> it's interesting to me that -- i mean, it speaks in some ways to the first of the original "the lantic" editors and breadth of vision. they were abolitionists brut there are a number of pieces where they thought to capture this legislature. in particular, we published two out of the seven he wrote for the magazine, which were from the perspective of a southern, where he's talking about the challenges the south are having to wrestle with and breakdown of authority and gives credit to the federal union troops coming in and re-establishing -- >> and also one of his periods of installment of "the l atlantic," it was a bit radical to do that but he's writing saying, you don't understand what it's like in the south. if you northerner had been in our shoes, you would have fought, too, and here's why. and sort of explains the psychology of the south and the run up to the war. >> the publication were fairly controversial among editorial staff at "the lantic"? >> there was one remark somewhere, which i think we reference in the introduction, that it actually -- his pieces were so convincing they