now, can you can fault ed lansdale.maybe for for lack of political skills, interpersonal skills, bureaucratic skills, maybe. but but i, i would argue and let me say in the background, everything i'm talking about, about this, we did it a second time only worse in afghanistan? yes. how many years were we in afghanistan? 20 years? yes. and we and we never had a course program. i mean, i can give you a personal gossip on that kind of stuff. but i mean, it's just like what my? oh. kirby and his son, miles, my nephew. marine two tours in afghanistan. he taught himself pashtu. he wrote he wrote book. it's a book about a in afghanistan he consciously did not go into office training because he wanted to be a grunt, because that's what a man does anyway, he writes in this, you know his story about their how the little kids in the town would come up to him because he could speak their language. the sergeants, the other guys, the lieutenants, they had no clue what these people were like or what they were thinking. and so they went

i want to bring in joe lansdale, the co-founder of palantir. good morning to you.aswamy on with anthony scaramucci, we talked immigration. we just had a debate about taxes. i'm curious from your perspective in terms of sort of number one, two, three on the economic piece of this what you think is going to happen. what you would prioritize but what what you think is going to become the priority and what we're actually going to see. >> good morning, andrew. it was an exciting week. you know, i think number one i think -- i think elon said it best this week, he said america's a team is usually busy building companies in the private sector but every once in awhile reforming government becomes important enough that they get engaged there. i think we're seeing a lot of top talent going in to reform government. what that means is there is a huge amount of cut, a huge amount of fix, pretty much every regulatory agency has nonsense going on, tons of grift, tons of waste, tongs of things that need to be taken care of. last administration, they weren't ready, they didn't know

edward lansdale. the vietnam tragedy was a finalist for the pulitzer prize in biography. max is a senior fellow for the national security studies at the council on foreign relations and the former op ed editor of the wall street journal. carlos lozada is an opinion columnist at the new york times and winner of the pulitzer prize for criticism. he is the author of what were we thinking an intellectual history of trump era and, most recently, the washington book how to read politicians and politics. he's co-host of the weekly podcast matter of opinion and a visiting professor of public discourse at the university of notre dame. i should note both our authors immigrants who came to the as children, max from russia and carlos from and both have been honored as great immigrants by the carnegie corporation of new york. i also have fess up that i have been a fan of carlos's since he was born and that. 1974 we immigrated together to the u.s. because, you guessed it, he's my brother. and i want to give a quick shout out to the proud mama in the front row that. your mom. let's give