lankford: if china receives that, they are receiving the wrong message. we want to see peace in that region and continue to have relationships all across that region. china should not miss read this at all. what president trump is trying to do is get both sides to the table. this is the interesting challenge that has not been done through this entire war the last three years trying to get both sides to figure out how to get a stop to the fighting and keep the fighting stopped. that is the next challenge. host: senator james lankford. the senate is in today at 3:00 p.m. eastern. the house returns at noon. we are expecting a busy week here on capitol hill including a joint address to congress and the american people by president trump from the house of representatives. it is what in other years would be called a state of the union address. simply referred to as a joint address in the president's first year after an election. that is on tuesday night. we will cover it here on c-span. 7:30, asking this question, what is america's role in the world. what do yo

joining me now is republican senator james lankford of oklahoma.elcome back to "meet the press "qwest. >> thanks. good to see you again. >> great to see you. you have been a longtime supporter of defending ukraine. in fact, in 2022 you co-sponsored legislation that called for the u.s. to protect ukraine, quote, before, during and after the invasion. based on what you witnessed in the oval office, senator, are you concerned that the united states is turning its back on ukraine? >> no. we're not turning our back on ukraine nor should we. putin is a murderous kgb thug that murders his political enemies and is a dictator there, and so we've seen this. we've seen his aggression. countries around him have seen this. obviously the ukrainian people have seen that. the challenge is now we are at a stalemate and this is a world war i-like trench warfare and it is good to be at least a pause and when i hear president trump saying over and over and say we need to get to a stop in fighting and find a resolution. zelenskyy is rightfully concerned that putin has

let me take you back to the question i asked senator lankford. millions of americans looking at their 401(k)s and chewing on their nails. people are very concerned. you have said that you think that the tariffs are a negotiating tactic. well, they're actually real right now. so what are you advising clients? >> well, there are a number of things, liz. i think, first of all, the thing we should all be really clear about is markets hate trying to figure if out how politicians are navigating any particular situation. and can tariffs are that on steroids to. now, when we think about a negotiating tactic, it doesn't peen the tariffs don't go into effect, but the situation with canada and mexico is about a gaining concessions. with china it is very deferent because of the national security issues and and -- different, and, yes, we're going to have a little bumpiness in markets. it is unusual because last year we had the s&p up 25. it was -- it had very little volatility. liz: double digits two years in a row. can i just say, the s&p turned positive. [l

it last time. >> i think lankford deal that deal gives a level of permanent security.f the things that you're going to find is that we don't even have if you see additional immigration rates, we don't even have the room to house these individuals. again, one of the reasons why i still think the long term, you got to have a legislative solution here. >> because when the new president comes in, you want some status quo, you want there to be a baseline. that's what legislation does. he said. >> he wants to screw. he wants to basically bring chaos. you got to give him credit for bringing chaos. that is not good for america. it's not good for american families. it's not good for america's standing in the world. and we all got to step up and fight back. >> senator warner, really good to have you. thank you for joining us today. >> thank you. >> coming up next, the reaction to the president's speech from federal workers who are facing, let's call it, an uncertain future because of doge, doge, and later, new hopes for a minerals deal between the u.s. and ukraine activates your

lankford. mr. lee. mr. lujan. ms. lummis. mr. markey. mr. marshall. mr. mcconnell. mr. mccormick. merkley. mrs. moody. mr. moran. mr. moreno. mr. mullin. ms. murkowski. mr. murphy. mrs. murray. mr. ossoff. mr. padilla. mr. paul. mr. peters. mr. reed. mr. ricketts. mr. risch. ms. rosen. mr. rounds. mr. sanders. mr. schatz. mr. schiff. mr. schmitt. mr. schumer. is a mr. scott of florida. mr. scott of south carolina. mrs. shaheen. mr. sheehy. ms. slotkin. ms. smith. mr. sullivan. mr. thune. mr. tillis. mr. tuberville. mr. van hollen. mr. warner. mr. warnock. ms. warren. mr. welch. mr. whitehouse. mr. wicker. mr. wyden. mr. young. vote: the clerk: senators voting in the affirmative -- barrasso, blackburn, boozman, britt, cornyn, cotton, cramer, crapo, daines, grassley, hyde-smith, justice, lankford, marshall, moody, murkowski, paul, ricketts, scott of florida, scott of south carolina, sheehy, tillis. senators voting in the negative -- duckworth, kaine, merkley, rosen, shaheen, van hollen, wyden. mr. peters, no. mr. husted, aye. mr. mullin, aye. mr. gallego, no. mr. kim, no. mr. warner

and you just saw senator lankford and senator and congressman bacon. they need some of their colleagues to stand up. those that have pledged and have said all along that they were with ukraine, they will stay with ukraine. they need more of their voices from congress to tell the president that he should not be turning his back on ukraine and our allies, in fact, treating our allies as if they're adversaries and our adversaries are if they are allies. that must be happening now. it must happen. and number two, you know, you can't say that we're going into negotiations when what president trump does is to go to negotiate with vladimir putin without ukraine. and, you know, and then just say, that's what's going to happen. and then put all the pressure on ukraine, basically not asking them for a peace deal. basically, what you're doing is asking them to surrender because russia and vladimir putin gets everything that they want. and the illegal taking and the killing of the people of, of ukraine goes unchecked. that can't happen. and so we need the pressure

lankford: if china receives that, they are receiving the wrong message.e want to see peace in that region and continue to have relationships all across that region. china should not miss read this at all. what president trump is trying to do is get both sides to the table. this is the interesting challenge that has not been done through this entire war the last three years trying to get both sides to figure out how to get a stop to the fighting and keep the fighting stopped. that is the next challenge. host: senator james lankford. the senate is in today at 3:00 p.m. eastern. the house returns at noon. we are expecting a busy week here on capitol hill including a joint address to congress and the american people by president trump from the house of representatives. it is what in other years would be called a state of the union address. simply referred to as a joint address in the president's first year after an election. that is on tuesday night. we will cover it here on c-span. 7:30, asking this question, what is america's role in the world. what do you

sorry, lankford. lawler, i do appreciate your time. we'll see what he has to say about all this tonight. if we do move forward on where those tariffs are going over these next 12 hours. thank you i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> and next, kim jong un's sister warning the u.s. they're ready to use nuclear force. as a new report claims north korea could have an alarming number of nuclear weapons in just years, passing the uk. plus, elon musk always by trump's side, it seems, and he will be there tonight, which is having a devastating effect on his support among a key group of americans. and harry enten will tell us something about them that we don't know. >> have i got news for you is back now. i love the games we've been playing about the news of the week. >> but it might be time to come up with some. >> new games. >> yes. >> what do. >> you got? >> yes, something like a. >> uh. >> oh. >> what if, what if. >> no. but. >> um. >> y'all good with just playing the same games? >> let's say. >> the same games. >> that's a good idea. >

senator lankford may be right, who knows we will end up. getting north korea on his side bringing in soldiers. so, we are talking about speculation what could be a diplomatic resolution. but the way president trump is talking about it, ukraine is not even at the table. that he convened a meeting with russia and excluded ukraine from that meeting. so, that does not suggest to me that they are serious negotiation. that suggests to meet the president has made a decision. make a europe would be the ones who do not us. but europe is saying they cannot do without us and making it clear to putin he's got largely with what the unites hits of unf america will do. jon: list turn our attention to tthe arcthat are transient units in the tariffs are supposed to kick in on tuesday with mexico and canada as well. those 2 countries did offer some carrots i guess when the tariff deadline was coming up a month ago. do you see any more forthcoming from them before tuesday? >> i do have a clue's going on in the negotiations. what i do know it's going to hammer

lankford: we don't mind allocating the dollars as long as they are spent wisely so the american people can say that's where my tax dollars are going. hsi, dea and fbi, they are a challenge at times to be able to cooperate together on it and keep from mission creep. your oversight in this process with the coast guard, over fema, secret service, there is a lot of tasks that are out there. what needs to be done in your view at this point to make sure we are on mission and that we are working with other agencies to make sure secret service is doing what it can do well in knocking into other areas, hsi doing what it can do well and not getting into dea areas. mr. edgar: he greeted the executive order the greater the home and secured a task force. we follow the leadership of secretary noem in lead with the department of justice that you're talking about and within hsi, er of, ice will have the whole of government that will bring to them that task force they will take on cross government type of activity not only just being able to do border security but bring the full power of enforcement ou

press," when kristen is joined by house speaker mike johnson, along with bernie sanders and james lankfordand nbc news will have complete coverage of president trump's address to a joint session of congress on tuesday night. that beginning at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on nbc and streaming on news now. >>> this morning, israel is blocking aid into gaza and saying it will not resume if hamas does not accept its proposal to extend the current cease-fire. negotiations between what comes next between the two sides has stalled in the last few weeks. israel warning hamas there will be additional consequences if the militant group refuses to work out a new deal to extend the cease-fire. >>> hopeful news from the vatican this morning where officials say pope francis had a peaceful night. the pope suffered a health setback on friday when he had trouble breathing and had to be put a vent lilator. he has improved but the vatican reports his prognosis remains guarded. in the angelless prayer, that he wrote in the hospital, he thanked the faithful for their prayers. >>> former new york governor andre

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brutal dictatorship and oklahoma senator james lankford responded to calls from some in his own party for zelensky to step down for frank. i think that would spiral ukraine into chaos right now before that meetings, abrupt and president trump and president zelensky were supposed to sign a minerals deal. >> that president trump says would have helped repay the u.s. for its support for ukraine and also moved russia and ukraine closer toward a peace deal. now president zelenskyy says he's still willing to sign that deal in washington. i'm today some lot back to you. >> the u.s. could to support ukraine and even from the geopolitical considerations makes a lot of sense for the u.s. to support ukraine. so the hope that this message comes and you hope the united states government makes decisions accordingly. notice representative from bay area nonprofit noble ukraine says people in the ukrainian community are feeling. >> anxious after satter, friday's heated meeting there in the oval office and as we just said, peace talks imploded between the president and now the future of u.s. support fo

brutal dictatorship and oklahoma senator james lankford responded to calls from some in his own party for zelenskyy to step down for frank. i think that would spiral ukraine into chaos right now before that meetings, abrupt and president trump and president zelensky were supposed to sign a minerals deal. >> that president trump says would have helped repay the u.s. for its support for ukraine and also moved russia and ukraine closer toward a peace deal. now president zelenskyy says he's still willing to sign that deal in washington. i'm today some lot back to you. >> the u.s. could to support ukraine and even from the geopolitical considerations. it makes a lot of sense for the u.s. to support ukraine. so the hope that this message comes through and you hope the united states government makes decisions according the bay area, nonprofit nova ukraine says that people in the ukrainian community are feeling anxious. now. >> ever since friday's heated exchange in the oval office, peace talks imploded, as we just showed you, president trump and vice president jd vance clashing with volodymy

exclusive interviews, as mentioned with house speaker mike johnson, oklahoma republican senator james lankford, and as mentioned, independent vermont senator bernie sanders. if you just stick right here with us for today in the bay. meet the press is on at 8 a.m. right after this newscast. and coming up this week, as mentioned on tuesday, be sure to join nbc news for special coverage of president donald trump's first joint address to congress. coverage begins at 6 p.m. right here on nbc bay area. and as always, we will talk to nbc bay area political analyst larry gerston for our weekly segment. we'll take a look at the u.s. ukrainian relationship and what that explosive meeting with president trump, vice president and ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky means for peace talks. history was made while we were sleeping early this morning. robotic lander blue ghost touched down on the lunar surface. it's only the second privately built spacecraft to successfully land on the moon. blue ghost was created by texas based firefly aerospace. that's video of the landing happened around 1 a.m. this morn

lankford, the senator from west virginia, mrs. capito, the senator from south carolina, mr.ott, the senator from new york, mr. schumer, the senator from illinois, mr. durbin, the senator from minnesota, ms. klobuchar, the senator from new jersey, mr. booker, the senator from wisconsin. speaker johnson: the members of the escort committee will exit the chamber through the lobby doors. >> mr. speaker, the dean of the diplomatic corps. [indistinct conversations] peter: we are about 5, 10 minutes away from the president entering the chamber and beginning his speech. jasmine wright, jason dick, we've been watching this, chatting amongst ourselves. is there anything we can share that we were talking about? jasmine: one thing i'm noticing is the difference between the way that former vice president harris and speaker mike johnson were talking last year versus now. it is so much more jovial with vice president vance and speaker johnson that it was. it is so much more sort of homeboy these people know each other, they are on the same side. it is interesting to watch the differences o

how about those republicans like james lankford? how about those republicans like mitch mcconnell? i guess the former lindsey graham, who were supportive of ukraine's efforts to beat back the russian invasion. how will they feel tomorrow night if we see more of the oval office friday version of president trump in this address to congress? >> well, i think it's absurd to say that we are abandoning an ally after what occurred on friday in the oval office. if we were abandoning allies, the president of the united states would not have met with the president of france, the prime minister of the united kingdom, and the president of ukraine in the span of just a couple of days at the white house, he hosted all of them. he would not have sat next to the president of ukraine in the oval office, which clearly and obviously annoyed vladimir putin. he wouldn't have had a deal literally on the table in the east room, ready to be signed. that also annoyed vladimir putin. so to think that we're abandoning an ally, i think is farcical, and i'm sure we're all going to be watching and listening ver

you saw senator lankford. say that a forced, uh, you know. >> a push to. >> force out. >> zelenskyy, which is. >> what. >> you're beginning to see the. >> trump administration play with, could create chaos in europe. >> so if if ukraine does become an issue that divides. >> republicans, you can understand. >> why democrats would. >> want to get out of the way. but on the. >> other hand, when you're looking at. >> tariffs, you're. >> looking at doge. >> these mass firings, many americans do want to see. >> some leadership from democrats, sort of a. >> counterpoint to. >> the trump. administration's point. so how they articulate. >> that and. >> who articulates it? >> you know, i think. >> we're going to. >> see and the tone that. >> trump sets in those remarks on tuesday may set the pace for the democrats. >> responses. >> and what about how trump articulates his plans on the economy? i mean, obviously, there are clearly pressing foreign policy issues at the moment, ukraine being just one of them. but for a lot

then you also heard some more nuanced takes from other republicans like this, from senator james lankford. take a listen. >> no, we're not turning. >> our back. >> on ukraine, nor should we. putin is a murderous kgb thug that murders his political enemies and is a dictator there. and so we've seen that. we've seen his aggression. countries around him have seen that. obviously, the ukrainian people have seen that. larry snelling. >> and now kate, of course, this also comes as there are questions about how does the white house and the trump administration move forward as it relates to seeking a peace deal with ukraine and russia? but also just to go back to the speech, just very quickly, we do have new cnn polling that i think is striking to keep in mind through all of this. we saw that right now, the president's approval rating is 48% of americans approve of his performance, 52% disapprove. notable, though, that this poll was taken before that oval office meeting on friday. so, again, all, you know, kind of that context as he heads into that speech tomorrow. >> absolutely. good to see you,

. >> republican senator james lankford defended zelensky. so from a diplomatic perspective, how do you view domestic lawmakers openly debating whether zelensky should continue to lead his country after clashing with president trump? >> it's outrageous. it's absolutely outrageous. the arrogance of the speaker to say that the democratically elected leader of ukraine fighting for his existence, for his country should resign. it's absolutely outrageous. it does no good. it doesn't help any national interest of the united states. i want to keep coming back to this. what is good for american national security. leave the ukrainians aside. this is no good for our american national security. and it's exactly what putin has been wanting since he invaded ukraine. so what team are we on? have we switched to the russian side? because i don't think the american people want to go along with president trump and the speaker to end up on the russian side, the side of dictatorship against democracy. 81% of the american people don't trust putin. and i think the

lankford the senator from west virginia mrs. capito. the senator from south carolina mr. scott. the senator from new york, mr. schumer. the senator from illinois, mr. durbin. the center for minnesota, ms. klobuchar. the senator from new jersey, mr. the senator from wisconsin ms. baldwin. the members of the escort committee will exit the chamber through the lobby doors. [inaudible conversations] mr. speaker the dean of the diplomatic. [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> mr. speaker associate justices of the united states supreme court. [applause] [applause] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] mr. speaker of the president's cabinet [applause] [inaudible background conversations] [inaudible background conversations] [inaudible background conversations] >> mr. speaker, the president of united states. [applause] [applause] [applause] [chanting usa] [cheering] >> thank you. thank you very much. it's a great hono

at the same time, gop senator james lankford of oklahoma defended president zelenskyy during an intervieway on meet the press. >> no. >> we're not turning our back. >> on ukraine, nor. >> should we. putin is a murderous kgb thug that murders his political enemies and is a dictator there. and so we've seen that. we've seen his aggression. countries around him have seen that. what i hear president trump saying. >> over and over. >> again is we need to get to a stop in fighting, find some resolution. i understand zelensky is rightfully concerned that putin has violated every single agreement he's ever signed, and that he can't be trusted. i think they understand each other and that obviously there are differences where zelensky wants more in the way of some kind of security guarantees. the united states is not willing to be able to put troops on the ground. >> joining us now. >> retired cia. >> officer marc polymeropoulos, he's an nbc news security and intelligence analyst. we just ran through a lot of reaction, including vice president mike pence, who we didn't mention there, putting an op

same thing with james lankford in the senate.an earlier guest had said that ted cruz even came out and called putin what he was a dictator. so you you have republicans, some republicans still speaking out, speaking strongly. but we certainly didn't see that from the administration. and marco rubio, could. god. so this is what you say, david remnick, you said, is this really what trump supporters voted for? how does the decimation of american values, institutions and commitments bring down the price of eggs to minimize the unending fuselage of trump's first weeks in office? to choose to turn away is to indulge in self soothing. >> yeah, it's beautifully said. >> yeah, it really is. >> if you say so yourself. you know, i would say this, that in the course of an afternoon we had a televised version of us losing from the oval office, our strategic bearings and our moral bearings. and if this is carried out to its logical conclusion, which dmitry peskov, putin's longtime spokesman, seems to think it is that we will adopt, russia's vie

and that moment from last year with senator james lankford, where where he agreed with president bidenas he described that bipartisan deal that was sunk by trump. those are the moments that also can stand out on a night like this. >> let's check in with dana bash, who's inside the capitol. i think still in the statuary hall. >> dana. >> yes. and, jake, one of the things that i think you you all saw as the senators were walking over, as is the tradition from the senate all the way across the capitol into the house chamber. it really did feel like there were fewer senators. and the reason is because there are because a number of democrats have made the decision to boycott tonight. we know that senator chris murphy, for example, i was discussing this with cory booker earlier. he said that tonight is a farce. he's not the only one. senator patty murray, for example, of washington. she is a veteran senator. she certainly is somebody who respects the process of and of the presidency and this kind of process. she has said, i'm not going to come. and although there are. >> dean of the diplomat

. >> jim lankford, senator. >> from oklahoma, went. >> on tv yesterday and meet the press and said. >> he's a murderous thug. >> so there still are republicans that are willing to. speak out, but those who won't have. decided that they care. >> more about. >> their political skin. >> than america's values. >> i need all of you to stick around. we have to sneak in a quick break, but still ahead. for all of us, it is beginning to look like a pattern. another extraordinary move by the trump administration. as we mentioned, giving vladimir putin carte blanche to do whatever he wants when it comes to u.s. security prerogatives. the latest move we're learning about comes from pete hegseth, secretary of defense. we'll bring you that reporting and reaction from someone who once worked at the highest levels inside the pentagon, plus those. elon musk. quote unquote, savings. he's trying to brag about aren't adding up just yet. but the outrage around them is very, very real indeed, despite what he and donald trump say about them. we'll get to that. and the latest reporting on elon musk's chainsa

. >> jim lankford. >> the chairman of the. >> armed services committee that. >> has come out and.ing? >> are they are they. >> trying to gather the. >> rest of the republican party to say, we've got to stop this mess? are they. >> speaking out to the american. >> people and saying he's. >> not negotiating peace? he's negotiating a giveaway. to yes. trump is not negotiating peace. if he was negotiating peace. >> he would be requiring. >> something of russia. he's requiring nothing of russia. he just wants ukraine to give up. >> and that's what he's. >> going to call peace. and i don't know how marco rubio is going to feel about the way he's written about in history, because this will be what people will remember. not all. >> of his good work. >> as a united states senator. >> and, appelbaum, how does this end? up? >> i mean, let me just get out my crystal ball and i'll explain to you how it ends. i mean, i don't know how it ends. a lot depends on what europe does. and there are really serious conversations here. there are economic conversations. there's a there are conversations ab