there is not much said about laos until 71. the first wave of refugees will come here from vietnam who sided with the u.s. and the award. they talk a lot about the war. they were followed by economic refugees. the refugees who came from laos, they were the cia guerrilla troops primarily in the beginning and later the second wave is economic. or what you find is a lot of the people, the first way they knew about the war, and a second wave of refugees, they didn't know much about the war. they didn't talk about this brain and the bombing. there were mostly coming from the mekong river areas. and so, we don't get the discussion about the bombing and this brain. so these are the differences we see. these are the perilously found in various areas. these could be gasoline barrels. they could also be agent orange barrels. we don't know for sure. but they were used for a collection of water. this was taken in 2014. 2015. now, war has brought many, many problems in the postwar era and one of the most important things for me that i quest

sister in lawy did not know her husband had been in laos until six months before he died. his children did not know either. at that point, he was suffering from health timers -- from he could notand remember much. i had the task with my husband, who was still alive at that time, to explain to them what happened and why they did not know. he had only confided in my husband and i. and it was a very painful, painful events for him. ms. hammond: which brings up the point if you were a veteran who had boots on the ground, you automatically qualify for any conditions that the v.a. acknowledges. if you were in thailand or laos, it is a much harder -- you have to prove exposure. it is not the presumption of exposure that it was in vietnam. you have to prove you were in an area that was sprayed. so that i mentioned that i have not heard from them -- but there are many of these air america and those who went into vietnam -- i mean, went into laos that may have markets is, that may or some of these conditions, veterans in the vietnam era, who if they were just for one hour, they coul