to injure a child. see month, goes on to athens, georgia, then two months later you see he rece

now, the democratic refrain that is you could support the bipartisan lankford legislation and that sort of they're out on this. i think that's going sort of a rabbit hole for the democrats. and i have advised publicly written about this, as you know, jonathan, but they shouldn't be making that argument because. >> i think it's sort of an empty argument given that that legislation would allow two and a half million migrants per year, which is about the number of migrants that are coming in right now. and the president has the inherent authority as commander in chief to shut the borders down. a supreme court has has has affirmed that. so i think that is i think that is a mistake for democrats. i think the big question on this debate now, jonathan, is the consensus will be that i think j.d. vance won. you know significantly not a slam dunk, but he won the debate. i think the consensus is that donald trump lost the debate a month ago. >> and the question is, will donald trump let this debate, j.d. vance won be the last word or will his sort of ego get the better of him and make him want to

simply we have a policy james lankford in oklahoma give have congress operated move border agents this thanks it woud actually work donald trump told us for four years mexico did not pay for. this is a real bill of experts and start to tackle the issue. want to resort to demonizing people or chew making up or crafting stories of senator vance said he did. those things were not happening in springfield. doesn't mean we can't pass a piece of legislation to strengthen our border. that's what kamala harris' talking about. shannon: that piece of legislation includes a wall you guys have been so disparaged that. the vice president has as well but i don't she really intends to move forward with that? it was negotiable through four senators. many republicans came out against it. long before president trump indicated he did not like it either but listen before we go i wish we had a full hour, went to give you a chance you called yourself a knucklehead this week, to talk about some of your misstatements. you modified your story or explained you misspoke about things involving your military rank,

senator lankford dented. we could come together and solve this.idn't let donald trump continue to make it an issue. the consequences in springfield where the governor had to send state law enforcement to escort kindergartners to school. i believe senator vance wants to solve this but by standing with donald trump and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a talking point. when it becomes a talking point like this, we dehumanize and villainize other human beings. >> margaret: senator, i will give you one minute. let me ask you the question first. the governor has made the point and i think as a sitting lawmaker, you know that congress controls the purse strings and funding. you have said repeatedly that donald trump would through executive action solve this. do you disagree that congress controls the purse strings and would need to support many of the changes that you would actually want to implement? you have one minute. >> senator vance: the gross majority of what we need to do is empowering law enforcement to do their job. i've been

it was crafted by a conservative senator from oklahoma, james lankford. i know him. he's super conservative, but he's a man of principle. he wants to get it done. democrats and republicans worked on this piece of legislation, the border patrol said, this is what we need in here. these are the experts and the chamber of commerce and the wall street journal said, pass this thing, kamala harris helped get there. 1500 new border agents detection for drugs, doj money to speed up these. the adjudications on this just what america wants. but as soon as i was getting ready to pass and actually tackle this donald no, told them to vote against it because it gives him a campaign issue. it gives him what would donald trump talk about if we actually did some of these things? and they need to be done by the legislature. you can't just do this through the executive branch so look, we have the options to do this donald trump had four years. he had four years to do this. and he promised you america, how easy it would be i'll build you a big, beautiful wall and mexico will pay for it

the assistance that we would received in that bipartisan legislation that senator sinema senator lankford others worked so hard on so that's exactly everyone's right the border is a crucial issue and especially in places like arizona, kamala harris has to explain why donald trump deserves the blame for that. >> all right. well, i appreciate your time, mayor giles, and thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> next, the cnn exclusive with our david culver. he goes to great lengths to see the majestic pandas somewhere most of us never will get to see. and that is in the wild as the u.s. today welcomes back to the national zoo, two giant pandas for our new class pet. we have a special guests, cnn's harry enten well, folks, we got a race to the ages here with nibbles, the hamster jumping out to a ten point advantage over joe just a goldfish big brand recognition, but it isn't translating in a boat so what the heck is going on in here when can be done pilk and so sorry, it's a decent assessment friday. certainly. are you foreign prince certain? >> we are for him front certainty matter

would have been in the bipartisan border bill that oklahoma conservative republican senator james lankford tried to get through last year. it it failed because the former president said, no, we're not going to i have a success or progress on immigration before the election. so this is at the root of all of this immigration discussion. i was in arizona last week. it is absolutely a critical issue. border security and critical issue, but the voters i talked to both sides actually want solutions and there is very little in the former president's over remarks that were solutions oriented to put it charitably. >> jeff zeleny. thank you so much for that update. let's expand the conversation now with republican strategist and cnn political commentator shermichael singleton and cnn political commentator and former democratic south carolina state representative bakari sellers. thank you both for being with us. bakari, i want to start with you because in light of harris releasing this opportunity agenda targeting black men, a new york times-sienna college poll released this weekend shows that trump

that that senator sinema and senator lankford and others worked so hard on that's exactly everyone's right. the border is a crucial issue and especially in places like arizona, kamala harris has to explain why donald trump deserves the blame for that. >> all right. well, i appreciate your time, mayor giles and thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. >> and next a cnn exclusive with our david culver. he goes to great lengths to see the majestic pandas somewhere most of us never will get to see and that is in the wild as the u.s. today welcomes back to the national zoo to giant pandas my patients on a statin to reduce cholesterol, i also tell them it can deplete their coke. you ten levels. i recommend to you taking qn all koch uten q and all has three times better absorption than regular quote putin, kunal, the brand i trust with the family pairing tool. >> it's easy to make sure what my teens are watching on their tiktok. is safe and age appropriate? >> great john, select family movie night, no. >> family pairing on tiktok subway is making foot-long snack in history first epic

that there was a border security bill that had buy-in from conservative republicans like senator lankford from oklahoma and that trump shanked it. is that enough? do you think well, look, i think she has also talked about being solutions oriented and the fact that trump is using it as a talking point. >> she has talked about the fact that you would sign the bill, that was shanked to put it that way. but also comprehensive immigration reform earlier in the day, they also reminded people of what it was like when we were separating children from their families. she is obviously not interested in doing that and she's also talked about what is one of the most complicating issues which is mixed status families, which is a real problem. so when trump talks about mass deportation so you're going to take mothers away from their kids again how is that going to work? so i actually think she has given substance, but it was hard in that environment because brett was like pushing and he wanted to you don't get her to say she apologized to the people immigrants tend to commit crimes at much lower rates

senator lankford did it. we could come together and solve this if we didn't let donald trump continue to make it an issue. the consequences in springfield were, the governor had to send state law enforcement to escort kindergartners to school. i believe senator vance wants to solve this, but by standing with donald trump, and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a talking point. and when it becomes a talking point like this, we dehumanize and villainize other human beings. >> governor, your time is up. senator, i'll give you one minute. let me just ask you the question first, the governor has made the point, and i think as a sitting lawmaker, you know that congress controls the purse strings of any funding. so you have said repeatedly that donald trump would, through executive action, solve this. do you disagree that congress controls the purse strings and would need to support many of the changes that you would actually want to implement? you have one minute. >> first of all, the gross majorit

would argue conservatives that a centrist position, it's a concern derivative position, it's the lankford bill on immigration, on border security. so this is all related to how this explosion of later generation latinos that change in from latinos being largely a migrant or immigrant centered voting bloc 20 years ago to now we're 80% of new latino registered voters are us born this us born latino does not feel that trump is talking to them when he's talking about building a wall or deports or mass deportations in fact, there's very strong growing sentiment that they are in support of these positions this is the time paula just pointed out. but i also do want to bring bring up one other point and that is this is not new in our community it's certainly growing a sentiment, but there's always ban at least a third of our, of our community, regardless of degree of generation removed from the immigrant experience that has supported the stronger border security plans. and it's why i think democrats are really struggling with the issue right now because that's never been the orthodoxy, at least n

we republican senator lankford, when most conservative senators in the senate lead bipartisan negotiationsths, they actually reached an agreement and one person stopped. it, one, and that was donald trump because he didn't want to win. and quite frankly, we came the closest we had in decades between republican presidents and democratic presidents in passing comprehensive immigration reform, we need it. there's a needed in this country for workers that are matt by could be met by immigrants coming in here we've always been a country when someone is escaping violence, especially women and others have a place, but people, we need a legal immigration system that it's working instead of republicans getting up in just spilling vile, we need to actually do something in an act. we came the closest. we did this year. one person stopped it. and since that person stopped it, i don't have a great deal of faith that we're he president, that he'd really do something to solve it congresswoman, let me ask you. >> we just marked the anniversary of october 7, the attacks against israel by hamas, and we hear

that's why no matter how -- you know, you've got to feel bad for senator lankford, but no matter howour article "the moment of truth." washington's nightmare. >> george washington sets the standard. this is about washington setting the standards for presidents and every president after him at least tries to measure up, tries to measure on that yardstick of character, some of them failed, andrew jackson, james buchanan, but washington warned us that there could come a person who -- and to use his words -- would gain power on the ruins of public liberty. trump is the man he watched us about. washington's example, i think people don't really know washington. he's sort of distant from us. he is this big oblisque on the mall. they offered him -- he left politics, he comes back in, they want him to stay as president, finally after two terms he says i'm going home. all during the time he was president he said i just want -- i don't want to be president, i want to get out of this. he literally -- he is the only president who ever led troops in the field while a sitting president. mounts up a

senator lankford said we can do it. and the consequences were the governor had to send state law enforcement to escort kinder garth nears to school. by standing with donald trump and not working together to find a solution it becomes a talking point and when it becomes a talking point we demonize other human beings. margaret: let me ask you the question first, the governor has made the point and as a sitting lawmaker congress controls the purse strings and so you have said repeatedly that donald trump would through executive action solve this. do you disagree that congress controls the purse strings and would need to support many of the changes that you would want to implement. you have one minute. sen. vance: the majority we have to do is empowering law enforcement. i have been to the southern border more than border czar harris. they want to be empowered to do their job. but most of this is about the president and vice president empowering our law enforcement to say if you try to come across the border illegally, you

senator lankford did it.he consequences in springfield were, the governor had to send state law enforcement to escort kindergartners to school. i believe senator vance want to solve this. by standing with donald trump and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a prop -- a talking point. when he becomes a talking point like this, we villain eyes other human beings. >> your time is up. i will give you one minute. let me just ask you the question first. the governor has made the point and i think as a sitting lawmaker, you know that congress controls the purse springs. you have said repeatedly that donald trump would through executive action solve this. do you disagree that congress controls with -- the pursestrings and would need to support many of the changes that you would actually want to implement? you have one minute. >> we need to just empower law enforcement to do their job. i've been to the southern border more than kamala harris has been. it's heart breaking. the border patrol agent's just

senator lankford did it. consequences in springfield were, the governor had to send state law enforcement to escort kindergartners to school. i believe senator vance want to solve this. by standing with donald trump and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a prop -- a talking point. when he becomes a talking point like this, we villain eyes other human beings. >> your time is up. i will give you one minute. let me just ask you the question first. the governor has made the point and i think as a sitting lawmaker, you know that congress controls the purse springs. you have said repeatedly that donald trump would through executive action solve this. do you disagree that congress controls with -- the pursestrings and would need to support many of the changes that you would actually want to implement? you have one minute. >> we need to just empower law enforcement to do their job. i've been to the southern border more than kamala harris has been. it's heart breaking. the border patrol agent's just w

and ted kennedy, not exactly like kindred spirits on policy or even now kyrsten sinema and james lankfordhn mccain and ted kennedy. every time even though it 78 or 80 votes are the united states senate conservatives did not just want to do anything to allow for a legal process to be established for the workforce we depend on in washington particularly in central washington. i do support and immigration policy that will allow us to bring people from mexico who want to live here and return to mexico. i'll do everything we can to continue to fight and getting gg appropriations for the border. >> thank you, senator. dr. garcia shipped 30 seconds to respond. >> i also want to talk about certain topics of immigration we may not come back too you. i am all in favor of the dreamers, the docket kids across the board not having 18 years of age to begin citizenship yesterday. okay? to the other people that have been four years and have paid taxes. and have been reputable people i iwill give permanent residency too. but, if you come to this country to commit crime you are out. >> thank you dr. garcia

immigration, that this nation has seen, it was crafted by conservative senator from oklahoma, james lankfordknow him. democrat from republicans worked on this. the border patrol said this is what we need. these are experts, and chamber of commerce and "wall street journal" said pass it. kamala harris helped get there, 1500 new border agents, detection for drugs. just what america wants but as soon as that was ready to pass. donald trump said no. told them to vote against it, because it gives him a campaign issue. it gives him, what would donald trump talk about if we did some of these. they need to be done. by the legislature, you can't just do this with executive branch, we have options, donald trump had 4 years, he had 4 years to do this, he promised you how easy it would be, i will build you a big beautiful wall, and mexico will pay for it less than 2% of that wall of the built and mexico it not pay a dime, 9 years after he came down, dehumanizing people, and telling them what he would do, as far as departing at one point, senator vance said it was so unworkable to be laugh able. that is