>> we knew lanny brewer was operation neal involved.ew the chief of staff was. >> what was that mean, operation neal involved? they knew what was going on? >> there are direct reports, doing wiretap approval. as you know, wiretap requests are incredible detail in order to get that through a judge. the detail of that we have on very good authority was, in fact, so detailed it would be hard not to know that guns were walk, that you knew who they were walking to and in fact you knew the names of the people who were in the con doduit line. we knew lanny knew it or at least his key people. and you you have to say, okay, who was it that thought this was okay because we can't find competent, legal people who think this was okay to do. what we have is the justice department repeatedly denying that they ever let guns walked now we have proof they did let guns walk and they were concerned about it in their e-mails even after we were told they didn't let them walk. >> have you subpoenaed or asked lanny brewer to come here and of it. >> we have not

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. >> kennel on and assistant attorney general lanny brewer are both to have approved the program.ey general eric holder and president obama claim they know nothing, though some investigators believe otherwise. >> coming up we detail the newly uncovered memos that could bring eric holder's troubled tenure at the justice department to an abrupt end. xdçóÑi okçóçóxd >> today president barack obama and his attorney general have been able to avoid much of the blame for the deadly failure of the atf controversial gun running operations. new details and memos continue to emerge, the spot light of the scandal is beginning to shine on the highest els of the united states government. in fact, the chairman of the house judiciary committee, law har smith, has called on the white house to appoint a special matter. let's look how the growing political scandal has evolved in the recent months. >> the american people deserve prompt and complete answers to this operation. >> letting guns walk is not something that is acceptable. >> this is one of the most shameful moments i think in our government

, the attorney general and several top deputies including his chief of staff gary grindler and lanny brewere assistant attorney general in charge of the criminal division. this committee wants all the documents relevant to communications between those officials over "fast and furious" and also named about 13 other top officials of the justice department. so they're seeking just about any relevant communications regarding the "fast and furious" case and also want to know, want documents relating to the investigation into the murder of border patrol officer brian terri. his murder back in december is really what blew this whole thing open. some weapons from the "fast and furious" program were found nir the crime scene of that officer's murd are and they want documents relating to that investigation and documents that have to do with any communications that justice had with the white house over "fast and furious." so that is what is out now. the subpoena seeking those documents. eric hold hear said -- holder has said the justice department would comply and send all relevant documents that that

if lanny brewer knew why didn't eric holder. >> chris: one of the top aides. >> guest: he is involved and works in the same office. >> chris: holder points out that top officials briefed you in april of 2010 around the time he was first hearing of all of this. he writes and let's put it up. i am aware that chairman issa said he was not briefed on the unacceptable details of "operation fast and furious". in other words the fact they were letting the guns walked. if it is true, how do you know he was also not told? >> guest: the interesting thing he is quoting a story that he plant shopped around to the newspaper. but having said that i will answer it. we were looking into the drug problems and we asked for a briefing and we got one including kenneth nelson. >> chris: of atf? >> guest: he knew about the program but not all of the other things that he ultimately red in a sealed wire tap. and when he read the wire tap and how much he understood this was letting bad gups go to the drug cartel, he became sick to his stomach. >> chris: you are saying you were not told about "operation fast a

and if you have the chief of staff and deputy attorney general and lanny brewer who got briefed not justnce but twice on a regular basis and two dead agents, the president of the united states knew this back in march. how can can the attorney general back then in may state that he knew nothing about it until a couple of weeks ago? that does not add up. >> what does the attorney general have to do, if you're convinced that he can put this behind him, what does he have to do? >> he has to come up and say what he has said in his letters and make it clear under oath. but at the same time, i want to make sure that we are not harming any pending cases, that we are not putting fbi informants in jeopardy. and the fbi has already said that they are concerned about those kinds of things. and when i say in jeopardy, john, i mean possibly being killed. this is serious business. we have to be very careful with our words and accusing the attorney general, the highest ranking attorney in the country, calling him an accessory to murder, that's totally inappropriate to our committee and we should not be

lanny brewer is the u.s. assistant attorney general of the criminal division.e told "outfront"-- the thing is the u.s. is part of how the man got his man in the first place. equatorial guinea is africa's third largest oil producer. nearly 100% of its trade comes from selling oil. who is the biggest trading partner in this corrupt leadership? yeah, the united states of america. it's something that got us thinking, america and china are competing in this great race in africa to get access to increasingly rare commodities like oil, copper and cobalt. when i was in congo, i met a regional governor who used some of the money he got in public transparent deals from american companies to build a road to his weekend house and he bragged about driving his ferrari, the only one in the drc, on his new road to his new house. the truth is while america may dislike corrupt regimes, it will do business with them if they have something the u.s. needs. and that is the reality. >>> the shocking confession made by bernie madoff's wife, ruth. how close they came to suicide. >>> fl

lanny brewer is the u.s. assistant attorney general of the criminal division.nt"-- the thing is the u.s. is part of how the man got his money in the first place. equatorial guinea is africa's third largest oil producer. nearly 100% of its trade comes from selling oil. who is the biggest trading partner in this corrupt leadership? yeah, the united states of america. it's something that got us thinking, america and china are competing in this great race in africa to get access to increasingly rare commodities like oil, copper and cobalt. when i was in congo, i met a regional governor who used some of the money he got in public transparent deals from american companies to build a road to his weekend house and he bragged about driving his ferrari, the only one in the drc, on his new road to his new house. the truth is while america may dislike corrupt regimes, it will do business with them if they have something the u.s. needs. and that is the reality. >>> the shocking confession made by bernie madoff's wife, ruth. how close they came to suicide. >>> flu shots. a n

communications to and from eric holder and 16 of his top aides including his head of the criminal division, lanny brewer. all communication between the department of justice and the executive office of the president including his communications director at the time, eric schultz, who was tapped to handle "fast & furious" scandal. they also want to know who prepped the president for a march 22nd interview with univision. why is that important? it will tell us how much the president knew when he said this. >> first of all, i did not authorize it. eric holder, the attorney general, did not authorize it. he has been very clear that our policy is to catch gun runners and put them into jail. >> reporter: the president also said on that date that eric holder has been clear that he knew nothing about this. they want to know if the president might have been splitting hairs there. they also want to know what the department of, excuse me the state department and ambassador to mexico knew. they have said that, atf has said that they didn't telmex coexactly what was going on but maybe in broad strokes they did. we'l

for instance, all wiretaps taps are approved by the chief of the criminal division, lanny brewer.ents say the affidavits are extremely detailed explaining exactly how the operation was run. you've got questions about a ringleader. that he bought some 800 weapons worth half a million dollars on a salary of only $15,000. or how petino bought 1300 guns while on food stamps. documents show that top doj officials knew this back in march of 2010 but did nothing to stop the pair from buying hundreds more weapons. finally the subpoena will request all communication with atf agents in mexico. remember, martha, this was supposed to be a drug operation that focused on the cartels and arrest everybody top to bottom yet we never told our agents in mexico that subpoena could come as early as today or later this week. back to you. martha: very big news. william, thank you very much for reporting it for us. we'll speak with senator chuck grassley who has been involved in this from the very beginning. get his reaction to this new subpoena has come from the house. he of course is the member of the

real investigation is is soul searching at the top and particularly close to the top, where lanny brewerny other individuals knew about this program, knew it was wrong, and failed to stop it. bill: she warned yesterday not to rush to judgment. ultimately, where does this lead, do you believe, based on what you know today? >> we're so far past rushing to judgment that we're at a time where it's practically just historical. you can't go months and now a year plus past when this program should have been suggest down and pretend that we're in a hurry. where this program goes is we're going to continue to ask who knew what and when. eric holder clearly was disingenuous when he came before congress and claimed he only knew about fast & fuous, quote a. few weeks before that may ninth question. he obviously knew more, and we'd like to know when. but janet napolitano wants to be hands over her ears and eyes and pretend she's doing her job. well, she just doesn't want to know how brian terry was killed. why jaime zapata wasn't properly protected. and what weapons killed him. these are important is

it still appears fraudulent we send it to the department of justice in the criminal division, lanny brewer. they have been fabulous were king with u.s. attorneys in the gulf. they have indicted people. there've been guilty pleas. there've been convictions i believe and they think fraud is an ever-present concern. nothing will undercut the credibility of this program. >> thank you, sir. what i want to turn to in my remaining time is you may well be aware that louisiana has been the biggest oyster production state in the union. 40% of the total yield has been in louisiana. washington state is now taking this because it appears that it wasn't this bill itself but the downstreaming of freshwater that has now changed this salinization of the water in the beds which which were heretofore perfect for growing oysters. as i understand that there is a multiyear rebuilding of that. you have to recede the beds and i'm not sure if i have all the terminology correct. can you kind of walk walked through that and see where we are. we do think they're a special issues on compensation. >> there clearly are

it still appears fraudulent we send it to the department of justice in the criminal division, lanny brewer they have been fabulous were king with u.s. attorneys in the gulf. they have indicted people. there've been guilty pleas. there've been convictions i believe and they think fraud is an ever-present concern. nothing will undercut the credibility of this program. >> thank you, sir. what i want to turn to in my remaining time is you may well be aware that louisiana has been the biggest oyster production state in the union. 40% of the total yield has been in louisiana. washington state is now taking this because it appears that it wasn't this bill itself but the downstreaming of freshwater that has now changed this salinization of the water in the beds which which were heretofore perfect for growing oysters. as i understand that there is a multiyear rebuilding of that. you have to recede the beds and i'm not sure if i have all the terminology correct. can you kind of walk walked through that and see where we are. we do think they're a special issues on compensation. >> there clearly are s

it still appears fraudulent we send it to the department of justice in the criminal division, lanny brewer. they have been fabulous were king with u.s. attorneys in the gulf. they have indicted people. there've been guilty pleas. there've been convictions i believe d they think fraud is an ever-present concern. nothing will undercut the credibility of this program. >> thank you, sir. what i want to turn to in my remaining time is you may well be aware that louisiana has been the biggest oyster production state in the union. 40% of the total yield has been in louisiana. washington state is now taking this because it appears that it wasn't this bill itself but the downstreaming of freshwater that has now changed this salinization of the water in the beds which which were heretofore perfect for growing oysters. as i understand that there is a multiyear rebuilding of that. you have to recede the beds and i'm not sure if i have all the terminology correct. can you kind of walk walked through that and see where we are. we do think they're a special issues on compensation. >> there clearly are sp