right now we don't have confidence that the attorney general, lanny brewer or anybody else in this long chain of multiple abc organizations, fbi, dea, atf, can actually tell us this isn't happening and won't happen again. our obligation is to make sure they're not another brian terry murder. >> let me ask about the district. columbia. the local government you have jurisdiction over, $10 billion budget, what are the big issues for d.c. thaw focus? >> one is to get control of their own budget. right now their budget is held hostage to a relatively small amount of appropriations through congress. we need to detach that. never again should they have to wait to finalize their budget for school kids until we finish our budget, and never again if there's a delay, a so-called government shutdown, should they be on a day-to-day basis about whether kids go to school. that's the number one issue. >> what about voting rights? >> the district of columbia has and i am responsible to enforce what is there. they have a constitutional situation where they're not a state, never intended to be a state. if

. >> lanny brewer. lanny brewer. i get those two mixed up. okay. could you go back and look at the files or have someone do that and get us information with these people were part of briefings or meetings that might have related to that program wide receiver? >> we are as part of the process of responding to requests for information from the hill, we're trying to gather information from the e-mails to get a better sense of what was brief with regard to wide receiver. >> okay. one other thing, in the prepared remarks made by the attorney-general regarding the trip to mexico which he made on january 16th, he said i reiterated for the attorney general as i do now the united states is committed to addressing the flow of illegal guns into mexico and indicated deployed additional resources to arrest and prosecute violent criminals and trace firearms and tools of the trade used by criminal gangs. this indicates that gun walking might have been discussed at this meeting as well. once again, is there anything you are able to say without out for anybody's at

lannie brewer admitted wrongdoing and failure.lder corrected the record on what he knew and when he knew it. obviously, we have agents that are involved at the lowest levels. we have to look at the chain of failures. operation fast and furious should not have occur and find out why it never seemed to have happened. never let the guns walk. >> bret: you are saltsfied with the attorney general correction of the record? >> i'm not. i'm on record saying i don't have full confidence in eric holder, particularly, when he hasn't seen fit to dismiss brewer or the other individuals who knew a lot about the program and didn't stop it. we're not satisfied but at least we know that there was knowledge at the top. eric holder did not apologize to brian terry's family. under oath, he told us essentially he didn't feel that that was appropriate. and more importantly he didn't feel there was a link between the two fast and furious weapons found at brian terry's murder site. that would cause there to be a direction connection. we're not happy with

. >> attorney general eric holder and criminal division chief lannie brewer both claimed ignorance about the operation. terrys don't buy it. >> i know they're lying. i know they're lying. nothing but liars. >> tuesday, lawmakers asked if holder wanted to apologize. he declined saying. >> i certainly regret what happened. >> if he lost his son he would think different. >> holder has since said he is sorry in an e-mail to the family. while the murder weapons are linked to fast and furious he testified it didn't lead to the agent's death. >> i disagree with that. i think they are. the brand new ak-47s recovered. >> if they would have never left the guns walk, maybe brian would haven't been in the desert. >> to some officials maybe he was collateral damage. to his parents he was everything. >> you love him very much. >> they want those who knew, executed and approved fast and furious held responsible. that means filing a wrongful death claim against the government and lawsuit. i'm told it will be big. william la jeunesse, fox news. >> bret: now to subject of prevents deaths. catherine herrid

. >> lanny brewer statement said he told the attorney general in january or february so that doesn't jive. so we just got a massive con that diction here. >> the attorney general there were no chargeable offenses. the bottom line is atf and doj wanted a big case. a lot of gups and many feel they waited too long. back to you. >> we will continue to dig. no grapevine to make room for herman cain in the center seat segment. fox all-stars ask questions and i'll relay yours when we come back. in the break, log on to foxnews. >> bret: we are starting our panel early tonight with the center seat segment featuring republican presidential candidate herman cain. steve hayes, a.b. stoddard and charles krauthammer. thank you for being here. >> pleasure to be here. >> bret: you've been dealing with the allegation and you talked a lot about them in various interviews. one of the accusers wants to tell her story but is barred by confidentiality agreement. will you call for the national restaurant association to waive details to speak freely? >> i can't answer that because there are legal implicatio

they haven't received e-mails of holder's staff and it appears the leading sacrificial lamb is lanny brewerd information in this case, holder faces a much tougher grilling next month in the house. >> bret: we'll continue to follow it. thank you. investigators found remains of u.s. war dead were not always handled properly at dover air force base in delaware. the site that receives the bodies and repairs them for burial at the u.s. military. there were whistle blower reports of lost body parts and other problems. the former mortuary commander and other senior officials were disciplined but not fired. federal appeals court in washington upheld president obama's healthcare law as constitutional. the panel dismissed a lawsuit by a christian legal group saying it was violation of religious freedom. decision whether to take up appeals over the healthcare law is expected soon. there is a bit of a shuffle in terms of job descriptions going on at the white house tonight. president obama chief of staff is handing off many of his duty. the big story is why? here is chief white house correspondent ed h

. >> lanny brewer statement said he told the attorney general in january or february so that doesn'twe just got a massive con that diction here. >> the attorney general there were no chargeable offenses. the bottom line is atf and doj wanted a big case. a lot of gups and many feel they waited too long. back to you. >> we will continue to dig. no grapevine to make room for herman cain in the center seat segment. fox all-stars ask questions and i'll relay yours when we come back. in the break, log on to foxnews.com/sronline to submit question ideas. stay here. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. executor of efficiency. you can spot an amateur from a mile away... while going shoeless and metal-free in seconds. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choo any car in the aisle...and go. you can even take a full-se or above, and still pay the mid-size price. now this...will work. [ ale announcer ] just like you, business pro. just like you. go national. go like a o. the other office devices? they don't get me. they're all like, "hey, brother, doesn't it bother y

lanny brewer said that while he learned of these controversial gun walking tactics, he did not speakat the time and even after atf whistleblowers went public in fast and furious and were accused of lying he still did not speak up. >> i regret that in april of 2010 that i did not draw the connection between wide receiver and fast and furious. and moreover, i regret that even in earlier this you're that i didn't draw that connection. >> now, some in congress with questioning that explanation. why? because breuer learned about wide receiver at the same time as fast and furious, which was run by the same agents and the same u.s. attorney's office. now, in that case, more than 2,000 guns were sold and, of course, a border agent was killed. a week from today, shepard, the attorney general will be on the hot seat answering questions from senate judiciary. back to you. >> shepard: william la jeunesse reporting live from los angeles. china's space program took another giant leap forward today. engineers launched an unmanned space craft that they say will play a key role in their building effo

assistant attorney lanny brewer says he regrets not alerting others within the department.ars before a senate subcommittee later today. >>> the justice department has issues with south carolina. it says the state's new immigration is unconstitutional and preempts federal law. it says the south carolina law could lead to authorized visitors and immigrants being harassed or detained and say they it's time for the feds to do their jobs. >>> warmer weather is expected in the northeast after a rare october snowstorm caught many by surprise. nearly 2 million people in at least five states remain in the dark this morning. it could be friday before their power is back on. the storm dumped more than two feet of snow in some areas. one new jersey mayor even postponed trick-or-treating. >> if you look at our streets, we really don't have one full street that's passable. it's just a disaster area throughout if community. >> of course, power lines are still down. so it's dangerous. that's why they canceled halloween. you know the storm is blamed for 13 deaths. >>> some of the big banks

. >> assistant attorney general lanny brewer telling congress today he should have taken more aggressivegovernment's repeated use. controversial gunwalking tactics. but will him taking the blame give more senior officials like eric holder off the hook? homeland security editor rob joins us. nice to see you. >> thank you. >> were members of congress particularly impressed with lanny's admission? >> they seemed impressed by the admission that they appreciated it. i don't think it will help the justice department any further than that, though. >> what did he know and when did he know it? >> what he knew was about a previous operation called wide receiver in 2007. >> gunwalking, as well? >> counter gun running but there was alleged gunwalking. the idea of guns flowing into mexico with the atf knowing about it but not doing anything. he found out about it last year as fast and furious was actually happening. and he actually told his staff to talk to the atf, say that these tactics were problematic and unacceptable. >> problematic and unacceptable, that's not like saying don't do it. it's like

>> lanny brewer would not have approved these requests. one of the deputies. the report directly to him. given the volume of these things, it probably does not exist. the assistant attorney general is required if there is a roving wiretaps. >> wouldn't they be in a position once they saw the department of justice was on the line to have said, the department of justice did know about this program. we have approved a significant series of wiretap applications. >> i have not seen them. i don't have any information that talked about the tactics that made this such a bone of contention and would have raised the legitimate concern of congress as well as those in the justice department. the tactics of gun-walking or contained in those applications. i have not seen them. >> your time is up. the utah attorney general, a -- there was an op- ed. i guess that it be put in the record. it was concluded that it would be tragic that fast and furious -- the cartel is our enemy, not atf or the department of justice. we do provide the men and women fighting this battle with the

that official, lanny brewer, acknowledged yesterday that he learned about the gun walking at least 18ontroversial techniques were not being used in other of their federal investigations. breuer said in a statement yesterday he now regrets not alerting others within the department of justice to those controversial tactics when they first came to his attention. when new gun walking allegations arose earlier this year, bruer said he did not draw a connection to the unacceptable tactics of atf agents years earlier. last night, senator chuck grassley of iowa said, quote, despite their denials of gun walking, it appears that senior justice department officials clearly knew that gun walking had happened previously and ignored the red flags that it was happening again in a newer case called fast and furious. breuer, that high ranking justice official is scheduled to testified before a senate southbound committee today and will likely be asked about all of this. >> it's chris. how did the material come to life? >> the justice department turned over about 650 pages the of documents due to a con

>> he is the assistant attorney general for the criminal division. >> why would lanny brewer knowing as he did back in july, april 2010 about "operation fast and furious," allow a letter that went out on the department stationery february 4, 2011 why would he let a letter that was false represent the position of the department of justice? >> first off the briefing, the a.g. brief was about wide receiver. that wasn't about fast fast imperious. >> by the way do you know the differences between wide receiver and "fast and furious"? >> do i know -- they are different operations. >> right so do you know the factual differences between wide receiver in "fast and furious"? >> well there are a number of differences both in scope, both in terms of kind. the bush administration was the one that started wide receiver and the obama administration is with fast imperious. >> are you winging this or do you actually no? >> i know this. >> to know the wide receiver was done in conjunction with the government of mexico and the intention, the plan was to follow the weapons and neither was there the int

next they blame the assistant attorney general lanny brewer for not stopping "operation fast & furiouslping argument cartels. finally they blame all those at atf, washington and the department of justice who knew and approved this operation, including attorney general eric holder. >> i say to him, you could have been a man and at least come to the family, the mother and father of brian terry and give your condolences. you had a chance to do that when you were in washington. you didn't do that. you acted like it was going to foe away and it didn't. >> holder knew about it, the president knew about it. i think anybody should be prosecuted for the innocent people that were murdered in mexico. >> reporter: the family was convinced there were enough bright people at atf and doj who knew about this and could have or should have stopped it and their son would be alive today if they had don't right thing. the family is going to file a wrongful death claim against the government and i'll i'm told it will be big. megyn: now to the penn state child aintiews scandal. we are learning a key anything

. >> reporter: attorney general eric holder and chief deputy lanny brewer claimed ignorance about then't buy it. >> i know they're lying. they're just nothing but liars. >> reporter: tuesday lawmakers asked if holder wanted to apologized. he declined. saying only -- >> i certainly receipt what what happened. >> if he lost his son he would think different. >> reporter: holder said since then he is sorry and while the weapons are linked to "fast and furious", holder claims the operation did not directly lead to the agent's death. >> i disagree with that i think they are. brand new ak-47's they were carrying. >> if they never let these guns walk maybe brian wouldn't be out in that desert. >> reporter: so some officials brian was collateral damage. to his parents, he was everything. >> i can't sleep thinking about him. i love him very much. >> reporter: i can tell you, jon, that the family is planning shortly to file a claim and eventually a lawsuit against the federal government for wrongful death. when they do, it is going to be big. there is a fund-raiser this weekend for the family to

assistant attorney lanny brewer admitted to a senate panel he made a mistake.ned about the controversial tactic during a previous operation known as wide receiver. >> now i wish that at that time that i said clearly to the deputy attorney general and the attorney general that in this case, wide receiver, we had determined that in 2006, in 2007, gun also walked. i did not do that and i regret not doing that. >> bruerer failed to recognize that the same tactics used four years earlier were being used again in fast and furious. >>> whatever your beliefs may be about guns, i want you to imagine your mom, maybe even you or your sister is walking in a public park but she is suddenly attacked, her cloths are torn off, a repeat offender attempting to rape her. that is what police say happened in spartanburg, south carolina, which prompted their frustrated sheriff to say this at a news conference on monday. >> i'm really aggravated. got a lady on sunday -- afternoon, guys, sunday, walking her dog and this animal comes up and attacks her. and i want you to go for the maa

bill: his main deputy, lanny brewer, says he is the one who is responsible, and he says he's responsiblet inform eric holder of the full operation. >> well, the buck stops with eric holder. the bottom line is it's no different than my job, the buck stops with me, and he is accountable and responsible for everyone that works for him, every program that comes out of his office. he's the top law enforcement officer of our country. bill: he's going to face his own questions when he testifies later this week on the hill. you heard the story that i announced here, introducing you this morning. >> yes. bill: your weeks -- your reaction, what have you heard from arizona on that? >> i've not heard anything from arizona at this point in time. i'm anxious to get back and get on the phone and call them. it was breaking news on fox when i heard about it. bill: that is true. now i want to talk to you about immigration because you're at the forefront on this, arizona led, alabama followed, south carolina followed and the federal government is challenging the laws in all these states just like it is in

and assistant attorney general lanny brewer now the first high ranking official to admit he knew that u.s. agents were letting thousands of guns into the hands of mexican drug cartels. brewer says he regrets not speaking up sooner. >> i cannot be more clear that knowing now if i'd known then what i know now, i would have told the deputy and attorney general. >> so what did brewer's boss, attorney general eric holder know about fast & furious? he'll be questioned by the senate judiciary committee next wednesday. >> warsaw international airport expected to reopen today following yesterday's emergency landing of a polish airline flight. the plane was forced to land its belly after its landing gear would not open. emergency crews were standing by to help passengers evacuate and firefighters were on hand to hose down the plane. the flight originated in newark, new jersey, carrying 231 people. luckily, no one was hurt. and those are your headlines today. >> wow, and there's a lot going on internationally and, of course, at home, it's all about the g.o.p. and the race to become the nominee.

. >> peter, talk about this very interesting quote from assistant attorney general lanny brewer.ad to say. >> i find this incredible. i think most americans would. if any good can come of this horrific, terrible tragedy, it should be that america has a serious and real conversation about our gun laws today. the tragic truth is that if those criminals who killed agent terry had not gotten the guns from this one source, they would have gotten the guns from another source. so we have the assistant attorney general in charge of the criminal division of the united states saying well, if he hadn't been killed with this gun that the federal government provided, then he would have been killed by another gun. and that we should have a serious conversation about the gun laws in this country. why don't we have a serious conversation about fast & furious? what the attorney general knew, when he knew it. we know what mr. brewer says that he knew and why he didn't tell the attorney general but to say let's talk about the gun laws when we're giving guns. >> right. >> to criminals! >> you look f

just last week, assistant attorney general lanny brewer admitted in this room that the department's letters to me in february was absolutely false. but it gets worse. he admitted he knew all along it was false. he could not recall whether he helped edit it,hour he knew it was false because he was aware of previous gun walking operations called wide receiver. yet, he remained silent for nine months. he was aware that congress had been misled. much has been said recently about guns being walked in operation wide receiver. during the bush era. it doesn't matter for me when it happened. we need answers. bush era prosecutors refused to bring the case, however under mr. brewer's leadership, headquarters revived it, despite the gun walking issues. it was mr. brewer's responsibility to communicate that gun walking was unacceptable and to institute oversight and safeguards to ensure that it did not happen again. he did not do that. mr. brewer admitted before this committee last week that one of his deputies enform him of gun walking in wide receiver april 2010 and he also admitted that the same depu

last week assistant attorney general lanny brewer admitted the department letters were absolutely false but it gets worse. mr. brewer also admitted he knew all along it was false. he could not recall whether he helped edit it but he knew it was false because he was aware of previous operations called wide receiver. yet he remained silent for nine months. he was aware congress had been misled. he made no effort to correct the department's the official denial. much has been said about guns being walked in operation wide receiver during the bush era. doesn't matter to me when it happened. we need answers. . here prosecutors refused to bring the case. under mr. brewer's leadership headquarters revised it. despite the gun walking issues. it was mr. brewer's responsibility to clearly communicate that gun walking was unacceptable and tends to do oversight and safeguard to shore it did not happen again. he did not do that. mr. brewer admitted before this committee last week that one of his deputies informed him of gun walking and wide receiver april of 2010. he also admitted the same deputy app