' quote is important. >> yeah, lanny davis repeats an anecdote that i have heard as well and many people have heard. when they did the original review of afghanistan president. vice president biden asked how much money are we spending in afghanistan? how much money are we spending in pakistan? we are spending billions upon billions more in afghanistan. pakistan has a nuclear weapons and that's where the real threat is. he says there's something wrong with this picture. and vice president biden has been pressing for a more minimalist approach in afghanistan. he lost out in the review, but i think his views are very much alive. > obama's problem is this, he fired general mccrystal and now he has the most famous general in america in charge of afghanistan. he can't not give patraeus what he wants. if he says general patraeus, we have to move out, and he says i'm not losing this war. so obama has get any help from brojinsky, who is the former national security director? >> the extremely famous and renowned foreign policy. >> and therefore, it's a self- defeating proposition. >> i agre